Should Paedophiles be sentenced to death?

[!Jazzy!]

I think ALL pedefiles should be sentenced to death.
They are cruel, and f*** up small childrens lives.

[Deimos]

I think ALL pedefiles should be sentenced to death.
They are cruel, and f*** up small childrens lives.

So are some parents/family members.
So are fellow students.

Put them to death?

[Shane]

It's spelt "Paedophiles".

[God.]

Heavy editing ftw.

[!Jazzy!]

Yeh well, you guys are like four years older than me, who cares if its spelt wrong... :D
i actually thouht about it a bit before i posted it and i still posted it wrong, damn!

[!Jazzy!]

Deimos,
I know of some people who have ended up with mental illnesses or even killed themselves because they have been sexually abuse by paedophiles.
Is this what you want? why should they be spared when the victom comitts suicide or ends up homeless or a paedophile themselves?

[Nintendus]

So are some parents/family members.
So are fellow students.

Put them to death?
Exactly, people who bully people to the edge. Should they be sentenced to death?

It's terrible, but it is not as if they killed the person themself.

[God.]

Yeh well, you guys are like four years older than me, who cares if its spelt wrong... :D
i actually thouht about it a bit before i posted it and i still posted it wrong, damn!

Lol, try seven. (or eight, depending on when your birthday is.)

[Kerry]

Yup I totally agree with Demios and Nintendus here plus some people is wrongly accused so I say no.

[Deimos]

Pedophile is also acceptable.

At least you tried :(

Sorta >.>

[mandude]

Deimos,
I know of some people who have ended up with mental illnesses or even killed themselves because they have been sexually abuse by paedophiles.
Is this what you want? why should they be spared when the victom comitts suicide or ends up homeless or a paedophile themselves?The mental illnesses and suicides would have been a result of their own insecurity. I don't know anyone who would think less of a person for being raped, so its their own fault if they kill themselves. Not the paedophile's.

[Deimos]

Deimos,
I know of some people who have ended up with mental illnesses or even killed themselves because they have been sexually abuse by paedophiles.
Is this what you want? why should they be spared when the victom comitts suicide or ends up homeless or a paedophile themselves?


Prove that their mental illness and subsequent suicide is a direct result of their molestation and not affected by any other factors for me :)

[Gardens]

Well, being sentenced to death is a really harsh punishment. Paedophiles are screwed up in the head. Most of them if not all had a messed up life. I had an experience with one....but the person came from a real messed up family. It's sort of the only way they know. It's a psychological thing. Why should they be killed for something that they really can't help? I do a lot of reasearch on this kind of stuff, and they really can't help but look at younger due to a lack of growth mentally, and emotionally. Take the person I dealt with. I was great friends with them, and then one day, well...yeah...That person's life was..well...hellish. But I realized that it's something that can't be helped. But sentenced to death? Surely not. And thats coming from someone who has dealt with a paedophile before.

[xMissIzzyx]

I kinda have different views on it, one of my closest friends was abused by her father 4 years ago and she's had councilling since.. she doesn't get depressed it much any more but it really did fuck her up for a long time, and after it happened she became regularly sexually active [at age 11] with loads of other guys because it was the only way she thought they'd accept her, she thought if she put out for them they'd love her, as that was what her father taught her.
I've met this man once, and I think he's honestly the most dispicable [sp?] human being I've met, excusing my stepfather [not joking]. luckily she's now in a loving relationship and has been for the last year and she seems to be doin okay for herself, but her mental health will never be what it could. I don't think paedophiles should be given forgiveness or justice for what they do or have done or whatever but I think it should be taken as one of the most serious forms of crime cos tbh, it's immoral, disgusting and it ruins people's lives.
Just my opinion.

[Mikhael]

i think males should have their penises cut off. and females should be cemented up :naughty:

[Kerry]

That would be a very painful punishment :P not that they don't deserve it mind lol :D.

[!Jazzy!]

Prove that their mental illness and subsequent suicide is a direct result of their molestation and not affected by any other factors for me :)

Someone I knew committed suicide because they were malested by two men.
they get a mental illness from the trauma and that lead to suicide...
so how can you guys say that its not the paedophiles fault? if they didnt malester that person in the first place, they would have been fine!!

[Deimos]

Someone I knew committed suicide because they were malested by two men.
they get a mental illness from the trauma and that lead to suicide...
so how can you guys say that its not the paedophiles fault? if they didnt malester that person in the first place, they would have been fine!!


Prove to me, that they would have been fine.
Medically show, that there is absolutely no chance it could have occured if the molestation had not happened.

If you cannot, then you cannot justly apply the death penalty.

[!Jazzy!]

They were completely fine before that incident.
They were molested and they got a mental illness.
they thought they were socially unexcepted, and killed themself.
why is this not proof enough?
i know that this is why this person killed themself.

but i will try to find an artical or something for you anyway.

[!Jazzy!]

Here, i found some....

i posted in a seperate post accidently...


see next post...

[!Jazzy!]

Here is a piece of info.

What Psychological Factors Contribute to Mental Illness?
Psychological factors that may contribute to mental illness include:

Severe psychological trauma suffered as a child, such as emotional, physical or sexual abuse
An important early loss, such as the loss of a parent
Neglect
Poor ability to relate to othersDepression and Bipolar Disorder

Studies have consistently shown that having depression or bipolar disorder (mood disorders) increases your risk for suicide significantly. In fact, it's estimated that people with mood disorders are 12 to 20 times more likely to commit suicide than people without a mood disorder.

Mood disorders, especially in the depressive phase, are the most commonly diagnosed mental illness in suicide deaths. People with bipolar disorder have the highest risk, especially when they are in mixed episodes (simultaneous presence of ups and downs).

