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blank.77
June 14th '07, 06:35 AM
Simple question, which one are you?

Im a Democrat.

Leon
June 14th '07, 11:43 PM
I posted don't care, guess why?

Bob!
June 15th '07, 12:27 AM
I posted don't care, guess why?
Yer a Liberal?

Leon
June 15th '07, 10:55 AM
Sadly, no.

fraggled
June 15th '07, 01:17 PM
You just dont give a shit like me :> You go off your own damn theorys!!!!111!!!

Kate
June 15th '07, 04:20 PM
I voted Democracy, although personally i like the sound of submissive anarchy :)

Singletary
June 15th '07, 08:34 PM
I voted Republican. I do disagree with the whole idea of being over there in Iraq, and other places. However, we have done too much to give up now. We need to finish what we've started.

fraggled
June 15th '07, 08:39 PM
How can you be republican and say that? If you are a republican and disagree with the ideas wouldn't that make you a liberal? You are still a traditionalist in a sense but more of a neo-traditionalist.

Singletary
June 15th '07, 08:49 PM
Well I agree with everything else Republicans usually believe in. Not all Republicans favor the war.

blank.77
June 16th '07, 10:08 AM
amdfan.
you have an opinion on everything.
you really must be a robot,
with a brain of an encyclopedia,
because you seem to know everything.

hm.

fraggled
June 16th '07, 10:37 AM
While you may feel that way, all I have to say is, if you would have or do pay attention in school you would know the same things I do :), lets see, you learn the basics of political systems in Senior Year when you take US Government, you take computers which teaches you the basics (or should) of processors, you take Graphics Design which will teach you design and basic JavaScript. You take US History which teachs you, well, US History :\ and you take World History which well, oddly enough teaches you world history, that and not all of us have time to go be kids some of us have this thing called a job. I spend majority of my time working on computers (programming them to say the least) and doing R&D to build these sites, this "R&D" can range from anything to researching why people assume because somebody knows a little bit that everybody thinks they know everything to why people don't pay attention in class and then blaim the people who actually achieved something in life all the way to things like, why did Germanium Diodes not make it as a fabrication method for Diodes (other then basic radios and other things) when its capabilities far surpass that of Silicon or why does the Time Space Continuum remain as one in the same. Then there are places like MIT (http://mit.edu/) that are the world leaders in Science and release these little things my industry calls white papers, these are papers chaulked full of hardcore raw data FTW, its not like a harry potter book mind you, and sometimes peole like (me?) read these because its a hobby. The same goes for just about every other major reasearch company, the all release white papers, and I would believe they release them for us to read, or maybe just to waiste paper?

blank.77
June 16th '07, 11:15 AM
I did, and still do pay attention in class... You cant get a 4.0 just by slacking...

I just dont act like i know everything.
I debate and give my honest opinion,
and i just think its BS how basiclly every single thing you post on, you act EXACTLY like you know what your talking about, and in all reality, you dont.

Im not saying that its a bad thing that you do this,
but cant you make your point, without seeming like you know exactly what your talking about? It comes off very stand-offish, i guess, and makes you seem like an ass...

I know alot of things about, well, alot of things, but when i make my point i dont make it seem like i know exactly what im talking about. When i know what im talking about, then i know, and i dont care.

but in most of the posts ive read of yours, you probably only know exactly what your talking about in half....


I do give you props in pollictics though, your a good debater, and i can understand yours posts in this section because your more of a, i guess, freemason? you make your own judgements and have your own views..

fraggled
June 16th '07, 12:44 PM
I did, and still do pay attention in class... You cant get a 4.0 just by slacking...
Yes you can, I did all the way through Junior High ;)



I just dont act like i know everything.

Because somebody is blunt, states stuff and participates in every debate that means they "think" they know everything? Comon I thought you had a 4.0 GPA, you should have more sense then that :\, I think the whole point of DEBATING is to argue the facts as if you know what you are talking about and its even better when you do know what your talking about, again, I spend my life researching and learning, do you?



I debate and give my honest opinion,

The point of most debates is to argue fact and opinion, if someone states fact as opinion thats not wrong, and you can say "well you always act like you know what your talking about", never, no where, did I EVER say I know everything in the world ;), again, this falls under the, "because somebody posts into every debate, they must think they know everything" theory.



and i just think its BS how basiclly every single thing you post on, you act EXACTLY like you know what your talking about, and in all reality, you dont.


I love how everybody tries to put me through a physcology session, this shit is just fucking hilarious sometimes. I should start saving these in a corrospondance part of my site.

Funny thing is, unless your sitting here in front of one of my Two 20.1 Inch 2007WFP Hi-Def LCD monitors on my Quad SLI Quad Core AMD how would you know I act like I know "EXACTLY" what I'm talking about, I assume you got that 4.0 GPA by participating in this funny thing I like to call research, I know its a rather broad subject to most, and the ones who clearly don't participate in this Jedi like art talk shit on the ones who do and I know its not that hard to kick up google and do a query search on a subject? The funny thing is, I find it funny how people attack me because they assume shit, but then come to find out, they are just to fucking stupid to Google it. Reminds me of Mac, "Its just to fucking simple".



Im not saying that its a bad thing that you do this,


I think you have clearly contradicted yourself here, if you didn't think it was a bad thing you wouldn't have shot off at the mouth like you did.



but cant you make your point, without seeming like you know exactly what your talking about?

