Underage drinking ...

[iloveroddy]

for it or aganist it .. ?
should the age be made lower ?

[Haunting_Echoes]

I don't know about this one, I mean bad as it is, it will happen no matter what the limit is lowered to. Here it's 18, and that's alright, most teens don't start until about 15/16, so they aren't too far under the age limit, but I think 21 in the states is too high, not because people should be allowed to drink at a younger age, but because making teens wait so long is just an incentive for them to drink more, teens like to push the boundaries, see how far they can go before trouble happens, it's only natural.

[Patriot1776]

I'm not exactly sure where I stand on that issue. Personally I feel we should follow the drinking laws,but sometimes I wonder if the drinking age is to high. I mean, at 18 they allow you to choose your nations leaders and they allow you to drive,yet they don't seem to think you are responsible enough to drink. I've never understood that.

I feel that as long as the driunking age is reasonalbe it is okay. If there is one thing history has shown us it is that outlawing alchohol only makes the situation worse.

[The Wheel]

your allowed to Drive a 2 ton automobile at 16 By A gun too and at 18 join the armed forces and man huge bombers and tanks. Yes they should lower it

[Mamfy]

Well you can drink alcohol from a very early age if you are with your parents or have been bought it by an adult.

[~Wayne~]

I drink and am only 16 and I think 18 is reasonable even though I'd like to legally drink I dont think it would be right to lower the age

[Haunting_Echoes]

I wouldn't lower it from 18, because that's a fairly reasonable age. Most teens drink below the limit, but if it was any higher then they would probably start drinking earlier. The majority of teens drink too much, and before it's legal. I don't think you will ever change that, but why change a system that so far works quite well.

[Patriot1776]

your allowed to Drive a 2 ton automobile at 16 By A gun too and at 18 join the armed forces and man huge bombers and tanks. Yes they should lower it

Although you can't buy a gun until your older over here. There isn't any age lim it to owning one.

I think 18 is a reasonable age.

[Brianna.]

I hate the 21 thing.


I've been drinking for the past two years, and I've yet to get in an accident/get injured while under the influence.

[BleedBlack]

Well over here it's legally to drink under 18, but you can't actually buy the stuff unless your 18.
I just hate it when all the 14/15 year old's are drinking cos they think it's 'cool'

[Sponge'K'nob]

the age 21 limit is completely stupid.
I dont think they should lower the age 18, as people like to do something when there not supposed it, therefore 14 years olds drink now when there ment to be 18, so if they loweered it to 16, you would get younger kids wanting to try it out, its just wrong.....not that i dont underage drink, my mum gave me alcohol from the age of 7, and my dad gave me lager when i was 1....i have photo proof!

[Pearson]

There's no way to law an minimum age for drinking. IMO is down to maturity, There's 15 year olds that are mature enough to drink, and there's 18 year olds and older that arent. So its difficult but yeah, 18 i think is the right age. But i think gettin some1 dun whos underage and drinking responsibly is wrong. Anyone that abuses alcohol should be punished, regardles of age.

[*Jess*]

I think Im mature enough to drink, because I know all the dangers of binge drinking and other drinking dangers, and I wont drink too much of it. I refuse. I just drink now and then, socially.

[Pearson]

well then , IMO thats perfectally exceptable, even though your underage

[Brianna.]

As I said earlier, I drink, but I'm responsable. I'd never drive while I was under the influence, and I have really good self control while I'm drunk.

I've been drinking for about two years, and I'm only 17 now, so yeah.

[*Jess*]

Yeah, as pearson said, it all depends on maturity. So if you dont make yourself stupid when your drunk and you dont drive or anything, your fine.

[Kerry]

Well over here it's legally to drink under 18, but you can't actually buy the stuff unless your 18.
I just hate it when all the 14/15 year old's are drinking cos they think it's 'cool'
Yeah all the people in my old school are always on street corners drinking. It doesn't do them any favours, and to me they're just acting more like kids than grown up as they seem to think they are.


for it or aganist it .. ?
should the age be made lower ? I'm against underage drinking and the fact that people seem to think it's cool is just weird. o_O

Also, I seen on the news the other day that it's legal for kids the age of 5+ to drink in their own homes legally. (Something like that) - I think that's sick :|

[lucille]

I don't actually care if kids are drunken hooligans by the age of twelve as long as I can drink. If the drinking age turns to 21 now I'm going to start taking crack in spite.

[Foych]

don't really care if age is lower, sometimes underaged kids are pretty funny when they dring 1 beer and can't walk normaly.

[lucille]

I'm not going to deny I used to be the same. Take one sip of Turkish vodka and suddenly I was like 'sooooooooooooooo wasted'. So grinding to Boys by Britney Spears was made absolutely acceptable. Good times.

[Kate]

I don't actually care if kids are drunken hooligans by the age of twelve as long as I can drink. If the drinking age turns to 21 now I'm going to start taking crack in spite.

Fancy some company?

[lucille]

Of course Pinky, I have a feeling crack could inspire us with some world dominating plans.

