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ZooYork5022
April 24th '07, 03:37 PM
Hey everyone, just thought I would start a thread where I could answer any questions for anybody considering joining the military after high school. I noticed a lot of members here are from Europe and I honostly don't know how the military over in England and other countries operate. However I've been in the U.S. Army for a year and a half so I know what goes on. So any question's about basic training, job/careers, regulations, everyday life in the military, deployment, anything...

I'll post some of the differences between the branches here...

Army

Active Duty: This is the regular Army. You will enlist as a Private (E-1 paygrade) unless you have college experience you may be enlisted as a Specialist (E-4). You will complete Basic Training and AIT (Advanced Individual Training aka Job Training). And you will live everyday and do you job on base wherever you may be stationed. The Army's pay system works not by hourly wage but by everyday you work. You are on duty everyday so you get payed for everyday. You get paid 2 times a month (usually the 1st and 15th of the month). You get weekends off (most the time) and all national holidays you get off and paid, and 30 days a year paid vacation to use whenever you wish. You also get 100% free medical and dental coverage and CHEAP life insurance. I pay $25 a month for Life Insurance that goes up to $650,000. We also are the largest branch of the others.

Reserves: Same as the army but you live at home and report to your home unit instead of live on base everday. Basically part time Active Duty.

National Guard: Most people don't know National Guard is a service under the Army. It's part time and full time. You will complete BCT (Basic Combat Training) and AIT just like everyone else in the Army and then report to you'r home unit. You will live at home everyday like the Reserves. You are obligated a weekend a month of duty and 2 weeks a year annual training. Unlike the reserves you take orders from not only the Federal Government (The President, Secretery of State [people who run the Military]) but also from you state Governor. You have a dual mission in that sense. Also unlike the Reserves, you have the opportunity to be Active Guard which is you work at your home unit just like a 9 to 5 job. You live at home but report to you'r unit Monday - Friday.


USMC (Marines): The Marines are the most disciplined and they have the hardest BCT. The rank system is similiar to the Army's but the customs and courtesies (saluting, calling attention) is somewhat different because the Marines is a service under the Navy.

Navy: I have a Sergeant in my unit that switch from Navy to Army so he let me know what it's kind of like. Really different from any other branch. The rank, the customs/courtesies are different from what the Army does. If you are interested in traveling the world, you might look into this. The BCT is relativly easy compared to Marines and Army.

Air Force: The easiest of all branches (in my opinion). They have 1 BCT location in the U.S. More of a mentally tough type of career than the other branches. Rank system is different but has some similarities, so does the customs/courtesies. The Air Force is full of intelligent airmen with alot of promise in their civilian life. I've met many people in the Air Force and they really enjoy it because they don't have to completely change their lifestyle to adapt to life in the Air Force. It's a good environment to work in.

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So I kind of just gave you the basics between the branches, sorry but I really know the Army and not a whole lot about the Navy and Air Force. But I'll try to answer any questions.

I have been in some of your shoes, deciding to leave home and join the military is a tough decision so please ask me anything I would actually greatly appreciate it. Thanks everyone for taking the time to read this.

God.
April 24th '07, 03:47 PM
Actually, yeah... I've been thinking about joining the military.

It's the shooting innocent people in illegal wars that makes me want to do it, especially the children.

ZooYork5022
April 24th '07, 03:59 PM
Everyone's got their opinion and I've met plenty of people who share yours.

But you have to realize that a lot of the soldiers over there don't support the War anymore and just want to get home and see their families. Believe it or not but what the media tells you isn't all that goes on in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most people don't ever get to see or hear about the good things that we are doing for that country.

Rashella
April 24th '07, 03:59 PM
Mud and dead bodies aint my scene sorry =P.

God.
April 24th '07, 04:05 PM
But you have to realize that a lot of the soldiers over there don't support the War anymore and just want to get home and see their families.

WHy would I want to put myself in a situation where I'm risking my life for something I don't believe in, taking the lives of others, who have done fuck all to me, and potentially risk never seeing my family again.

How many hundreds of stories now are there about women being left with a 1 year old child, who never even got close to bonding with their dad, he even missed the birth... because he was away.

iaxa
April 24th '07, 04:09 PM
i dunno what i want to do but i know one why or another i will end up there. in Communications or as a Foot Solider. Its that or Marine Bio...

mandude
April 24th '07, 04:16 PM
I agree with Callum and Rashella, but it's also the way I'd have to live my life, without the luxuries I currently have. Also there are things I could never humiliate myself doing, which one may have to in rare circumstances, such as drinking stagnant water through my rectum.

imnini
April 24th '07, 06:13 PM
i dont waqnt to be in the military but alot of my closest freind are i love a guy in uniform ;)

PrincessAlice
April 24th '07, 07:47 PM
riccos joined army

Jimbob
April 24th '07, 08:48 PM
Thought about it, never quite got there, but shall see.

Fez
April 24th '07, 10:22 PM
hell no.
i quit my ROTC class. i felt like a sell out to my country

Forumfavorite
April 24th '07, 10:44 PM
The Coast Guard is part of the military believe it or not. That's what I want to join. You don't really go to war. There is a risk, but not as much as the Army or the other positions.