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I'm going to take a wild guess. Because I don't put LOL 20 times in a sentance or ROFL 1000 times in a paragraph and I make blunt statements I think I know what I'm talking about? You want me to be less blunt (of which I won't be because personally, I don't give a shit if you like me or not), you want me to stop loading up google and typing in queries and just guess and then put ?????? 20 times in a sentance or you want me to basically just walk around doubting myself like the typical American?


It comes off very stand-offish, i guess, and makes you seem like an ass...

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I am a fuckin asshole, ask any one of my friends, I am NOT a nice guy, I am blunt, I am to the point, I don't beat around the bush like the common American. I AM A VERY SERIOUS KIND OF PERSON. I only joke around with CERTAIN people, and those people know who they are ;), and I only act nice to CERTAIN people, and again, those people know who they are ;), mostly because these people have something that makes me like them. It could be that they don't talk shit behind peoples backs or it could be simply just because we share common interests. Or it could be at the least, they constantly make me laugh.

People don't like me because I am blunt. Again, I state, I am NOT your mother therefore it is not my job to make you happy. If you want somebody to make you happy, to say nice things or to make things sound not-so-blunt, get a wife, get a girlfriend or go talk to your mom, I am just not that person.

If you don't like it the the simple solution is -> :suicide:



I know alot of things about, well, alot of things, but when i make my point i dont make it seem like i know exactly what im talking about.

Points are points, beating around the bush is a circle, making broad generalized statements eats ass ;). Maybe you should try being more blunt? Shit or get off the pot is all I have to say.



When i know what im talking about, then i know, and i dont care.

:bs:my bullshit meter is going off the hook, how do you type out the expression of not acting like you don't know what you are talking about?

AND if you didn't care you clearly wouldn't have mentioned "your" 4.0 GPA either. Thats like me saying I don't brag about my AMD and big ass monitors and that I don't brag, am not proud and do not live the life of a true geek.



but in most of the posts ive read of yours, you probably only know exactly what your talking about in half....


My bullshit meter just broke. How do you know this? Again are you sitting on my bad ass computer running it for me, I am looking for a new assistant, this would give you the opportunity to get a bad ass computer like mine, that aside though, the fact that you don't try and "debate" with me shows you are clearly full of shit.



I do give you props in pollictics though, your a good debater, and i can understand yours posts in this section because your more of a, i guess, freemason? you make your own judgements and have your own views..

Debate is not about politics, you have to debate in life in general. You debate to get a job whether or not you recodnize it, simply because there are 20 other applicants, the best debator gets the job, you debate in your mind what to eat for lunch, you debate about what computer to get, what girl you like the most, why the world is so assumptious and so forth.

What does me being blunt have to do with being a freemason, while I do live an ethical life and I do try and help everybody that needs help when they ask me, but because a few presidants (sp?) and political figures throughout the world are freemasons everybody who is a freemason has to be politically aimed? The society is based on Christian rules, while one of the rules is to not oppose our government and to support it, that is not the initiative of the group.

Fez
June 16th '07, 05:31 PM
America, the best?
No.

Nice simple staright to the point answer. seriously Jordon, why can your answers be shorter. :please!:

Nintendus
June 16th '07, 05:44 PM
Nice simple staright to the point answer. seriously Jordon, why can your answers be shorter. :please!:
Some people believe superfluous answers make them look intelligent? :P

fraggled
June 16th '07, 06:21 PM
You have a lot of room to talk there Nintendus :\ on that note, some people use big words because they think it makes them look intelligant :P and some people don't like to leave broad open-ended statements they would rather take the time to make a full statement with examples and a full explanation ;)

Kate
June 16th '07, 06:25 PM
Nice simple staright to the point answer. seriously Jordon, why can your answers be shorter. :please!:

I know what you mean.
I don't bother reading those long ass replies.

fraggled
June 16th '07, 06:29 PM
Neither do I :\, actually, most of the time I just start typing and keep on going till I feel my point has been made. Maybe it happens because I am used to writing 20 page letters explaining why something happend, when, where, specifically, examples, and sometimes even recreating the incident on paper.

@fez that was because everybody seems to think I always think I know what I'm talking about because I fight or I say something I know a little bit about or something, but they are always clearly mistaken because I like the rest of the world can be proven wrong :\

Nintendus
June 16th '07, 07:46 PM
You have a lot of room to talk there Nintendus :\ on that note, some people use big words because they think it makes them look intelligant :P Yep, I meant is as sarcasm 'cause I do it as well. XD. Wasn't taking a jab at ya.

fraggled
June 16th '07, 08:03 PM
xD

Deimos
June 17th '07, 06:41 AM
The formal fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy) of false dilemma—also known as false choice, false dichotomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichotomy), falsified dilemma, fallacy of the excluded middle, black and white thinking, false correlative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlative_based_fallacies), either/or fallacy, and bifurcation—involves a situation in which two alternative statements are held to be the only possible options, when in reality there exist one or more other options which have not been considered.

Niles
June 19th '07, 02:06 PM
That would be true, but then there are more than two statements to choose from.

I would say I would be a Republican if I was American, as I believe in individualism, low taxation, and put a great deal of emphasis on a strong economy.

tf_arl_90
June 21st '07, 03:27 PM
Wow. Ok. lol

Anyway, there are so many different categories. You list liberal but not conservative? How about Libertarian? Statist? These are the most general ones I think.

I consider myself neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I tend to lean left on a lot of issues, but I don't match up completely with the "typical" viewpoints, and most likely wouldn't vote for a candidate just because he's a Democrat.