I do believe I have a spare pipe somewhere in my drawers.

[Shakedown]

I think the age limit is pretty good at where it stands...still keeps SOME credibility but like it doesnt actually stop anyone who really wants to drink :D

[OMFGIDC]

I think drinking is a stupid thing to do at any age.
Drinking underage is just even more stupid.

[Xylaphonic]

I think drinking is a stupid thing to do at any age.
Drinking underage is just even more stupid.

Hmmm...drinking isn't stupid if you know your limits, being at a level when your just jolly is fine, any more than that things can get a bit dangerous. I agree with the age being lower, you dont get many things happening in Germany (16) or Spain (12). I admit, I'm 15 and I drink sometimes, I never let myself get too drunk in a place where things could happen.

[mandude]

Hmmm...drinking isn't stupid if you know your limits, being at a level when your just jolly is fine, any more than that things can get a bit dangerous. I agree with the age being lower, you dont get many things happening in Germany (16) or Spain (12). I admit, I'm 15 and I drink sometimes, I never let myself get too drunk in a place where things could happen.But surely even in a tipsy state, your idea of not getting too drunk will have faded?

[Xylaphonic]

But surely even in a tipsy state, your idea of not getting too drunk will have faded?

Yeah mabye, if you cant take your drink, I have drank a few times before and I know once tipsy I can still keep control. I'm not a lightweight either, it takes quite a bit to get me drunk. It fades a bit, but I decide before if I'm going to get to drunk and it usually works.

[OMFGIDC]

Hmmm...drinking isn't stupid if you know your limits, being at a level when your just jolly is fine, any more than that things can get a bit dangerous. I agree with the age being lower, you dont get many things happening in Germany (16) or Spain (12). I admit, I'm 15 and I drink sometimes, I never let myself get too drunk in a place where things could happen.
Well I think it is. :)

[Kerry]

I think drinking is a stupid thing to do at any age.
Drinking underage is just even more stupid.
Seconded.

[lucille]

I think drinking is a stupid thing to do

You wouldn't be saying that if you were drunk.

[OMFGIDC]

You wouldn't be saying that if you were drunk.
LOL, yeah, but then my opinion on the issue wouldn't really count.
You'd have to be an idiot to get drunk, and an idiot's opinion means nothing to me.
:)

[Foych]

i get drunk every weekend.does that make me an idiot?

[Darts]

Drinking is fine, getting drunk is fine every so often, everything's fine depending on whether you're prepared to face the consequences really, if you think about it. Alcoholics have a big problem, but then everyone has problems they find it difficult to get out of. It's just life.

Drinking age should stay 18, but if they need to be stricter just crack down on ID. Loads of people I know just use each other's, and it pisses me off simply because I miss out on loads of good nights by not doing it and yet I really wouldn't want to get the person I'd borrowed it from fined or myself fined or whatever.

But I'm glad I've waited till I'm 18 to go to all the more popular clubs n bars cos it'll be more fun when I do go, then. It's just a bugger the whole of my school year turned 18 before me, cos I'm like the 2nd youngest I think. It makes me sad cos I really do feel like I've missed out on loads of nights with my school friends.

[OMFGIDC]

Seconded.:)

[OMFGIDC]

i get drunk every weekend.does that make me an idiot?Yes. :)

[Emmax22]

stop calling people idiots.
its ok that you dont believe in it
but thats your point of view, and its what you want in your life.
dont criticize other people for what they choose to do.

[Foych]

you're jerk.that's just way of relaxing by some people.

[OMFGIDC]

stop calling people idiots.
its ok that you dont believe in it
but thats your point of view, and its what you want in your life.
dont criticize other people for what they choose to do.
LOL, I can criticize anyone for anything.
It's just MY opinion, I've never said it was anything more than that.
If people make a decision, then people will have opinions on that decision.
They'll have to deal with it.
:)

[OMFGIDC]

you're jerk.that's just way of relaxing by some people.
... I don't care.
I am more than allowed an opinion on it.

[Xylaphonic]

stop calling people idiots.
its ok that you dont believe in it
but thats your point of view, and its what you want in your life.
dont criticize other people for what they choose to do.

Listen to Emma. She's right!

[Foych]

yes.but it's that idiot part which i hate

[OMFGIDC]

Listen to Emma. She's right!... Opinions can't be right or wrong.
Opinions are opinions.

[OMFGIDC]

yes.but it's that idiot part which i hate
LOL why?

[Emmax22]

Listen to Emma. She's right!

amen to that!

[Foych]

dunno.i'm drunk every weekend and that doesn't make me an idiot

[Emmax22]

dunno.i'm drunk every weekend and that doesn't make me an idiot

nope, it makes you fun.

[Foych]

nope, it makes you fun.

haha

[OMFGIDC]

dunno.i'm drunk every weekend and that doesn't make me an idiot
Opinions differ.
You don't have to agree with mine, but that is my opinion and it's not going to change.