Paideia
April 25th '07, 01:30 AM
However I've been in the U.S. Army for a year and a half so I know what goes on.
hey i'm not supporting the war but I applaud anyone who has enough courage to join in...because without a voluntary army, there might be a draft. :(

ZooYork5022
April 25th '07, 04:06 AM
hey i'm not supporting the war but I applaud anyone who has enough courage to join in...because without a voluntary army, there might be a draft. :(

I appreciate that. I honostly don't have any problem with any person who does not support this war or any war for that fact because I don't really support myself. But I didn't join the Army to go to war, infact I've only met 1 person who did. Another point is, I've met Sergeants who have been in the Army 5 to 10 years and have never seen combat. But I respect all you'r opinions and appreciate posting something.

Forumfavorite
April 25th '07, 04:11 AM
Thanks for sharing the info. Do you know much about the Coast Guard?

ZooYork5022
April 25th '07, 05:19 AM
Part of the Navy. Infact it is almost exactly like the Navy only you are stay within U.S. waters most the time. I dont know much about the coast guard but rest assure that you will have to take the same orders as the Navy does. I think Coast Guard's Basic Training is in Maryland or Maine. Lemme check on that and I'll write back.

ZooYork5022
April 25th '07, 05:26 AM
Okay I got some more info for you Forumfavorite...

Well first off, if you enlist in the Coast Guard you are almost garanteed not to go to war. Rumsfeld has all but decided to make the Coast Guard strictly homeland security. Heres the link for that article... http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/a/022530.htm?terms=coast+guard%20info


As for you BCT, you will goto Cape May, New Jersey for 7 and 1/2 weeks of training (not included the 1/2 week to 1 week for inprocessing [inprocessing in my opinion is the worst part of BCT all together!]). Here's the link for more info... http://usmilitary.about.com/od/cgjoin/l/aacgbasic1.htm


Hope that helps.

iaxa
April 25th '07, 04:36 PM
mmm. Army is looking even fine atm there is a barracks at my dads !

ZooYork5022
April 25th '07, 04:39 PM
I like the Australian Army's camoflouge...

http://www.kamouflage.net/graphics/eyecandy/rainf_02.jpg

iaxa
April 25th '07, 04:52 PM
lol. stupid bushmen.

ZooYork5022
April 25th '07, 05:10 PM
lol. stupid bushmen.

haha! i like our new camo but it's more suited for a cement parking lot than any kind of woodland.

Hells_Zargon
April 25th '07, 06:23 PM
Never in a billion years, even if conscription came in I'd be finding a way out of it.

xKGBxx
April 28th '07, 10:43 AM
yea i would love to join the coast guard or marines. ``semper fi marines kill em all``

Fez
April 30th '07, 01:17 AM
good for you but that sucks

Moon Tan
May 1st '07, 11:53 PM
Tough job, I wish you luck!

g36calex
May 2nd '07, 01:07 AM
Not to change your mind but be preped for the worst everyone says war sucks but when they say war sucks damnit, it sucks. Killing a person isnt what it is on tv, you'll gain friends then loose alot of them in the field and seriously you may loose yourself good luck thought. You'll need it.

Fez
May 2nd '07, 01:15 AM
eh, you'll gain alot of experience from that..
saying if you make it back. its still cool thou. it'd be exiting

g36calex
May 2nd '07, 01:20 AM
Eh, yeah true but you talk now its not very plesent when the bullets are flying at u, grenades going off bombs bein dropped and your friend you just survived 10 fire fights with just got shot and died in the same fox hole as you. Not saying this is gonna happen but its some what dramatic andyways if you every played paintball or airsoft youd know some what of what it feels like going out here real war woudl probly be like 50x worse but still.

ZooYork5022
May 2nd '07, 05:07 AM
military is good shit. but think really hard between marines and coast guard because the coast guard is really easy and you pretty much garanteed not to goto war, the marines are complete oposite.

Nintendus
May 2nd '07, 05:18 PM
Eh, yeah true but you talk now its not very plesent when the bullets are flying at u, grenades going off bombs bein dropped and your friend you just survived 10 fire fights with just got shot and died in the same fox hole as you. Not saying this is gonna happen but its some what dramatic andyways if you every played paintball or airsoft youd know some what of what it feels like going out here real war woudl probly be like 50x worse but still.
Surely this is all your conjecture? Why do you know more than he does?

If that's what he wants to do them fair enough, good luck :)

Fez
May 2nd '07, 08:42 PM
military is good shit. but think really hard between marines and coast guard because the coast guard is really easy and you pretty much garanteed not to goto war, the marines are complete oposite.

the few, the proud the marines. thats awsome. but dont you have to like go to war first and exceede from the rest to become a Marine or something like that?

g36calex
May 3rd '07, 01:44 AM
The marines have always had the saying that there better than all the other military groups eh that was years ago they still stand by it though i dont know why, there not much better than the actualy army, navy airforce, and airborn. They have a little more training and are usualy the ones to be put first into war or behind enemy lines so yeah they have braging rights. But no matter were your fighting your not gonna jump into a fox hole and be like holy shit your part of the airborn cant fight with you. In all it comes down to fight for your lives and if your fighting with some one that's on your side dont ask questions just stay alive. The groups differ a little in what people can do to, your not going to send the guy that has respitory problems in the marines to run 14 miles none stop you'll send him to intelegence or something, well thats alot said and there alot to saybut ill cut this paragraph off till the next responce.

g36calex
May 3rd '07, 01:49 AM
But dont you have urban camo.............Wow coming from the airsoft player.....

iaxa
May 4th '07, 05:55 AM
thats the bit that frightens me the most. where you could be talking to your friend and then just at the pull of a trigger he is gone. i have a great deal of respect to the men that join up it takes alot of guts to go there and when i join up i hope i cna have the same amount of courage that every one else has.