9/11 Conspiracy

[Luke]

For years now, I have believed that the 9/11 attacks were not by al-qaeda but by the corrupt US government itself. Here is a video which wipes out the theory that the pentagon was not hit by boeing 757 plane as said but something else on that September morning.

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main

[Sponge'K'nob]

hmmmm interesting, i didnt watch it all....didnt no how long i would last, but still....interesting.
arent they like trying to solve anythign like after these few years.
tell ya, government shite these days

[Bob!]

I've heard o this before, no view on it though as I dont really know enough.

Want me to whap it into debates?

[NATAL!E]

I am very open-minded about a lot of things. And this video was absolutely amazing.

It really does prove just how much the government cover things up. I've never heard anything about this. But it's so damn enlightening and eye-opening.

No one has ever cared to say 'Where was the plane then?', even though it was obviously no where to be found. Such obvious questions, but they have chosen to be ignored by the US government.

It could also link into the ideas about Bush going into Iraq just to gain oil, and making up those allogations about nuclear weapons.. Which funnily enough, wer never found either.

So it brings to light the questions - Has Bush made all this stuff up about Al-Quaeda? Has he pretended that a terrorist group have continued to attack the US, when it wasn't them? Or has it been another terrorist group people aren't aware of? Was it really Al-Quaeda?

Only opinions and judgements can really answer these questions, until America actually decide to be truthful, tell people what's happening instead of covering everything up with flase accusations about nuclear weapons and God knows what else..

[Luke]

The twin towers were insured for $20 billion just 2 months before the "terrorist" attacks,

[~Wayne~]

There is plenty of ways you can look at things like this, and its too confusing on deciding on which one you choose :/

[Azaghal]

>_>

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[Luke]

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Cheers youth

[EssixOwl]

And Tony Blair is an alien from Jupiter...it was a terrorist attack, yep, not a conspiracy theory by the brightest minds in the current world, but a simple selection of crazy fuckers deciding to blow the fuck out of something. It just seemed a perfect excuse to jump on 'I hate Bush' bandwagon for some, hence the emergence of all these 'rumours'.

Good theories nevertheless.

[Luke]

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[NATAL!E]

You know. At the last election thing. My dad said, "If Bush gets back in power. It's going to be the end of the world." And that's something I've never forgotten, because I realised at the time. It is so possible.

Bush is all about want, want, want. He wanted oil, so he began a war with Iraq. it wasn't even needed really.

And look at the state of Iraq now-a-days.

He does more harm than good.

I swear. If he carries on like this, WW3 will begin. And with today's technology. It'll be total war. Mass destruction. Nuclear attacks.

I'm still in disbelief how they ended up with a president like him tbh. =/

[Patriot1776]

Could you please stop trying to always make America look bad.

[The Wheel]

Your outrageous feeblemindedness confounds me. Anyone can admit that the pentagon attack was strange. But you have obviously not managed to muster up enough brain power to put two and two together:

there are many records to show exactly who funded and who executed the terrorist attacks. George kept reading the book to not alarm the children and damage their minds forever, it's the option of the parent as to whether the child should know something happened and he knew that. I will not tolerate you insulting my country like that.


You know. At the last election thing. My dad said, "If Bush gets back in power. It's going to be the end of the world." And that's something I've never forgotten, because I realised at the time. It is so possible.

Bush is all about want, want, want. He wanted oil, so he began a war with Iraq. it wasn't even needed really.
Iraq is better then ever!
There have been multiple elections for which ANYONE can vote at. Women are much more free and they are happier then ever. Let me remind you, America is not the only country with units there.

[Luke]

I'm not trying to make America look bad. Conspiracies interest me. This is one of the biggest conspiracy theories ever. It's incredible and it's one I believe.

The_Wheel, you had no right to remove my post. It's my opinion and on a forum, I expect free speech.

[Luke]

Iraq is better then ever!
There have been multiple elections for which ANYONE can vote at. Women are much more free and they are happier then ever. Let me remind you, America is not the only country with units there.

Because of George Bush, hundreds of thousands of people have paid with their lives. Mothers have lost their sons in an unneccesary war. George Bush is clueless.

[Bob!]

Moved to debates.

Now as long theres nothin thats meant to insult or goes too far, ya can give ya own opinions fully, just keep em civilised please and respect the views of others as well. :)

[Luke]

Moved to debates.