[OMFGIDC]

LOL @ Alcohol making you a 'fun' person.
I've never heard something so ridiculous.

[Foych]

i can see.

[Xylaphonic]

... Opinions can't be right or wrong.
Opinions are opinions.

Opinons cant be right or wrong yes, but opinions should about yourself as in I dont agree with drinking, not your an idiot for drinking. It was a bit harsh calling someone an idiot, I'm not saying your wrong.

[Emmax22]

i guess im an idiot too then, huh?

yippee.

[OMFGIDC]

Opinons cant be right or wrong yes, but opinions should about yourself as in I dont agree with drinking, not your an idiot for drinking. It was a bit harsh calling someone an idiot, I'm not saying your wrong.
So I shouldn't voice my opinion because someone may take offense?

I have reasons for thinking the way I do, and people have reasons for thinking the way I do.
I'm not telling anyone here that they are wrong for thinking in such a way, why is it so wrong for me to call someone an idiot based on what I believe?

[Foych]

for OMFGIDC we're all idiot's.well allmost all

[OMFGIDC]

i guess im an idiot too then, huh?

yippee.
LOL @ people getting so butt hurt.
It's only an opinion.


I guess I'm boring because I'm against alcohol, huh?

yippee.

[OMFGIDC]

for OMFGIDC we're all idiot's.well allmost all:)

[mandude]

So I shouldn't voice my opinion because someone may take offense?

I have reasons for thinking the way I do, and people have reasons for thinking the way I do.
I'm not telling anyone here that they are wrong for thinking in such a way, why is it so wrong for me to call someone an idiot based on what I believe?Atleast argue your opinion rather than just stating it.

[Emmax22]

i never said i was "so butt hurt"
i find this whole conversation quite amusing.

[OMFGIDC]

Atleast argue your opinion rather than just stating it.No-one has asked for reasons behind my opinion, therefore I have not said.
I don't have to explain myself.

[Foych]

OMFGIDC you could at least tel us why we're ˝idiots˝

[OMFGIDC]

i never said i was "so butt hurt"
i find this whole conversation quite amusing.
I never said you said you were butt hurt.
Good, me too. :)

[Xylaphonic]

I like debates, no one is hurt by you calling them an idiot, just you dont have to explain your view in that way!

[mandude]

No-one has asked for reasons behind my opinion, therefore I have not said.
I don't have to explain myself.I just indirectly did. It is a debate section after all. Reasons are usually a good idea, in that they help getting opinions across.

[Darts]

dunno.i'm drunk every weekend and that doesn't make me an idiot

Yeh but Slovenia is the BEST place to drink! :D

[Foych]

haha.where did you get that.i just turned 18 when they set up age limit.i'm lucky person

[OMFGIDC]

OMFGIDC you could at least tel us why we're ˝idiots˝Drinking in moderation is a stupid thing to do, but drinking to get drunk is just something an idiot would do.
IN MY OPINION.
Why do people feel the need to drink to get drunk?
No good comes of it.
It's like smoking; you know it's bad for you, yet you do it anyway.

[Darts]

Definition- Idiot: People who use bad grammar.

[Emmax22]

LOL @ people getting so butt hurt.
It's only an opinion.





yeah you did say that lol

[OMFGIDC]

I like debates, no one is hurt by you calling them an idiot, just you dont have to explain your view in that way!People seem to be hurt by me calling them an idiot.
/shrug.
But that IS my view.
I'm not a horibble person, I usually sugar-coat things, but alcohol is an issue I feel strongly about.

[Xylaphonic]

Definition- Idiot: People who use bad grammar.

:D

[Xylaphonic]

People seem to be hurt by me calling them an idiot.
/shrug.
But that IS my view.
I'm not a horibble person, I usually sugar-coat things, but alcohol is an issue I feel strongly about.

No one said you were.

[OMFGIDC]

I just indirectly did. It is a debate section after all. Reasons are usually a good idea, in that they help getting opinions across.
Reasons for thinking people who drink to get drunk are idiots:-

No good can come of it.
It's bad for your health.
Why must you put alcohol in your body to have a 'fun' time, to be a 'fun' person.
It can become an addiction.

There's a few.

[OMFGIDC]

yeah you did say that lol
No, I said "LOL @ People getting butt hurt".
I didn't say YOU said you were butt hurt.

[Emmax22]

People seem to be hurt by me calling them an idiot.
/shrug.


dude, i never said i was hurt.
no one is hurt by your silly name callling.

[OMFGIDC]

No one said you were.LOL, I know.

[mandude]

Reasons for thinking people who drink to get drunk are idiots:-

No good can come of it.
It's bad for your health.
Why must you put alcohol in your body to have a 'fun' time, to be a 'fun' person.
It can become an addiction.

There's a few.Thanks. I actually agree with you, though.

[OMFGIDC]

dude, i never said i was hurt.
no one is hurt by your silly name callling.
Nor did I say you said you were hurt...

LOL, It's not silly name calling.

