Making A Website!

[emobizznitch]

I've been trying really hard to make a website. Not only is it difficult to do the codes (I need help there) but it is almost impossible to find a free site. I need help finding the site first so if anyone knows any.. plz and thank you!

[fraggled]

Do what?

[emobizznitch]

a website.. like this one. I want like a forum and a chat room on it but I don't know how.

[fraggled]

a website.. like this one. I want like a forum and a chat room on it but I don't know how.

People thousands to do it but here are some resources I never tell my clients about.

http://www.phpbb.com/ (http://www.phpbb.com)< Free Forum Software
http://www.wordpress.org/ < Free Blogging / CMS software
http://themes.wordpress.org/ (http://themes.wordpress.net) < Free themes for your Wordpress Install

[emobizznitch]

thanks so much!!

[darkvirus]

try using joomla. I used it for www.frencity.net its awesome.

[fraggled]

try using joomla. I used it for www.frencity.net (http://www.frencity.net) its awesome.

The perfect example of why people pay me thousands to build them backends :|

[TvCokeCan]

The perfect example of why people pay me thousands to build them backends :|

Is it not correct morally to tell your clients all the options? I am 17 and I often create websites for clients and the first thing they ask me is how they can get it cheaper, I tell them as I want to really make sure they come back, sure we could all charge high prices to do something which really does not need doing, but does this put a black name over the industry?

[tvcokecan]

People thousands to do it but here are some resources I never tell my clients about.

Why don't you tell your clients? Even if they are not the best options, and even if they do decide to use it over your skills should they not be given the option of knowing? Reading over what you have said around this forum I see you really as being rather arrogent and while I feel my skills match yours at least, I don't think it is correct not to tell clients about every option they have, you not doing so can put a black sheet over the idustry!

[fraggled]

You can think your skills match mine all you want, but they probably don't even cut it close kid. Second, I think you need to might want to readjust your attitude, your a kid who can't even grip grammar and spelling, let alone program the applications I program on a daily basis. Third, and lastely, if you would have browsed my site, since you think you are so smart, you would have noticed that I promote those resources on my site, not that you have any fuckin sense. I don't have to tell my clients about these resources, my clients come to me with an idea in mind, its not my job to tell them what to do, its their job to tell me what to do, I discuss things yes, and I ONLY inform them of things of nature, if a client asks I will tell them yes, thats industry standard, but if a fuckin client doesn't ask its not my fuckin job to shove it down their throat, I suggest you stop confusing jokes with you trying to attack someone because your a clear idiot.

[tvcokecan]

I don't cut it close? Dude I own a internation search engine, tutorial index site, infact I own as of right now 33 websites that generate a average adsense income of over 1000 USD a day. You can't take that people also have the same skills as you and that really is somewhat upsetting to know. And well lets do a quick thing shall we:

your a kid = You're a kid
Third, and lastely = Third, and lastly
its not my job = it's not my job
thats industry standard = that's industry standard

Your not that great on the grammer side it either it seems! To use a statement such as your a kid who can't even grip grammer and spelling is insulting not just to me but to the tons of other coders out there.



if ( $jordon == "Arrogent" ) {
echo "Tell him to shut up being so arrogent and not being able \n
to accept anyone else can do things he can";
} else {
echo "There is a error in the script";
include "arrogenttext.php";
}
Don't get me wrong your portfolio site is nice and the use of ajax is great, but your not above everyone.

- Edit -

You know what, I am not going to start a argument, no matter what you say I have my skills and you have yours, what is the point of lowing ourselves into a bitch fight! I have just had a great idea for a new site thanks to you and wanting to prove you wrong, so in fact I owe you one!

[fraggled]

I don't cut it close? Dude I own a, tutorial index site, infact I own as of right now 33 websites that generate a average adsense income of over 1000 USD a day. You can't take that people also have the same skills as you and that really is somewhat upsetting to know. And well lets do a quick thing shall we:

your a kid = You're a kid
Third, and lastely = Third, and lastly
its not my job = it's not my job
thats industry standard = that's industry standard

Your not that great on the grammer side it either it seems! To use a statement such as your a kid who can't even grip grammer and spelling is insulting not just to me but to the tons of other coders out there.



if ( $jordon == "Arrogent" ) {
echo "Tell him to shut up being so arrogent and not being able \n
to accept anyone else can do things he can";
} else {
echo "There is a error in the script";
include "arrogenttext.php";
}
Don't get me wrong your portfolio site is nice and the use of ajax is great, but your not above everyone.