Suicides associated with major depressive disorder tend to occur early in the course of the illness, especially in younger people. Depressive and bipolar disorders both tend to be highly comorbid (http://www.stopasuicide.org/glossary.html#Comorbidity) with other disorders, such as anxiety, panic attacks, alcohol use, substance use and insomnia, and each of these is considered to be a risk factor for suicidal behaviors.


Does this prove my theory?

[tf_arl_90]

I voted no because I'm against the death penalty entirely.

[Leon]

Should they get the death penalty? No
It's way too harsh, you don't even get the death penalty for murder, and that's surely the worst crim commitable.
Mikhael's idea is the best! :) Just chop em off!

[Innamorata]

Sounds like a fun job!

[giddish]

i think males should have their penises cut off. and females should be cemented up :naughty:
That'd probably work.
Eww..

[tf_arl_90]

Penises? http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif

lol. Castration for convicted sex offenders..hm..I don't know exactly how effective it is, but I know it has a lot of support. Reduces hormone levels, risk of pregnancy, etc. It makes sense I guess.

[Deimos]

Here is a piece of info.

What Psychological Factors Contribute to Mental Illness?
Psychological factors that may contribute to mental illness include:
Severe psychological trauma suffered as a child, such as emotional, physical or sexual abuse
An important early loss, such as the loss of a parent
Neglect
Poor ability to relate to othersDepression and Bipolar Disorder

Studies have consistently shown that having depression or bipolar disorder (mood disorders) increases your risk for suicide significantly. In fact, it's estimated that people with mood disorders are 12 to 20 times more likely to commit suicide than people without a mood disorder.

Mood disorders, especially in the depressive phase, are the most commonly diagnosed mental illness in suicide deaths. People with bipolar disorder have the highest risk, especially when they are in mixed episodes (simultaneous presence of ups and downs).

Suicides associated with major depressive disorder tend to occur early in the course of the illness, especially in younger people. Depressive and bipolar disorders both tend to be highly comorbid (http://www.stopasuicide.org/glossary.html#Comorbidity) with other disorders, such as anxiety, panic attacks, alcohol use, substance use and insomnia, and each of these is considered to be a risk factor for suicidal behaviors.


Does this prove my theory?


Now prove to me that they didn't suicide because of their inability to relate to others, prove they weren't being bullied, prove they would have been perfectly happy if they did not have the memories of molestation.

[Eyesofangel313]

It's not paedophiles it's pedophiles. Go to dictionary.com and look sheesh.

[Deimos]

Pedophilia, paedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences) ) is the paraphilia (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Paraphilia) of being sexually attracted (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Sexual_attraction) primarily or exclusively to prepubescent or peripubescent (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Puberty) children (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Child). A person with this attraction is called a pedophile or paedophile.


Lrn2read

[xXxEmo_DaisyxXx]

i think they should be sentenced to death because they rape,torture and do other undescribable things so children...plus as my dad works as a prison officer/head chef ordering every thing at Feltum prison (feltum blues)...he sometimes tells me what they say to each other i.e what they done to the children they hurt

[Eyesofangel313]

Pedophilia, paedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences) ) is the paraphilia (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Paraphilia) of being sexually attracted (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Sexual_attraction) primarily or exclusively to prepubescent or peripubescent (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Puberty) children (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Child). A person with this attraction is called a pedophile or paedophile.


Lrn2read

It's either or jerk. I know how to read. Get back to topic and don't talk to me again. Thanks.

[caramelbrownie]

Many describe the term death as no longer breathing, a heart stopped, and six feet below the ground. However, I like to think that death can be taken to a whole new level, a different way to interpret its meaning. Death, to me, is the crushing of one's life and soul. When pedophiles act upon their desires, they often leave their victims torn and strayed from life's wonders, which is death of a soul, personality, and person.

They should be sentenced to death. They ruin lives. They leave their victims in emotional pain, something that will affect them for all their life. They've emotionally killed their victims.

[Deimos]

It's not paedophiles it's pedophiles. Go to dictionary.com and look sheesh.

It's not paedophiles it's pedophiles. Go to dictionary.com and look sheesh.



It's either or jerk. I know how to read. Get back to topic and don't talk to me again. Thanks.


Don't make absolute claims without prior knowledge of their truth.

[Eyesofangel313]

Are you retarted it's spelt both ways. I think someone need's to go back to school.

[Innamorata]

I think you need to go back to school.

[tf_arl_90]

I wasn't aware we were debating spelling http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif

[Innamorata]

I'm not generally bothered, but I am when someone's a big hypocrite and lies about something.


I wasn't aware we were debating spelling http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif)

[Deimos]

Are you retarted it's spelt both ways. I think someone need's to go back to school.
Okok, firstly, it's spelt Retarded, but whatever.


Firstly, YOU are the person that stated that it was ONLY spelt 'Pedophile' when you told us it was NOT spelt Paedophile.

NOT you see, is an ABSOLUTE, meaning you were NOT saying it can be spelt either way, you were explicitly stating it could ONLY be spelt one way.

I even quoted what you said and bolded it for you.


Now, if you refute the above, you ARE an idiot, if you accept the above and move on, I just have no respect for you.

Note that the two are separate and distinct and both can NOT occur at the same time.

[Gardens]

I just don't think another human has the right to take away another's life...no matter what...they'll learn eventually. Just throw em in jail to keep them off the streets and you're good. Playing god is just stupid. basically the death penalty is an approved murder.

[Eyesofangel313]

Deimos us Americans don't spell it like that think about it.


Innamorata- Mind your business.

[Innamorata]

Mind your own business. A banning is coming.

[Deimos]

Deimos us Americans don't spell it like that think about it.


Innamorata- Mind your business.