[Kerry]

Thanks. I actually agree with you, though.
Me too :)

[OMFGIDC]

Thanks. I actually agree with you, though.:)

[MissRay]

don't really care if age is lower, sometimes underaged kids are pretty funny when they dring 1 beer and can't walk normaly.

..
..
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That would be inhumane if the age was lowered just to give people like you pleasure in finding underage drinkers funny.

....

[Xylaphonic]

Nor did I say you said you were hurt...

LOL, It's not silly name calling.

Ok, it's name calling that's not really needed.

[OMFGIDC]

Ok, it's name calling that's not really needed.
It's an opinion.
I have reason for saying it, and thinking it.
It's not like I'm just calling anyone anything for the sake of doing so.

[Emmax22]

ugh.
just end this already.
we ALL already know that you dont like to drink and that you think its wrong.
now just drop it.
stop judging people just because they dont believe in the same thing that you do.
its not always about you.

[OMFGIDC]

ugh.
just end this already.
we ALL already know that you dont like to drink and that you think its wrong.
now just drop it.
stop judging people just because they dont believe in the same thing that you do.
its not always about you.
LOL!!
I never said it was all about me.
But I AM entitled to an opinion, and to voice it.
Wow, drinkers are the only people allowed to post in alcohol related threads, right?
And only non-virgins are allowed to post in sex threads, right?

LOL.
I can judge whoever I want based on whatever I want.
:)

[Xylaphonic]

We have got a bit off topic haven't we! Right...I believe if people get pleasure from alcohol and if it makes them happy then I think it's ok for people to drink.

Underage drinking is becoming a problem in the UK as girls now do it to get attention from the boys, and they only do it for the actually drunkness not the taste or social factors.

[Emmax22]

LOL!!
I never said it was all about me.
But I AM entitled to an opinion, and to voice it.
Wow, drinkers are the only people allowed to post in alcohol related threads, right?
And only non-virgins are allowed to post in sex threads, right?

LOL.
I can judge whoever I want based on whatever I want.
:)

WOW you really are RETARDED.
i NEVER once said you couldnt post here.
i said dont judge people by what they believe in.
its fine to come here and post and state what you believe but
dont go around calling people idiots because they dont see eye to eye with you.
you really cant comprehend anything, huh?

[Foych]

WOW you really are RETARDED.
i NEVER once said you couldnt post here.
i said dont judge people by what they believe in.
its fine to come here and post and state what you believe but
dont go around calling people idiots because they dont see eye to eye with you.
you really cant comprehend anything, huh?

now you made her mad:)

[Xylaphonic]

:( Dont call people idiots. END OF. Now...back on topic.

[OMFGIDC]

WOW you really are RETARDED.
i NEVER once said you couldnt post here.
i said dont judge people by what they believe in.
its fine to come here and post and state what you believe but
dont go around calling people idiots because they dont see eye to eye with you.
you really cant comprehend anything, huh? LOL @ You having a go at me for 'name calling', and then calling me retarded
Hypocrite much?
You said 'end it here', I think that qualifies.
I'm not calling people idiots because they don't see eye to eye with me, I'm calling them idiots because they do something I disagree with.
At the end of the day, it is their choice, yes, but it's also my choice to think what I want of that choice.
If you want to end it, you end it.
I'm stubborn and I'll keep posting. :)

[OMFGIDC]

now you made her mad:)LOL @ people getting mad at the internet.

[Kerry]

To be fair she was just only voicing her opinion and got into this because of it, after all it's the debates section, it's what you're meant to do.

[Xylaphonic]

She's not mad at the internet, she's mad at your spitefulness and selfishness. And how you can't control yourself. NOW, please end this.

[Darts]

People get mad at TVs and games consoles too, your point? Little things matter as well tha' knows.

[OMFGIDC]

To be fair she was just only voicing her opinion and got into this because of it, after all it's the debates section, it's what you're meant to do.
Exactly.

[OMFGIDC]

She's not mad at the internet, she's mad at your spitefulness and selfishness. And how you can't control yourself. NOW, please end this.
LOL @ me being spiteful and selfish and not having self control.

[OMFGIDC]

People get mad at TVs and games consoles too, your point? Little things matter as well tha' knows.
It's stupid. :)

[Emmax22]

LOL @ You having a go at me for 'name calling', and then calling me retarded
Hypocrite much?
You said 'end it here', I think that qualifies.
I'm not calling people idiots because they don't see eye to eye with me, I'm calling them idiots because they do something I disagree with.
At the end of the day, it is their choice, yes, but it's also my choice to think what I want of that choice.
If you want to end it, you end it.
I'm stubborn and I'll keep posting. :)

yeah but i have a reason to call you retarted.
you called people idiots because of what they believe in.
im not calling you an idiot because you dont drink.
i think thats fine that you dont drink, and i dont see anything wrong with it.
im calling you retarded because you go around calling people names because they dont agree with you.
not everyone in the world is going to agree with you all the time.
and its not just about this issue, its about life in general.
you need to learn how to accept what other people think.

[Xylaphonic]

Exactly.