I don't claim to be above everyone, see thats the problem, people who claim other people have arrogance often assume, and aren't assumptions a key sign of arrogance? I just claim to have high skills, cockyness is of nature, but cockyness is not arrogance, if I thought I was above everyone, I wouldn't be friends with the people I fight with daily would I? I certainly wouldn't be here. Wow, good theory there.

You own an international search engine at 17 years old, I bet its also as big as Google or Yahoo? Or the next Microsoft. You know the key sign to saying somebody is lying is when they say international and their age is 17. I don't doubt that you have programmed a search engine but I question the fact that it is international, and even if it is, internationality implies that it reaches all markets in all languages not just one primary language.

"You can't take that people also have the same skills as you and that really is somewhat upsetting to know" If you had the same skills as me you would know the difference between response times and loading times right? You wouldn't also try to pull that bullshit that you did with Javascript HAVING to be put in the head right? Meh, you have clearly proven your point. yes yes you have ;)

[tvcokecan]

As I said I am not going to continue to talk to you, I am right about the JavaScript thing, anyone reading that would read it as being loading times. One day you will see your cockiness and arrogance is going to hit you on the head! Also you need to update your portfolio I am interested in your work. International implys nothing about size just language and reach, both of which it has.

[fraggled]

As I said I am not going to continue to talk to you, I am right about the JavaScript thing, anyone reading that would read it as being loading times. One day you will see your cockiness and arrogance is going to hit you on the head! Also you need to update your portfolio I am interested in your work. International implys nothing about size just language and reach, both of which it has.
I didn't say Internationality implies size, I do believe I stated the same as you ;), go back and read it please.

meh, response time is clearly the time it takes for your site to show a response, much like server response time (server latency) vs. server load time, these are things you should be explaining to your clients right? Response times are different then load times, its our job to know this and its our job to not care if people know this or not because if they wanted to know we can always go back and explain it, right? If you are right about the Javascript thing then prove me wrong, because you know, as long as I have been in this industry I have never heard someone say something like that and I have NEVER seen anything that couldn't be proven wrong, even me, I get proven wrong sometimes, but about this it would be interesting to see. By point your theory is clearly wrong since Prototype relies on the DOM to complete its actions, deeming that it relies on the DOM it would have to wait for response and load from the DOM correct? Which intern means that IT CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE DOM, which is why you have to strap Events and Triggers right? Were not talking about onclick triggers and events we are talking about onDomReady which I do believe Prototype waits for. By not only moving it right above the </body> tag (of which this theory has been expressed by the worlds best) no only do you relieve you having to use these onDomReady triggers but you reduce your code because you remove them. My goal was to show you can make your site respond quicker which intern means it will load quicker, if I throw 20 scripts into my header instead of my footer my site will slow its response because it has to wait for those external scripts to load. Your goal is to give the feeling of quick loading without having to create quick loading, yes you can clearly compress them, but even sometimes on sites like mine which rely on light but still extensive Ajax and Effects it will slow down the site extremely, my scripts total about I think 300kb which is a high amount, and this would kill my site for dialup users, which I don't want therefore I logically place them where they can be loaded last.

[Leon]

your a kid who can't even grip grammar and spelling*You're

your a kid = You're a kid
Third, and lastely = Third, and lastly
its not my job = it's not my job
thats industry standard = that's industry standard

Your not that great on the grammer side it either it seems!You missed one:
Grammer - Grammar

Now both of you shut the fuck up about grammar 'til you both learn how to spell.

Owned.

[Insomniac]

Hahaha, Jerry Leon Springer, go you!

[fraggled]

Now both of you shut the fuck up about grammar 'til you both learn how to spell.

Grammar != Spelling oh smart one of hobbit mannor. Therefore your owned (or if you properly wanted to implement it you should have said "pwned") status has just be revoked.

[i_love_u]

Grammar != Spelling oh smart one of hobbit mannor. Therefore your owned (or if you properly wanted to implement it you should have said "pwned") status has just be revoked.

you= you're

god...you guys need to all STFU everyone of you!!!! Plus, don't go complaining about one's grammar, when you, yourself did a grammar error. sheesh. May I say, "Bitch please?"