Don't particularly care how you spell it, when you come to a (what I've seen) pre-dominantly english forum, you do not try to impose your own spelling on others, or insit that yours is the only correct version.

Anyway, I'm done, enjoy your lfie.

[Gardens]

Who the hell cares how to spell it?? Either way is fine....I'm in america, and I spelled it the way Deimos did....I spell it both ways, but I'm not a heckler about how to spell. And, Jazzy, paedophiles are very similar and different from child molesters. You said that paedophiles f*** up small childrens lives...Thats a child molester. Paedophiles are generally what people classify those over 18 who have interests in minors...It doesnt always end in fu**ed up people. Some of them move on, and don't let it interfere with their lives. And also, it's a bit different to a person if it's their own family member....like a dad or step dad or mother....

either way, taking the life of another human is pretty extreme...

[Crash]

Someone said earlier that abuse victims often become abusers themselves, so are you saying they should die too? Many paedophiles were abused themselves, and however sick, twisted and awful they are, they don't deserve to die. Many paedophiles recover and become normal people again. Just a point.

[Gardens]

Someone said earlier that abuse victims often become abusers themselves, so are you saying they should die too? Many paedophiles were abused themselves, and however sick, twisted and awful they are, they don't deserve to die. Many paedophiles recover and become normal people again. Just a point.

soo true.

[tf_arl_90]

And, Jazzy, paedophiles are very similar and different from child molesters. You said that paedophiles f*** up small childrens lives...Thats a child molester. Paedophiles are generally what people classify those over 18 who have interests in minors...

This is a good point. A paedophile is a person who is attracted to children. A child molester is a person who has molested a child. If a person happens to be attracted to children, it doesn't mean they are definitely going to illegally act on this.

[Leon]

Penises? http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/arl_90/shocked.gif)

lol. Castration for convicted sex offenders..hm..I don't know exactly how effective it is, but I know it has a lot of support.Chopping them off would kind of prevent the whole 'sex' part of it. I think that's quite effective!

[tf_arl_90]

Chopping them off would kind of prevent the whole 'sex' part of it. I think that's quite effective!
Can a male function without a penis? He's gotta pee, right? I don't really know of any alternative ways to er, get the job done.

I was referring to the effectiveness of just removing the testes (and to be fair, ovaries for females). I would assume it would be effective in reducing hormone levels, but I don't have any evidence to back that up.

[Gardens]

Can a male function without a penis? He's gotta pee, right? I don't really know of any alternative ways to er, get the job done.

I was referring to the effectiveness of just removing the testes (and to be fair, ovaries for females). I would assume it would be effective in reducing hormone levels, but I don't have any evidence to back that up.

that does make sense....we are technically animals, and our main function is to produce...girls get the urge (not only cuz of someone hot) but because its instinct....and guys naturally have to release...you know...cuz then it might start to pain them a bit. So getting rid of reproductive organs might shut down the hormones.

[Deimos]

Not to mention it is completely possible to derive a satisfaction from certain things that could be done to a child that do not require the use of the genitalia.

More of a mental satisfaction for the person, rather than physical.

[fraggled]

Here is a piece of info.

What Psychological Factors Contribute to Mental Illness?
Psychological factors that may contribute to mental illness include:
Severe psychological trauma suffered as a child, such as emotional, physical or sexual abuse
An important early loss, such as the loss of a parent
Neglect
Poor ability to relate to othersDepression and Bipolar Disorder

Studies have consistently shown that having depression or bipolar disorder (mood disorders) increases your risk for suicide significantly. In fact, it's estimated that people with mood disorders are 12 to 20 times more likely to commit suicide than people without a mood disorder.

Mood disorders, especially in the depressive phase, are the most commonly diagnosed mental illness in suicide deaths. People with bipolar disorder have the highest risk, especially when they are in mixed episodes (simultaneous presence of ups and downs).

Suicides associated with major depressive disorder tend to occur early in the course of the illness, especially in younger people. Depressive and bipolar disorders both tend to be highly comorbid (http://www.stopasuicide.org/glossary.html#Comorbidity) with other disorders, such as anxiety, panic attacks, alcohol use, substance use and insomnia, and each of these is considered to be a risk factor for suicidal behaviors.


Does this prove my theory?
Now, since i hope this is a real debate, I am going to argue for real, this is not an attack, but rather another opinion.

No, it doesn't prove your theory, not only is that a short, broad and un-explanatory article but it has no supporting evidence to act on its behalf, so that makes it not-so-supporting of your theory, back to hypotheses that theory goes.

Do you want to provide statistics to your "theory", what you are coming up with is a small case of people, in actuality most children who are molested don't remember till way later in life, notice the key word children, not teenagers or adults, and its usually an odd event that triggers that memory, and most of the time they will blow it off assuming that it wasn't so true because they didn't remember it. There are cases of on-going (that means constantly over an extended period of time) where kids do have extreme psychological disorders, but you seem to be watching to much tv where they focus on the worst cases.

While I don't agree that pedophiles shouldn't go free I do believe that ANYONE can be rehabilitated, should we put you to death because you made false an inaccurate statistical statements? Supported evidential theories with false positives and can't explain in full where you are coming up with these assumptions.

Let me go into further detail for you, most people who have been molested go through "post traumatic syndrome". The main reason that article can be labeled as false is because most articles will go into express detail and not broad detail, not only did that article label itself as about only Bi-Polar disorder but it described a broad aspect of social and psychological disorders, instead of backing itself up like a proper study and article it broadly mentioned "Mood Disorders" in the first descriptive paragraph, if you were talking about only "Bi-Polar" disorder, why would you generalize your paragraph?