Voicing an opinion doesn't involve making un-called-for insults!

[Fez]

drinkin alone is retarded. drinkin and havin fun is not idiotic at all..

[Foych]

we in slovenia say: i drink when i'm alone and in company:)

[Emmax22]

agreed, fezzy.

[Kate]

Oi, right, we all know you dislike alcohol, and you have experience of what it does to families, but you've admitted to never properly trying it.
Sorry, but who the fuck are you to judge something you've never tried?
Its like someone saying "Oh, no i dont like chinese food" without even trying it first.
I have sympathy for what its done to your father, but for gods sake, stop sitting on here whinging about it and go try it, and then people will respect you more when you come to judge it.

[mandude]

Voicing an opinion doesn't involve making un-called-for insults!It was a certain aspect that could be considered idiotic. There was a point behind it, and it was backed up. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Xylaphonic]

drinkin alone is retarded. drinkin and havin fun is not idiotic at all..

Spot on. If you drink to get drunk your an alcoholic, if you drink to socialize there is nothing wrong.

[Darts]

RIGHT everybody stop. Maturity requires the ability to see both sides of the situation.

Yes, drinking alcohol is bad for the health etc. The statement that no good can come of it is wrong, because only God knows how one event affects another.

Non-drinkers need to learn to understand just how badly some people are affected by their own inhibitions and inability to feel comfortable around other people. Alcohol may not be a solution to this but in the short term at parties etc when one wishes to not be worried about this problem, it helps. And why not? As long as it isn't abused, it's fine.

Debating is all well and good as long as you ACCEPT both sides before you begin.

[OMFGIDC]

yeah but i have a reason to call you retarted.
you called people idiots because of what they believe in.
im not calling you an idiot because you dont drink.
i think thats fine that you dont drink, and i dont see anything wrong with it.
im calling you retarded because you go around calling people names because they dont agree with you.
not everyone in the world is going to agree with you all the time.
and its not just about this issue, its about life in general.
you need to learn how to accept what other people think.
I understand and accept that people have different opinions.
I never once said mine was more correct than anyone elses.
I never said people SHOULD agree with me.
I never said people weren't entitled to their own DIFFERENT opinions.

I am more than willing to accept other peoples' points of view, I just don't intend on agreeing with them for the sake of doing so.
And I too have reasons for calling people such things.
I don't do it for the sake of doing so, that is just stupid.

[OMFGIDC]

Voicing an opinion doesn't involve making un-called-for insults!
It wasn't uncalled for and it was intended as an insult.
It's how I see things.

[Kerry]

It was a certain aspect that could be considered idiotic. There was a point behind it, and it was backed up. There's nothing wrong with that.
Seconded. :)

[Emmax22]

so what was your reason for calling us idiots?
...because we dont agree with you.

[OMFGIDC]

Oi, right, we all know you dislike alcohol, and you have experience of what it does to families, but you've admitted to never properly trying it.
Sorry, but who the fuck are you to judge something you've never tried?
Its like someone saying "Oh, no i dont like chinese food" without even trying it first.
I have sympathy for what its done to your father, but for gods sake, stop sitting on here whinging about it and go try it, and then people will respect you more when you come to judge it.
I don't need respect from people.
People who don't listen to an opinion because you're not stupid enough to try it out in the first place aren't the people I want respect from.
It's like saying about smoking; "oh well you haven't tried it, how do you know it's bad for you?"
There are some things you just KNOW.

[Xylaphonic]

It wasn't uncalled for and it was intended as an insult.
It's how I see things.

Ok, ok, sorry for not accepting that's how you get your point across. I understand.

[OMFGIDC]

It was a certain aspect that could be considered idiotic. There was a point behind it, and it was backed up. There's nothing wrong with that.Exactly.
It wasn't meant to insult anyone.

[Nintendus]

yeah but i have a reason to call you retarted.
you called people idiots because of what they believe in.
im not calling you an idiot because you dont drink.
i think thats fine that you dont drink, and i dont see anything wrong with it.
im calling you retarded because you go around calling people names because they dont agree with you.
not everyone in the world is going to agree with you all the time.
and its not just about this issue, its about life in general.
you need to learn how to accept what other people think. Well that argument's pathetic, she didn't directly call anyone an idiot as far as I can tell. She said anyone who drinks is an idiot. In similar vein, to anyone who takes drugs is an idiot. Anyone who commits suicide is stupid. She backed it up with reasoning, you seem far more insulted at a group of people being called stupid then countering her arguments.

I do not drink, I have no intention of drinking. Health benefits gained from it are minimal, and I have a good, strong personality without having to drink. It does not enchance me socially, as I would simply be worried all the time that I was not in full control of myself. Nor do I need it to alleviate stress. The negative effects far outweight the idea of small health benefits.

(If anyone responds I might take a while too, exam season and all)

p.s. Emma, that last post was hypocritical. You just agreed with Fez who said "drinkin alone is retarded. drinkin and havin fun is not idiotic at all", you seem quite happy to agree with the insulting of a group for the sake of your argument. (God I'm lost in this thread, I don't rememebr there being so much replies, this pointed at a post somewhere at the top :p)

[OMFGIDC]

RIGHT everybody stop. Maturity requires the ability to see both sides of the situation.

