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Josh182
July 17th '07, 11:05 PM
WASHINGTON - Al-Qaida is using its growing strength in Pakistan and Iraq to plot attacks on U.S. soil, heightening the terror threat facing the United States over the next few years, intelligence agencies concluded in a report unveiled Tuesday.

At the same time, the intelligence analysts worry that international cooperation against terrorism will be hard to sustain as memories of Sept. 11 fade and nations' views diverge on what the real threat is.
In the National Intelligence Estimate prepared for President Bush and other top policymakers, analysts laid out a range of dangers — from al-Qaida to Lebanese Hezbollah to non-Muslim radical groups — that pose a "persistent and evolving threat" to the country over the next three years.

The findings focused most heavily on Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network, which was judged to remain the most serious threat to the United States. The group's affiliate in Iraq, which has not yet posed a direct threat to U.S. soil, could do just that, the report concluded. Al-Qaida in Iraq threatened to attack the United States in a Web statement last September.

National Intelligence Council Chairman Thomas Fingar warned that the group's operatives in Iraq are getting portable, firsthand experience in covert communications, smuggling, improvised explosive devices, understanding U.S. military tactics and more.
The Iraqi affiliate also helps al-Qaida more broadly as it tries to energize Sunni Muslim extremists around the globe, raise resources and recruit and indoctrinate operatives — "including for homeland attacks," according to a declassified summary of the report's main findings.

In addition, analysts stressed the importance of al-Qaida's increasingly comfortable hideout in Pakistan that has resulted from a hands-off accord between Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and tribal leaders along the Afghan border. That 10-month-old deal, which has unraveled in recent days, gave al-Qaida new opportunities to set up compounds for terror training, improve its international communications with associates and bolster its operations.

The assessment shows how the threat has changed.
Just two years ago, the intelligence agencies considered al-Qaida's various "franchises" decentralized offshoots, with bin Laden mostly providing ideological direction.
Fingar said his experts believe bin Laden and his top deputy are hiding in Pakistan. "There is no question that the ungoverned character of the space is a major factor in the Taliban's and al-Qaida's and other extremist groups' ability to hide — hide in plain sight," he said.

National Intelligence Estimates are the most authoritative written judgments of the 16 spy agencies across the breadth of the U.S. government. These documents reflect the consensus long-term thinking of top intelligence analysts.
Tuesday's publicly disclosed judgments are part of a more expansive, still-classified document, approved by the heads of all 16 intelligence agencies on June 21.
Analysts — who concluded the U.S. now faces a "heightened threat environment" — painted an increasingly familiar picture of al-Qaida: A group focused on high-profile attacks against political, economic and infrastructure targets, while striving to cause mass casualties and dramatic destruction.

FBI Deputy Director John Pistole said the bureau does not know of any al-Qaida cells in the United States, although his agents continue investigating such questions. The estimate said international counterterrorism efforts since 2001 have hampered al-Qaida's ability to attack the United States again, while also convincing terror groups that U.S. soil is a tougher target.
Charles Allen, the Department of Homeland Security's top intelligence official, said the department isn't changing the nation's threat level, which remains at yellow, or "elevated" — the middle of a five-point scale. Airlines remain one step higher, at orange.

Even as authorities warn of dangers in the U.S., analysts concluded the threat is more severe in Europe. The problem could touch the United States directly, Fingar noted, because of the ease of travel between Europe and here.
The White House sought to downplay the report's worries about the future of international counterterrorism cooperation. Bush's homeland security adviser, Frances Fragos Townsend, said the administration isn't concerned about being abandoned by allies. Cooperation is "actually as strong as it's ever been," she said.


The Bush administration also brushed off critics who say the administration released the intelligence estimate now to help its case as the Senate debates whether to withdraw troops from Iraq. White House press secretary Tony Snow said critics are "engaged in a little selective hearing ... to shape the story in their own political ways."
Meanwhile, Democrats said the report was proof that U.S. anti-terrorism efforts are being drained by the Iraq war.
House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton, D-Mo., called on the U.S. to "responsibly redeploy" its troops from Iraq and turn security over to the Iraqis. "In hindsight, we should have concentrated our efforts on al-Qaida in Afghanistan from the beginning," he said.

Significant debate in recent weeks has focused on the genesis of the al-Qaida threat in Iraq and the nature of its links to al-Qaida's leaders. With the intelligence report's release, Bush sought to draw the threat in Iraq closer to bin Laden. "These people have sworn allegiance to the very same man who ordered the attack on September the 11th, 2001," he said.

At a briefing and in a later interview, Ted Gistaro, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats, said al-Qaida in Iraq did not have any active cells when the U.S. invaded in March 2003. He said the watershed moment was when its now-deceased leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, declared his allegiance to bin Laden in an October 2004 Internet message.
Beyond al-Qaida, the report also laid out three other potential terror threats to the country:
_Lebanese Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim extremist group, may be more likely to consider attacking here, especially if it believes the United States is directly threatening the group or its main sponsor, Iran.
_The number of homegrown extremists in the U.S. and its Western allies is growing, fueled by Internet web sites and anti-American rhetoric. _So-called "single issue" terrorist groups probably will attack here on a smaller scale. They include white supremacists, anarchists and animal rights groups, such as Animal Liberation Front.

-Yahoo

So, Here we go again. Hopefully nothing happens. But, that probably wont be the case, I'm afraid. Thoughts?