"Suicides associated with major depressive disorder tend to occur early in the course of the illness", is that so? I always though depression was a progressive disorder. The fact of the matter is, most people who are depressed often don't notice it because its temporary depression caused by a situation. They should have also mentioned they (the "suicides") commonly occur in untreated incidents. This doesn't excuse the treated incidents but definably knocks down your "theory".

Humans are complicated beings and the fact of the matter is, in the worst cases there were also other factors that triggered these extreme psychological disorders. Ongoing incidents people often don't look into and ask about. They go based off the current situation instead of looking at a situation in its entirety and doing a proper diagnosis, which is why most cases are often mis-diagnosed.

IMHO they should not be put to death because most of them can be rehabilitated, while there are a certain few that can't be, there are other methods then killing them to get rid of them. People go through extremes and assume they are god and think its alright to kill people, it makes you hypocritical to say, you can't kill people and then kill people for committing a crime. What makes you in the right to assume someone should live or die? Are you god? Are you the super ninja supreme being? The higher being? Are you our answer to god? Probably not, but what makes you so better? The fact that you didn't molest someone doesn't necessitate you being better, I am sure you do plenty of stupid things that would equal to and or above (over time) what they did that one time.

[fraggled]

Who the hell cares how to spell it?? Either way is fine....I'm in america, and I spelled it the way Deimos did....I spell it both ways, but I'm not a heckler about how to spell. And, Jazzy, paedophiles are very similar and different from child molesters. You said that paedophiles f*** up small childrens lives...Thats a child molester. Paedophiles are generally what people classify those over 18 who have interests in minors...It doesnt always end in fu**ed up people. Some of them move on, and don't let it interfere with their lives. And also, it's a bit different to a person if it's their own family member....like a dad or step dad or mother....

either way, taking the life of another human is pretty extreme...

A pedophile can be an adolescent. They don't need to be necessarily "over 18" they just need to be attracted to children who have yet to go through puberty. This means if a 13 year old likes kids who are 5 he can be considered a pedophile if he constantly molests these children, you are confusing a disorder / classification with an action. Child molestation is a much less broad term for pedophile it goes into specifics where as pedophilia is a rather broad definition that derives from a Greek word, as well it can be misconstrued into several meanings. Some states classify pedophilia as a subclass of Child Molestation, however, some states only have classed child molestation.

Pedophilia (American English) or pædophilia/paedophilia (British English), from the Greek παιδοφιλια (paidophilia) < παις (pais) "boy, child" and φιλια (philia) "friendship", (ICD-10 F65.4)

[Gardens]

well sure, a peadophile can be under 18, as you stated. It's more commonly viewed as those over 18 who take interest in 11 year olds (for example).

But still, either way, the question was: should pedophiles be sentenced to death?
No one, not one single person on this earth has the right to take another's life. They are not God. All execution is, is murder that the government makes legal to off someone who has done "horribly wrong". Though, this is only my opinion, and the government wont change their ways about how they deal with criminals...at least not anytime soon.



A pedophile can be an adolescent. They don't need to be necessarily "over 18" they just need to be attracted to children who have yet to go through puberty. This means if a 13 year old likes kids who are 5 he can be considered a pedophile if he constantly molests these children, you are confusing a disorder / classification with an action. Child molestation is a much less broad term for pedophile it goes into specifics where as pedophilia is a rather broad definition that derives from a Greek word, as well it can be misconstrued into several meanings. Some states classify pedophilia as a subclass of Child Molestation, however, some states only have classed child molestation.

Pedophilia (American English) or pædophilia/paedophilia (British English), from the Greek παιδοφιλια (paidophilia) < παις (pais) "boy, child" and φιλια (philia) "friendship", (ICD-10 F65.4)

[fraggled]

I completly agree with you to a sense, I think over time the US will correct its wrong doings but we have to get over our time of trying to be tough guys. Its like the time old theory that as humans grow older they will grow wiser, and with wising up comes some rather blissful ways.

[Leon]

This isn't just about the US by the way.
This thread was started by an Australian, with several posters from various countries.

[fraggled]

I was relating to the replier of my post rather then the post as a whole, sorry.

[Deimos]

To kill someone for committing murder is a punishment incomparably worse than the crime itself. Murder by legal sentence is imeasurably more terrible than murder by brigands.

[Gardens]

I completly agree with you to a sense, I think over time the US will correct its wrong doings but we have to get over our time of trying to be tough guys. Its like the time old theory that as humans grow older they will grow wiser, and with wising up comes some rather blissful ways.

very very true...

[sweet8060]

Pedofiles have a mental illness. Yes I believe they should be senteced to life in a mental hospital for it or in prison for it but not death.

[Gardens]

really? For life? What if they spent just a good few months getting well, and were perfectly helped and healthy?...Should they really be contained for their whole life AFTER that? Sure, I can see someone whose mental state goes beyond help staying in a facility, but if they have potential to get over it, and make something of themselves, keeping them locked up serves no purpose.



Pedofiles have a mental illness. Yes I believe they should be senteced to life in a mental hospital for it or in prison for it but not death.

[jem]

I think they should.
People like them ruin young peoples lives, in some cases, they ruin them so bad that they end their life. What gives paedos the right to force someone into ending their life? especially young people who have everything to live for. Even if the young people dont commit suicide, paedos just ruin their life completely and cause problems in later life like relationship problems and stuff....and random bit of info but people who are sexually abused as children are more likely to develop eating disorders.
Paedos should actually just die. In my opinion they're better off dead. I know thats making it easy for them because they are getting away from any punishment but they're definately better off dead .

[fraggled]

really? For life? What if they spent just a good few months getting well, and were perfectly helped and healthy?...Should they really be contained for their whole life AFTER that? Sure, I can see someone whose mental state goes beyond help staying in a facility, but if they have potential to get over it, and make something of themselves, keeping them locked up serves no purpose.