Yes, drinking alcohol is bad for the health etc. The statement that no good can come of it is wrong, because only God knows how one event affects another.

Non-drinkers need to learn to understand just how badly some people are affected by their own inhibitions and inability to feel comfortable around other people. Alcohol may not be a solution to this but in the short term at parties etc when one wishes to not be worried about this problem, it helps. And why not? As long as it isn't abused, it's fine.

Debating is all well and good as long as you ACCEPT both sides before you begin.
I can understand that.
People tell me I should drink, because I feel uncomfortable in big crowds, at parties and such.
My mother does so, as does my aunt, but it doesn't help them in my opinion.
Covering one problem with another doesn't help, in my opinion.

[Emmax22]

I don't need respect from people.
People who don't listen to an opinion because you're not stupid enough to try it out in the first place aren't the people I want respect from.
It's like saying about smoking; "oh well you haven't tried it, how do you know it's bad for you?"
There are some things you just KNOW.

yes, we all KNOW smoking is bad for you.
so if this argument was about smoking and someone said you couldnt judge people because you havnt tryed it then you would be right.
but drinking isnt bad for you if you dont abuse it.

[OMFGIDC]

so what was your reason for calling us idiots?
...because we dont agree with you.
Not because you don't agree with me.
My reason for calling people idiots isn't based around ME, it's based around the alcohol issue.
I just happen to have a different opinion.

+ I already stated a few a while back.

[Xylaphonic]

Exactly.
It wasn't meant to insult anyone.

Earlier, you said it was meant as an insult.

[OMFGIDC]

Well that argument's pathetic, she didn't directly call anyone an idiot as far as I can tell. She said anyone who drinks is an idiot. In similar vein, to anyone who takes drugs is an idiot. Anyone who commits suicide is stupid. She backed it up with reasoning, you seem far more insulted at a group of people being called stupid then countering her arguments.

I do not drink, I have no intention of drinking. Health benefits gained from it are minimal, and I have a good, strong personality without having to drink. It does not enchance me socially, as I would simply be worried all the time that I was not in full control of myself. Nor do I need it to alleviate stress. The negative effects far outweight the idea of small health benefits.

(If anyone responds I might take a while too, exam season and all)

p.s. Emma, that last post was hypocritical. You just agreed with Fez who said "drinkin alone is retarded. drinkin and havin fun is not idiotic at all", you seem quite happy to agree with the insulting of a group for the sake of your argument. (God I'm lost in this thread, I don't rememebr there being so much replies, this pointed at a post somewhere at the top :p)
Exactly.

[OMFGIDC]

yes, we all KNOW smoking is bad for you.
so if this argument was about smoking and someone said you couldnt judge people because you havnt tryed it then you would be right.
but drinking isnt bad for you if you dont abuse it.
IT DEPENDS ON YOUR OPINION.
Sorry you disagree with me, but drinking IS bad for you IN MY OPINION.

[Kate]

I don't need respect from people.

Hah, i'd like to see you trying to get far in life living on that prophecy.
All your opinions are based on the stupid mistakes of your father.
Drinking in moderation is fine, and i'm sure if you pulled out that rod from your backside and actually tried it you would agree.

[OMFGIDC]

Earlier, you said it was meant as an insult.I highly doubt I did.
If I did, I probably made a typo.

[Xylaphonic]

IT DEPENDS ON YOUR OPINION.
Sorry you disagree with me, but drinking IS bad for you IN MY OPINION.
It is bad for you in the long run, once you get addicted and use it enough to abuse your body then it's bad. And it could be bad in the sense than it makes you do stupid things. But overall, I like alcohol and the way it makes me feel.

[Emmax22]

p.s. Emma, that last post was hypocritical. You just agreed with Fez who said "drinkin alone is retarded. drinkin and havin fun is not idiotic at all", you seem quite happy to agree with the insulting of a group for the sake of your argument. (God I'm lost in this thread, I don't rememebr there being so much replies, this pointed at a post somewhere at the top :p)

i agreed with fez because i think its ok to drink in groups when your with friends and have fun at partys.
but i dont think its ok to drink when your alone.
i wasnt being hypocritical.

[OMFGIDC]

Hah, i'd like to see you trying to get far in life living on that prophecy.
All your opinions are based on the stupid mistakes of your father.
Drinking in moderation is fine, and i'm sure if you pulled out that rod from your backside and actually tried it you would agree.
LOL, no they are not.
My father has a big part to play in it, but that is not the only thing I base my opinions on.
+ As stated earlier, I'm not stupid enough to try it.

[Xylaphonic]

How are you stupid to try something? Just because someone you know has had bad experiences with it, what stops you? What makes you think you will have the same experiences?