[fraggled]

1.) I dont remember correcting Leons Grammar
2.) Stay out of fights you don't belong in
3.) Dont confuse Grammar, Puncuation and Spelling
4.) Learn to leave shit the fuck alone, all you are doing is egging on a war which makes you an idiot.

[i_love_u]

1.) I dont remember correcting Leons Grammar
2.) Stay out of fights you don't belong in
3.) Dont confuse Grammar, Puncuation and Spelling
4.) Learn to leave shit the fuck alone, all you are doing is egging on a war which makes you an idiot.

1. I really couldn't care less if you did or didn't correct Leon's grammar, besides that's not even your job...ur only a member here. so don't go ahead and tell people who are much higher then you are!

2. I am not even getting into a fight, but you seem to be starting one on your own mr. smarty-ass.

3. How am I confusing it? btw, you spelt "punctuation" wrong.... hehehe

4. Wtf? You are a dumbass 21 yearold who wants to fight with someone who's probably more mature then you, and will always be more mature then you. Don't blame your actions on other people.

ps. if you have a problem with me, and want to deal with it, go ahead, send me a PM. but if you want to end this fight I suggest to you, to shut up.

[fraggled]

Me end the fight? I don't think you know shit about me, I am not willing to back down from some fool especially one who is so assumptious and lacks basic comprehension.


I am not even getting into a fight, but you seem to be starting one on your own mr. smarty-ass.

Wow you are smart arent you? You have so much sense that you figured out that if you jumped into places where you don't belong and then attacked me further then they already did that I wouldnt retaliate and respond? Thats like fuckin bombing my country and then expecting me not to take your entire country off the world map.

Then you called me immature when clearly you were the one who is because you jumped into places that you didnt belong and expected people to take your shit, let me get this one thing straight, you not only started the fight between me and you by commenting but you tried to put the blaim on me, let he who casts the first stone be innocent right?

By you jumping into this thread you should have fuckin known, by you supposidly having a god given ability to think clearly that it would egg me on and that I would comment because some idiot thinks its their business to jump in. Not only did you clearly point the finger at me and blaim it all on me because im the asshole in this situation but you sat there and use your idiot ways to again put all the blaim on me, but see your an idiot so you don't know who started this fight. I suggest you shut the fuck up.

I also suggest you look at who started the whole fight far before Leon even came in,I accept Leon, hes cool, hes smart, but you, your just another fuckin idiot who thinks its your business to jump into places you don't belong, another supposed god given ability of which you have yet again disproved.


ps. if you have a problem with me, and want to deal with it, go ahead, send me a PM


Why the fuck would I P.M. you, its a waste of my fuckin time to even P.M. not only because you have pissed me off and there is no turning back but because I don't need to deal with you, you will deal with yourself as you try and argue your pointless arguments with me.

[Bob!]

Bloody hell guys this is the coding section, therefore Syntax > Grammar.

Keep it down please and carry on with the codin.

[i_love_u]

Sorry about that Bob, didn't mean to argue with that low life. I just couldn't stand there and let him piss me off. I won't ever talk to him again.

[Leon]

I was just simply pointing out how stupid and ironic it was that you were mocking each others grammar and/or spelling, while at the same time getting it wrong yourselves.
I don't have perfect grammar myself and wasn't trying to show off, just pointing out how petty people were being.

[fraggled]

Sorry about that Bob, didn't mean to argue with that low life. I just couldn't stand there and let him piss me off. I won't ever talk to him again.
Don't be a stupid bitch. Get over yourself. Go get a make over or something because all you did was appologize and then continue on making insults which makes you VERY immature unlike what you implied you weren't in your previous comments, you hypocrit.


I was just simply pointing out how stupid and ironic it was that you were mocking each others grammar and/or spelling, while at the same time getting it wrong yourselves.
I don't have perfect grammar myself and wasn't trying to show off, just pointing out how petty people were being.
Eh, no worries Leon, Im not bothered by you.

[i_love_u]

Don't be a stupid bitch.

Excuse me? If I were a dog, I probably wouldn't be able to go on the forums let alone the computer. If you're going to call me a bitch, you might as well call me one in front of my face you fucking pussy. By the way, I am not your mother, so you don't need to call me a bitch.

[fraggled]

I call it as I see it, and you look like a Dog so I called it. Now I suggest you leave me the fuck alone because I don't feel like getting into trouble because you want to carry on fights like a child.