I agree that locking someone up for life might not be the right steps to take, progressive treatment might help stop reoccurances then locking them up with people of the same nature so they just end up in an endless loop of destruction.

[!Jazzy!]

Now prove to me that they didn't suicide because of their inability to relate to others, prove they weren't being bullied, prove they would have been perfectly happy if they did not have the memories of molestation.

I knew them personaly...

[Deimos]

I knew them personaly...

so?

[sweet8060]

really? For life? What if they spent just a good few months getting well, and were perfectly helped and healthy?...Should they really be contained for their whole life AFTER that? Sure, I can see someone whose mental state goes beyond help staying in a facility, but if they have potential to get over it, and make something of themselves, keeping them locked up serves no purpose.






Most of them have done this before. Just because they get "helped" and "get better" doesn't gaurentee that they won't do it again. Thye don't Get over it. There is this guy in my town who is 56 yrs. old and has done many things to little girls from the age of 16 and younger, I don't know if he has done anything to anybody older. In 1990 he was convicted of sexually assulting a girl. He got 10 yrs. on the sexual predators list. Now in 2007 after doing tons of things to other girls, he was finally reported by a brave girl in September of 2006 and was convicted again of sexual assult. This time he has been put on house arrest for 3 months, probation, and is on the sexual predators list for the rest of his life. What is ganna keep him from doing that again? I mean the whole community can find out where he is and stuff, but what about the people that don't have computers. What about the parents that don't look out for the well being of their children? Many children and adults don't say anything about being sexually assulted because they are afraid of what people will think about them when they do come out and say something. I think the world needs to show people that it is okay to come out about this stuff and that it isn't their fault. Also, the first person that reports them as a sexual predeator usually isn't their first victim. That is why I think that they should have life in a jail or in a mental institution.

[sweet8060]

I agree that locking someone up for life might not be the right steps to take, progressive treatment might help stop reoccurances then locking them up with people of the same nature so they just end up in an endless loop of destruction.

True but being a victim of sexual assult many times. I think they will just keep on repeating themselves. Once one person comes out about being assulted by one person then more usually come out about the same person because they see the bravery of another person. There is fear that lives in every person whom has been sexually assulted. We need to reach out to these people and let them know it is okay and not their fault. Nothing can make this not reoccurr again but the community needs to look for signs that somebody has been sexually assulted.

[Paideia]

I think they should serve on the front-line in Iraq. Or be put to death. You know, either way will work...

Putting them in jails is a waste of our money! Our tax dollars are spent on federal law enforcement and federal prisons- meaning that after the crime is committed these criminals are still being financially supported by us.

Last year, there was this case where there wasn't enough room in the prisons for these molesters and rapists, so the authorities put them up, temporarily, in hotel rooms! :mad: It's insane!

[sarahgirl_88]

i dont think if i agree that they should be sentenced to death.. but i do think they should go to jail for life. thats punishment enough. they wanna ruin the lives of lil girls n boys n even teens n .. pretty much anybody and everybody.. then we should ruin theirs.. not put them out of their misery.. give them misery. leave them locked up so they can get butt raped. =] jk. but yea. jus leave em locked up for life.

[Thok]

i dont think they should be killed at all.
they should be made to see the effects of their actions.
they should be forced to live with the fact that they destroyed someone else before they even had a chance to experiance life.

murders atleast finish the job and dont leave the person with such traumas.
if a pedophile is mentaly ill they should be doctored back to health just so they too can suffer from the memories of what they did.

[fraggled]

Is that so....What about the families?

[Thok]

families of the victims?
well they event has already happened so either way they got to live with it.
if they think the person was killed and got away with suffereing then they will not like the idea will they

[Insomniac]

I say chop it off, it's their fault if they can't pee :D
Seriously a death sentance would be a bit extreme, I say send them to some specialist place to recieve treatment by some psychiatrist and if they repeat the crime then put them in the slammer for a looooooooooooooong time!

[gemsy]

death sentance is a bit far.. i mean its not like they killed anyone is it? but still they should get at least some punishment... like been locked up for the rest of thier lives, because they traumatise young children.

[Menace]

Anyone who is so morally corrupt to the point where he will go as far as fucking up the life of a child...should be dead.

[*Jess*]

I dont think death would be the answer especially seeing as most are mentally ill.
Lock them up, rehabilitate them and don't give them any priveledges until they have finished their sentence.
Its not like they killed another person, they may have damaged their lives for good but killing a person is ending a life and destroying the lives of their families. But I still see the death penalty as a bad punishment, because for many it is an easy way out and if they are wrongly convicted which many are, you can't be sure, then its completely unfair and there is often no completely sure way of telling whether its one person, as even though there are forensics and court and everything that can find things out quite successfully some people may just be unlucky.

[planty]

DEATH to peado's

[misha_val]

Yes. Their screwed up and creepy.

[Insomniac]

^ Really? I always thought they were pretty cool people! :P

[Fairy]

Everybody has the right to life....
but paedophiles do have mental issues that's why they are messed up...
death isn't the answer, they need to have help while being "locked up"
but also victims need to report abuse to stop the cycle and also counceling and time will help them

[Menace]

Waste of space...

[Darts]

Paedophiles are mentally ill. They should be placed in special institutes or care homes where they are under surveillance.

[!Jazzy!]

Many describe the term death as no longer breathing, a heart stopped, and six feet below the ground. However, I like to think that death can be taken to a whole new level, a different way to interpret its meaning. Death, to me, is the crushing of one's life and soul. When pedophiles act upon their desires, they often leave their victims torn and strayed from life's wonders, which is death of a soul, personality, and person.

They should be sentenced to death. They ruin lives. They leave their victims in emotional pain, something that will affect them for all their life. They've emotionally killed their victims.

Exactly...