[OMFGIDC]

It is bad for you in the long run, once you get addicted and use it enough to abuse your body then it's bad. And it could be bad in the sense than it makes you do stupid things. But overall, I like alcohol and the way it makes me feel.
Okay.
my opinion differs, but whatever.

[Xylaphonic]

It wasn't uncalled for and it was intended as an insult.
It's how I see things.


I highly doubt I did.
If I did, I probably made a typo.

It probably was a typo then.

[Emmax22]

yeah i think its bad for you in the long run if you get addicted and start drinking all the time not only when you are out with people but alone.
i think its find if you drink with your friends or at partys. as long as you dont abuse it.

[OMFGIDC]

How are you stupid to try something? Just because someone you know has had bad experiences with it, what stops you? What makes you think you will have the same experiences?
I am like my father in every single way.
My biggest fear in life is becoming my father's duplicate, and I'll do anything in order to prevent it from happening.

It's a long story, and it would probably be understood better if I went through it all, but I don't have the time at the minute.
There are other factors to why I disagree so strongly with alcohol, too, but as I said, I don't have the time.

[OMFGIDC]

It probably was a typo then.
Yeah, my bad.
I didn't recognise it to edit it.

[Nintendus]

i agreed with fez because i think its ok to drink in groups when your with friends and have fun at partys.
but i dont think its ok to drink when your alone.
i wasnt being hypocritical. You agreed with his post, which suggested that drinking alone was retarded. You didn't say, but I don't think its retarded. You just agreed with it, I hope your not offended that the rest of us took the post as you said it.

a lot of you should stop posting your points and look back through the thread where they have already been made. OMFGIDC has stated other reasons for not liking it, as have I, which have simply been ignored.

Edit: Where I said made, I meant responded to. Sorry about that. And the bold too, I can't turn it off :p

[OMFGIDC]

The only time I would really agree with drinking alcohol is if it were a special occasion, really.
I don't see the point in drinking every week or something.

[Foych]

well weekend is special occasion.you meet your friends you haven't seen for a week

[Emmax22]

I am like my father in every single way.
My biggest fear in life is becoming my father's duplicate, and I'll do anything in order to prevent it from happening.

It's a long story, and it would probably be understood better if I went through it all, but I don't have the time at the minute.
There are other factors to why I disagree so strongly with alcohol, too, but as I said, I don't have the time.

ok i completely understand why you wouldnt want to drink. most likely because you dont want to become addicted and have the same issues as your father.
but dont judge other people because they do drink.
my mom is an alcholic and i have gone through hell but i dont base my opionions about drinking on her mistakes.

[Nintendus]

ok i completely understand why you wouldnt want to drink. most likely because you dont want to become addicted and have the same issues as your father.
but dont judge other people because they do drink.
my mom is an alcholic and i have gone through hell but i dont base my opionions about drinking on her mistakes.
She has stated other reasons in this thread :/. The opposing arguments seem to be like a broken record at the moment.

[Kate]

As stated earlier, I'm not stupid enough to try it.

So now you're calling everyone who's every tried alcohol, stupid?

[Emmax22]

You agreed with his post, which suggested that drinking alone was retarded. You didn't say, but I don't think its retarded.

i really dont understand what your trying to say here.
i agreed with fez because i feel the same way he does.
i think that drinking alone can turn into a problem where you become addicted
but its ok to drink in groups with your friends or at partys as long as you dont abuse it.

[Xylaphonic]

Does it really matter if people repeat themselves, she also stated, about 10 times, that she can have her own opinion.

[OMFGIDC]

well weekend is special occasion.you meet your friends you haven't seen for a weekum, i'm not even going to bother.

[mandude]

She has stated other reasons in this thread :/. The opposing arguments seem to be like a broken record at the moment.They're arguing about basing people on their opinions. Opinions on drinking is just the example they're using. Even so, it's more about drinking as opposed to underage drinking. It's off topic, really. :p

[OMFGIDC]

ok i completely understand why you wouldnt want to drink. most likely because you dont want to become addicted and have the same issues as your father.
but dont judge other people because they do drink.
my mom is an alcholic and i have gone through hell but i dont base my opionions about drinking on her mistakes.
Fair enough, but we are obviously very different people.

+ I HAVE OTHER REASONS. People seem to keep ignoring this part.

[Kate]

+ I HAVE OTHER REASONS. People seem to keep ignoring this part.

What are your other reasons?

[OMFGIDC]

So now you're calling everyone who's every tried alcohol, stupid?LOL, I think it's a stupid thing to do. yes.

[OMFGIDC]

Okay, I actually have things to do, so I'll reply later.
BYEZ

[Xylaphonic]

At what age does everyone think is alright to drink?

[Nintendus]

i really dont understand what your trying to say here.
i agreed with fez because i feel the same way he does.
i think that drinking alone can turn into a problem where you become addicted
but its ok to drink in groups with your friends or at partys as long as you dont abuse it.
I am trying to say here that you agreed with his post, which was saying it was a retarded thing to do to drink alone, much like saying it would be a stupid thing to do to try drinking. If someone said I agree with going to war against France because they smell funny, and you say I agree, you don't suggest you were selectively agreeing, and that you think we should go to war, but that they do not smell. That is my point.