Spazzy
July 17th '07, 11:12 PM
Ummm my thought:

Thank God I live in Arkansas....far far away from civilization....

Leon
July 17th '07, 11:51 PM
This is of course the same intelligence that said they had weapons of mass destruction I assume?

Josh182
July 18th '07, 12:14 AM
Pfft, I don't know, I'm just sick of the terrorism garbage already.

Kate
July 24th '07, 07:56 PM
LOLOL.
Good.

Josh182
July 24th '07, 08:25 PM
? Good for another terrorist attack?

fraggled
July 24th '07, 08:25 PM
OH NOES THEY GOTZ WMDs WUR GUNNA DIEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!1

Pearson
July 24th '07, 09:45 PM
Don't no about the US but there's been plenty of terrorist attacks in Britain that have been stopped recently, in Glasgow two Muslim's tried to blow them selves up in the airport, killing loads of people, but they just ended up setting themselves on fire. Somebody tried to set off a car bomb out side TigerTiger night club in London, apparently many Muslim extremist have been planning attacks outside nightclubs because they go against everything Muslim, but this got stopped and in London again a car bomb was found, quite oddly because the terrorist had parked illegally lol! There's been plenty of attacks here that have been foiled. Don't no about the US but the UK has a huge Muslim poppulation, mainly in Industrial areas. All these attacks were caused by British citezons...4 Doctors was even behind one!

Kate
July 24th '07, 09:53 PM
? Good for another terrorist attack?

Yup, as long as you don't fill our news channels with your annoying whinging about them afterwards.

Pearson
July 24th '07, 10:11 PM
Yup, as long as you don't fill our news channels with your annoying whinging about them afterwards.

That'll deffiantly happen. Then someone will make a film about it. Then there'll be a relief concert were Pop-stars will think that they're helping the world become a better place. Then some more people will whinge. Then somebody will say that the government actually did it. Then someone will make a film about that. Then people will get stupidly patriotic. Then we wont hear the end of the bloody thing.

Kate
July 24th '07, 10:14 PM
That'll deffiantly happen. Then someone will make a film about it. Then there'll be a relief concert were Pop-stars will think that they're helping the world become a better place. Then some more people will whinge. Then somebody will say that the government actually did it. Then someone will make a film about that. Then people will get stupidly patriotic. Then we wont hear the end of the bloody thing.

Oh bloody hell - The World Trade Center film. We sat on the back row practically wetting ourselves for the entire duration of the technicolour jesus part.
It never ceases to amaze me how even Americans can be as shallow as to make money out of 3000 deaths..

Josh182
July 24th '07, 10:17 PM
........ Okay....

fraggled
July 24th '07, 11:40 PM
That'll deffiantly happen. Then someone will make a film about it. Then there'll be a relief concert were Pop-stars will think that they're helping the world become a better place. Then some more people will whinge. Then somebody will say that the government actually did it. Then someone will make a film about that. Then people will get stupidly patriotic. Then we wont hear the end of the bloody thing.


Good thing we don't rely on you to make informed and intelligant statements.

Kate
July 25th '07, 12:04 PM
It is true though, you don't see the British making a film about the 7/7 bombings, or the glasgow airport attempted attack, or the Manchester bombings etc etc.
Yes, we make documentaries, but we don't make mass amounts of money out of them, selling the stories of peoples loss :/

fraggled
July 25th '07, 02:48 PM
That's not the point, the point is, he holds America it's self responsible for this. As if the whole country is out doing it, just because a few rich-er people are doing it. If we clearly wanted to head into this direction we could bring up how your intelligance doesn't seem to be stopping it point blank because there are still mass attempts and how the US is building your new missle defense system to protect you because you guys can't do it.

Kate
July 25th '07, 05:31 PM
Meh, make the US out to be as fantastic as you want, at least most of the middle east don't want us dead. Most of our terroists live in Britain.

fraggled
July 25th '07, 06:53 PM
Well, you and me both know the US isn't fantastic :\, far from it, it's the fact that not everyone here is like that. So if you imply (not you but pearsons) as so.

Bob!
July 25th '07, 08:15 PM
in Glasgow two Muslim's tried to blow them selves up in the airport, killing loads of people, but they just ended up setting themselves on fire.
Hahahahahhaha thats brilliant, self pwnt.

Stupid fucking terrorists. :D

Pearson
July 25th '07, 08:21 PM
Patriotism blinds Amvidian, was a joke youth, bout how the world looks at you, bout what people in other nations see.

News filters through to Britain about terrorist attacks and it's not a reaction that we're used to seeing. British telivision would interview people, they would try to hold it together, try to battle the tears and hold them back, eventually look away, ask the guy to stop filming. American's do it a bit differently, burst out to tears in the first sentance and start shouting in a seemingly rehearts manner, 'WHY GOD WHY? WHY DID YOU DO IT? WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?' Cry a bit more, meanwhile they'll be violins playing in the background, Kelly Clarkson will appear on a stage playing her latest single, followed by 50 cent 'yeah mother fooker yeah, mother fucker bitch,' The camera will pan to the old stars and stripes....few years later they'll be a film. I'm not having a go at America here. Im just pointing out the difference in the way people react to a disaster in the two countries from what we see. British people will watch the America reaction in shock when eventually someone will say, shaking their head, 'Americans!'

Im not saying that's how all Americans react, thats the images we get sent to us in the UK. That's how our country, and most countries see your nation. You can disagree with me, but we'd probably be argueing different points.