You really can't say rape a molestering isn't as bad as murder, because inside theres no difference. Infact rape is probably worse than murder, sure murder is awful, but the victim is dead, they cant feel any hurt after death. If someone was raped, then they do have to wake up everyday of there life. And most rape and molestation victims end up commiting suicide or attempting to, to escape from the pain. I think dieing is a whole heap better then living with a broken soul.

[!Jazzy!]

Oh, and i havnt been here for ages... :D

[!Jazzy!]

And I have no sympathy for paedophiles who end up an abuser themselves, if they get councelling or something before they actually commit the crime, then theres no problems.

[Menace]

Yup, Fucked up beyond repair.

[mandude]

Exactly...

You really can't say rape a molestering isn't as bad as murder, because inside theres no difference. Infact rape is probably worse than murder, sure murder is awful, but the victim is dead, they cant feel any hurt after death. If someone was raped, then they do have to wake up everyday of there life. And most rape and molestation victims end up commiting suicide or attempting to, to escape from the pain. I think dieing is a whole heap better then living with a broken soul.And would you be able to elaborate as to why living with the fact that you've been raped is bad. You just said what it was, and that it's bad.

[Cellar Door]

The condition of pedophilia itself is not a crime. I voted no.

[VraiCanon]

No, mainly because death would probably be an easier way out for them than having to be punished.. So you'd be helping them.. Some sort of torture could be appropiate though.

[me1]

either throw em away for life and i dont mean the 25 years i mean real life, and make em work the whole time or jus kill em. any normal society would put them to good use, leaving them to do nothing in prison doesnt quite do justice for a sick pedo. Although the death sentance doesnt make them suffer, its just done over with, but the children have to suffer with it forever and so shud they.

[VraiCanon]

But if you kill them, how are they suffering forever??

[Menace]

I say burn their balls slowly and hack 'em off; that'll probably make 'em snap out of it. :D

[me1]

But if you kill them, how are they suffering forever??

thats wat im saying, you shudnt kill em. otherwise they only suffer for a few mins, maybe i said summet wrong but yer thats what i meant lol. i know i did contradict myself abit but yer killin em is too easty nd dusnt make them suffer enough.

[me1]

I say burn their balls slowly and hack 'em off; that'll probably make 'em snap out of it. :D

note to self: never under any circumstance upset this girl :P

[Nintendus]

either throw em away for life and i dont mean the 25 years i mean real life, and make em work the whole time or jus kill em. any normal society would put them to good use, leaving them to do nothing in prison doesnt quite do justice for a sick pedo. Although the death sentance doesnt make them suffer, its just done over with, but the children have to suffer with it forever and so shud they.
We don't give life for a bog standard murder.

[fraggled]

Whats the standard sentence for murder there?

[me1]

We can give life to them, but standard sentance is around 16 years, but i think i life for a life if u murder someone perhaps you should be in for life and not the 25 years business but its quite a diverse topic as there are too many types of murders and different circumstances.
Minimum sentance for muder is 5 nd half years nd max is 32 years but i think the average isaround 16 years.

[me1]

oh and it also depends on previous convictions of course.

[Joseph]

No.

[PrettyVacant]

some people believe padedophilia is a mental illness
like years ago people thought being gay or lesbian was a mental illness.

although paedophilia will never be acceptable in our society
i don't think a death sentence will do any good.
they need help, empathy and understanding

any sort of obsession with children or otherwise is not good.

i did once think that castration would be the way forward, seeing as that would stop testostorone (presuming they were a man) being released
though now i believe that a little too harsh.

i opt for mental help rather than the death sentence
though possibly is they re-offend castration or the like could be a possibility.

[!GeTSiCK]

Definitly NOT.
Age difference isn't always a bad thing.
Technically, Pedophilia doesn't always happen with rape. Many people have relationships fully aware of how old the other person is.
I have had an experience in this type of situation.
Unless its very small children or people being raped, it's very wrong. But if the sex is agreed to on both parties.. then its nobodies fault but their own.

[me1]

well i dunno if its the same over there, i think it is, but over here if there is a significant age gap i think its when a child is under the age of like 14 or 13 and the other person is over 16 then it is automatially classed as rape in a court. Its true though dont you think that children may not be mature enough to make that decision, weather they want to or not, they may not be ready to make that decision. So i wouldnt say it should be leagal if they both consent.

[SuperEmoNinja]

No, cruel punishment achieves nothing. Let them rot.

[pamphleteer_]

y'know. what a paedophile does to children isnt something what can be justified by any sort of sentence really.
personally what right have they, no matter how fucked up their childhood was and no matter how sick they are, to inflict such torture on someone elses child just because of whats happened to them in the past or just cause they can give up their sick addiction.

my friends dad works with them along with murderers and i remember him saying to me after scaring the shit out of me with a story from his work, that the worst thing you can do is let a paedo out of jail because no matter if they think they're cured or a professional thinks they are the first thing they will do is go find some child and molest them.

i dont think they should be killed...but serve a full life sentence in jail. because no doubt the shit they will get in jail will make them want to die anyway. cause even murderers hate paedos.

[me1]

lol ya jus kinda contradicted yaself there lol, u said they shud be killed but shud serve a full life sentance :P. but yer i agree wif wat ur sayin, they have no write its just wrong, and it then messes up the child maybe even for life, they have to live with it forever and so its a life sentance for them too.

[bazookbubblegum]

Yes.

end of story.

[pamphleteer_]

lol ya jus kinda contradicted yaself there lol, u said they shud be killed but shud serve a full life sentance :P. but yer i agree wif wat ur sayin, they have no write its just wrong, and it then messes up the child maybe even for life, they have to live with it forever and so its a life sentance for them too.


haha yeh i read back through it when i'd wrote it. but i was too tired to correct myself.
-titttt-

:o

but you get the point! :)

[me1]

lol yer understandable, it was midnight so ill let ya off lol. :P

[orly]

Omfg, R U Srs?