So now you're calling everyone who's every tried alcohol, stupid?
Yes, got a reason why she shouldn't, or are you just going to act incredulous?

P.S. Not all French smell.

[Emmax22]

ohh lordyy.

[Kerry]

So now you're calling everyone who's every tried alcohol, stupid?
I really don't think that's how she meant it... :/

[Foych]

@xylphonic
i started at 15, that's first time i was really drunk. but frist time i tried alcohol at 10 or 9.

[Xylaphonic]

AHHHH...please come back on topic, please...someone answer my question!

[Emmax22]

I am trying to say here that you agreed with his post, which was saying it was a retarded thing to do to drink alone, much like saying it would be a stupid thing to do to try drinking. If someone said I agree with going to war against France because they smell funny, and you say I agree, you don't suggest you were selectively agreeing, and that you think we should go to war, but that they do not smell. That is my point.


Yes, got a reason why she shouldn't, or are you just going to act incredulous?

P.S. Not all French smell.

i was agreeing because in most cases if you drink a lot when you are alone and not doing it to socialize you are probably abusing it and becoming addictive.
its not in all cases but in most, yes.
im not saying that all people who drink alone are alcohalics and stupid.
as long as you dont become addictive its fine.

[Nintendus]

i was agreeing because in most cases if you drink a lot when you are alone and not doing it to socialize you are probably abusing it and becoming addictive.
its not in all cases but in most, yes.
im not saying that all people who drink alone are alcohalics and stupid.
as long as you dont become addictive its fine.
I know but that is now what you said originally, hence my point.

[Emmax22]

well thats what i meant.

[Fez]

At what age does everyone think is alright to drink?

16.. thats the first time i got piss drunk and evrything worked out fine..
cept for the fact that i slept through the whole next day and missed another party

[Xylaphonic]

16.. thats the first time i got piss drunk and evrything worked out fine..
cept for the fact that i slept through the whole next day and missed another party

Ahaha!

[OMFGIDC]

i really dont understand what your trying to say here.
i agreed with fez because i feel the same way he does.
i think that drinking alone can turn into a problem where you become addicted
but its ok to drink in groups with your friends or at partys as long as you dont abuse it.
You're willing to agree that a bunch of people are retarded, but it's wrong of me to call a bunch of people idiots.

[OMFGIDC]

At what age does everyone think is alright to drink?
If you're going to drink, it should be at the legal age.
18.

[lucille]

16.. thats the first time i got piss drunk and evrything worked out fine..
cept for the fact that i slept through the whole next day and missed another party

But its through those traumatic experiences you can learn and grow. When I say learn, I mean discover the wonders of amphetamines, of course.

[Bob!]

you dont get many things happening in Spain (12).

Thats probably cause no one WANTS to drink over there, spanish beer is like rat piss, blergh.

Indian beer 4tw.

Anyways cut down on the arguments and name calling peeps, recognise ya all have different views.

We be watching.

[Xylaphonic]

No...they sell other alcohol, I like spanish beer. There are like 14 year olds buying bottles of vodka, that cracks me up!

[JackAttack]

i cant think of a weekend in a really long time where i havnt gone out with friends and gotten drunk. :)

vodka, ftw

[Kate]

spanish beer is like rat piss, blergh.

I loled :)

[Rashella]

Hmm, i dont approve of drinking under the age of 15/16. At 16 we can choose to smoke/have children (girls) which are both affect our health more than the occasional drink. I think if we can choose to smoke and have kids then we are capable of making our own decision to drink too.

People below 15/16 i think are too young really. Below that age generally people do it to fit in with there friends/peer pressure.

[Darts]

See I don't think people should have kids till 18 :/

I reckon 18 is a fine age cos it limits what 16+ people can do, they can still occasionally get into places and get hold of alcohol. I think it's fine as it is.

[fraggled]

I'm going to go get so drunk right now that I'll probably wake up 1500 miles away and not know how I got there.

[Xylaphonic]

I'm going to go get so drunk right now that I'll probably wake up 1500 miles away and not know how I got there.

Thats great, you do that!

[Rashella]

Neither do i Darts (People under 18 being allowed to have a child) but thats a different debate altogether, 16 is an appropiate legal age for sex but i dont think an appropiate age to raise a child.

[Nirvana_rox]

It wrecks people.
But you enjoy it (most people)
Why though...

Tis realy stupid.

[Shakedown]

It wrecks people.
But you enjoy it (most people)
Why though...

Tis realy stupid.
Are you talking about drinking from a young age or about having sex and raising a child at 16?

[Fez]

i'm 19 and i still dont wanna raise a child. i hate little kids. maybe when they'r grown up and outta the house and im retired. they'd be worth something. traveling to different places at their charge without having me to waste a dime. till then i rather not have kids or just put them on a care kid center. protection for the win. not against diseases but against kids