[Leon]

Omfg, R U Srs?Are you?

[me1]

It seemed like a random comment, and from it i couldnt tell who, or what it was directed at.

[Jekyll-Hyde]

The despicable act the paedophiles do is psychological. I dislike the fact that they mess up innocent children's life but to sentence them to death is a bit on the extreme side, don't you think so? What would make more sense is to give them the therapy they need in an institute ; perhaps remove their 'tool', as well...? The person that gets molested should definitely receive councelling.

[me1]

well they probably do receive councelling and they dont need their 'tool' t still molest children, i know where your coming from but if u hada kid and god forbid he was molested by someone who had been "rehabilitated" then im sure you would feel very differently. i mean im sure some of them can live normally in society but for some it may not work. Its quite a complex subject and i think that saying "just kill em all" would be abit narrow minded but i also think that the actual act demands more of a punishment than just an insitution.

[Jekyll-Hyde]

Life imprisonment!

[me1]

and thats just locking up the problem in a cell. not only is it a waste of space it also does nothing for nobody. :D

[eukaryote]

I'm against the death penalty, so I say no. Humans shouldn't judge which other humans should live and which should die.

[tramp]

As wrong and perverted as it is, they should not be sentenced to death.

[me1]

I'm against the death penalty, so I say no. Humans shouldn't judge which other humans should live and which should die.

So who should make that decision, only god?
would you still think that if ur family was murdered by some psycopath?
Perhaps some people cant be rehabilitated, cured or anything else, what if all they want to do is kill?

just a point im raising, not arguein or nout btw.

[tramp]

So who should make that decision, only god?
would you still think that if ur family was murdered by some psycopath?
Perhaps some people cant be rehabilitated, cured or anything else, what if all they want to do is kill?

just a point im raising, not arguein or nout btw.

Of course most people will change their mind due to a personal experience, such as someone's family being murdered. I'm sure they would want revenge.

[me1]

well not everyone wud want revenge but that wud mean that u shud only give the death penalty to people who have harmed you or your family in some way lol. thats if you would change your mind with personal experiance.
I think it mostly depends on the event and the person, if somebody has no remorse or would persistantly offend, then perhaps they should receive the death penalty.

[youngpimp2009]

Well I have a little sister she jus and if ANY sick pedophile touched her,i would suggest they do suicide because if i get my hand on them.

I can guarntee they be beatento death with a broken body and be in a bag full of blood!

AND I MEAN IT!

[youngpimp2009]

Here, i found some....

i posted in a seperate post accidently...


see next post...

Here is my plan for pedophiles who molest/hurt kids death pentaly is too easy i suggest life in prison with NO parole.

As soon as ANY pedophile touches a kid,even ONCE that is life in prison with no parole.Pedophiles should be used as free slave labor.

Here is the plan:

23 hours a day off work,they work in a cold place like antartica,butt naked,with no clothes and shoes for 23 hours.

Then we fly them back to the prison where they sleep for 1 hour.

Then wake up them and they do the same thing everyday.

Sounds like a toture plan,right?

The only food they get is a piece of bread(once a week)and water(once a week).

Simple easy plan :)

[Bebot]

Well I have a little sister she jus and if ANY sick pedophile touched her,i would suggest they do suicide because if i get my hand on them.

I can guarntee they be beatento death with a broken body and be in a bag full of blood!

AND I MEAN IT!

This coming from a guy who likes to fuck helpless animals?

[Wacko1574]

^^^^hahahahahahahaha SCORE 1 ...hala

[endless_hope]

I think ALL pedefiles should be sentenced to death.
They are cruel, and f*** up small childrens lives.
paedophiles shud have their bollocks cut off if theyv offended, rapists shud simply be shot!

These people are disgrace in our society
^_^

[Wacko1574]

paedophiles shud have their bollocks cut off if theyv offended, rapists shud simply be shot!

These people are disgrace in our society
^_^^^AGREE^^

[ashleyxkilljoy]

nah, i think they should live and be tortured for the rest of their lives.
killing them would be an easy way out for them.

[eukaryote]

So who should make that decision, only god?
would you still think that if ur family was murdered by some psycopath?
Perhaps some people cant be rehabilitated, cured or anything else, what if all they want to do is kill?

just a point im raising, not arguein or nout btw.
Yes, only God should make that decision. And even if God didn't exist, I'd still be against the death penalty. And I would be even if my family was murdered by a psychopath. People should just be locked up, forever if necessary. When people are left alive there's always a chance that they will feel regret later on. No one can possibly tell whether someone ever will be "cured" or not.

[tf_arl_90]

if somebody has no remorse or would persistantly offend, then perhaps they should receive the death penalty.

How many years do you think should be given to them to show remorse before you decide it's acceptable to kill them?

[YourNightmare]

Killing them is the "easier" way. Torture them would be better or lock them up and toss away the key.

[Wacko1574]

^^yeah i think i agree with that too.......i mean they did destroy an innocent kids life...which will bruise forever!

[K Dot]

Child Molesters & Pedophiles actually do get it bad without even having to die. When they are convicted and in jail they are the number one targets in prison from other prisoners. I learned that in my criminology class a few years back. However, I do feel they should be punished accordingly & they should get longer sentences. I read about rape victims & how they never receive proper justice & it seriously is horrible! The poor children are probably scarred for life!

[Leon]

Child Molesters & Pedophiles actually do get it bad without even having to die. When they are convicted and in jail they are the number one targets in prison from other prisoners.Serves them right, I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for them.

[me1]

i agree. sure they get victimised in prison but to scar a child for the rest of its life, then they deserve it. Extalionis - an eye for an eye. If the child suffers for their whole lives so shud the person.

[youngpimp2009]

I also hope people know their is a difference between pedophiles and child molesters.

Pedophile means attraction to kids.

Child molester means molestign and harming a kid.

Not all child molesters are pedophiles and not all pedophiles molest or harm kids.

So this thread should be should we sentence child molesters to death?

HELL YES!

[Leon]

I also hope people know their is a difference between pedophiles and child molesters.

Pedophile means attraction to kids.

Child molester means molestign and harming a kid.

Not all child molesters are pedophiles and not all pedophiles molest or harm kids.

So this thread should be should we sentence child molesters to death?

HELL YES!Yes but at the end of the day there isn't much difference in there actions is there.

You're obsessed with obscure forms of sex and rape aren't you, first animals, now paedophiles, freak.

[youngpimp2009]

Yes but at the end of the day there isn't much difference in there actions is there..

Action?A pedophile hasnt really commited action just thoughts(thoughts arent illegal right?) a child molester is the one who has done the action and deserves the punishment because remeber pedophile refers to attraction doesnt mean act or action just attraction nothing illegal about that just very sick and nasty.



You're obsessed with obscure forms of sex and rape aren't you, first animals, now paedophiles, freak.

Just because I mention basic knowledge doesnt mean I'm a freak,most people dont know basic defintions and use words out of context many physchologics would agree with me.

[Leon]

Just because I mention basic knowledge doesnt mean I'm a freak,most people dont know basic defintions and use words out of context many physchologics would agree with me.Well, the fact that you are as bothered as you are about the topic to argue it over page after page of the forum, on a topic that hardly anyone would be that bothered on at all.

I mean at the end of the day, I have sex with my girlfriend, because it's normal as I'm sure many others do with their partner. I'm not really bothered about arguing and defending (that being the key part, that you keep defending them, as if they should be allowed to do what they do) their actions as it doesn't seem relevant to me, but it clearly does to you.

[me1]

can i jus point out that a pedophile can be convicted of being a pedophile and so pedophiles who do nothing about liking children their whole lives do not cause a problem so clearly the thread is just about convicted pedophiles and argueing otherwise is just argueing symantics as we all know what the thread is about.

[Buttons93]

Even if the paedophile isn't sentenced for death, it's going to be all over the papers and it's guaranteed he'll have nowhere to go because everyone will want to kill him themselves for being so messed up in the head and thinking he could get away with what he has done. Same goes to child molestors. But I don't think they should be sentenced to death, in a way they've got away with it and they aren't being taught a lesson. If they're tortured instead like has already been mentioned several times, he should learn that what he did was wrong.

[me1]

well they cant do that, its confidential, if they put the names of pedophiles all over the paper you would end up with either people trying to kill them or a group devoted to killing them so they dont do that, in britain anyway, thats why there was that controvertial arguement about having a website with their adresses and names on but im not sure about the USA or anywhere else but yer its like sentencing them to death anyway that.

[sweet8060]

All pedophiles should be required to get psychiatric help. But that is my personal opinion. They should accuatally have to be required to alot of things but the sad thing is sum ppl r too afraid to tell what happens to them

[arkham]

i dont think they should have the death penalty because it would be too easy, make them have to do nothing all day but solitary confinement, and hard labor, and dont feed them much but keep them alive, see how much they regret it

[timswfc]

But surely murdering somebody is worse that been a paedophile...somebody who kills a kid or somebody who rapes a kid - kill is obviously worse so if paedophiles are sentenced to death so should murderers...and obviously it has never harmed anybody having inapropriate pictures of children even tho is is f*cking disgusting.

[Jyt]

Get a good old labor camp for them.
Set them to work doing something useful, like making paperclips.
Or even just have a massive farm and have them cleaning all the shit and piss out.

[Brianna.]

Pedophiilia is actually a psychological disorder....a psychosexual disorder. Look back to ancient times. Greeks and Romans considered sex with children to be normal. We judge it because of todays society.

They shouldn't be sentenced to death for having this impulse they cannot control. They need severe therapy and behavior modification, not death.


...For the record, I don't support pedophilia in any way, shape, or form. My degree just makes me look at things from different angles.

[Gemski]

In my opinion, Death sentences are only handed out to murderers
Since they took someone's life, they don't deserve one of their own.

I think Paedophiles need to be helped or put away for life.
and I think life should literally be life
and not liek 25years or whatever it is.

[Nik Nak]

First offence no, unless it's really, really, REALLY bad.
But if they do it again then kill 'em.

[Jyt]

Just given a re-read and noticed this:


i dont think they should have the death penalty because it would be too easy, make them have to do nothing all day but solitary confinement, and hard labor, and dont feed them much but keep them alive, see how much they regret it

This would be extremely illegal, possibly breaking international laws.
What you're talking about here is torture camps.
We are allowed to put them to work, and keep them in solitary. However there is a limit to the hours each day that they're forced to work, a limit to how long they can spend in isolation, and a minimum amount of food and water that any prisoners have to be given access to each day.

[trooperwhiteguy]

It all depends on the situation. If someone went and found something sexual about a teenager and came to her door and sexually assaulted yet murdered her, then I would push for a death sentence. Say if it were more of a misdemeanor such as posting real names of the girl you were stalking, it wouldn't be as such major offense. That would call for somewhere near the minimum sentence since it would be classified as a misdemeanor count.

[Sneaky]

I'm not a big fan of the death penalty. I mean, pedophiles are bad people, yes, but I'm the kind of person that gives others second chances. They could be messed up in the head (read: probably are already...). If they don't harm the child or you know, it's like, a conspiracy to commit pedophiliac actions, I don't see why we should kill them.