Now as long theres nothin thats meant to insult or goes too far, ya can give ya own opinions fully, just keep em civilised please and respect the views of others as well. :)

Cheers Bob!. I will respect other peoples opinions. I don't believe The_Wheel respected mine though by deleting it.

[Boy_Wonder06]

as far as im concerned, no matter what it was it shouldnt have happened, so many innocent ppl died that day, teh governemtn has ways of dealign with situations, except the USA sucks and there governemt only cares about themselves. Down with George BUsh, why do terroists neva kill the but heads u wana get rid of ... sorri silly harsh joke.

[Patriot1776]

Well going around saying America has the most corrupt government in the world wasn't exactly voicing this in a civilized way.

[Luke]

Well going around saying America has the most corrupt government in the world wasn't exactly voicing this in a civilized way.

Now you're putting words into my mouth! I said they a corrupt government. Not the most corrupted in the world.

[EssixOwl]

You know. At the last election thing. My dad said, "If Bush gets back in power. It's going to be the end of the world." And that's something I've never forgotten, because I realised at the time. It is so possible.

Bush is all about want, want, want. He wanted oil, so he began a war with Iraq. it wasn't even needed really.

And look at the state of Iraq now-a-days.

He does more harm than good.

I swear. If he carries on like this, WW3 will begin. And with today's technology. It'll be total war. Mass destruction. Nuclear attacks.

I'm still in disbelief how they ended up with a president like him tbh. =/

*shakes head*

Patriot is the only person I agree with here, maybe some people on here should read alot more into current affairs before posting mindless drivvle....I'm sorry, but some people are really clueless....

Do you all read The Sun by any chance?

[Luke]

*shakes head*

Patriot is the only person I agree with here, maybe some people on here should read alot more into current affairs before posting mindless drivvle....I'm sorry, but some people are really clueless....

Do you all read The Sun by any chance?

It's not drivel. You just can't see past the "unbelievable" if you like. You think what you are told to think. If you have even bothered to look this conspiracy up, you will find the evidence is overwhelming.

[*Jess*]

if i lived in america, i would have exactly the same views as i do now. saying their government is quite bad, is not reflecting the whole country.
personally i love america, but i think george bush makes the wrong decisions a lot and their government, to put it lightly, could be better.
I even think that about england.
for some things im a strict anarchist.
and I do not believe the FBI should keep a secret that affects the entire world from the world.
it is better to know the truth.
and i believe that video by the way. i dont know whether it is entirely what happened in 9/11 but i do find it amazing and has very strong evidencial proof of the opposite to what we have been told about 9/11

[timswfc]

nah this is a loada balls....they defo wunt blow em sens up!

[Luke]

nah this is a loada balls....they defo wunt blow em sens up!

They didn't blow themselves up. They blew other people up. :)

[Pearson]

I watched that film on it wit fat guy that complains alot. I don't r8 understand it but there wa summat were Bush said, the only way I could get the nation to unite and fight a war (for oil) is if we have a national crisis. (that was before 9/11) still seems a strange reason to blow ya sen up for oil!

[Patriot1776]

Either way. There are better ways to get your point across.

[Luke]

Either way. There are better ways to get your point across.

Example?

Go on. :)

[timswfc]

well it is themselves that they have blown up...their own people...i dnt fink they wud dream of doing it...they hav enough money as it is without tryin 2 do it all 4 money

[Luke]

well it is themselves that they have blown up...their own people...i dnt fink they wud dream of doing it...they hav enough money as it is without tryin 2 do it all 4 money

What about oil?

[Patriot1776]

Example?

Go on. :)

Just look at how Jess did it.

She expressed her views without just shouting accusations.

[Luke]

Just look at how Jess did it.

She expressed her views without just shouting accusations.

Conspiracies are accusations though. I can hardly talk about a conspiracy theory with accusing someone of doing something. Do you understand now?

[Patriot1776]

I mean accusations such as "America is corrupt"

Saying that there is a conspiracy is a bit different.

Not entirely, but not nearly as offensive.

[Brianna.]

I'm sorry, but there was no conspiricy about this. I understand where you're coming from, but it didn't happen.

I'm from New York...I lost ALOT of friends in that attack. Our government IS corrupt...without a doubt, but I don't think that they would purposly knock down two monuments for the soul purpose of attacking Iraq.

[Patriot1776]

We probably would have invaded Iraq anyways.

9/11 most likely just sped up Bush's decision.

[Brianna.]

I understand that...He's a fuckin' oil tycoon. His whole administration is...and he follows in his daddys footsteps...I'm just saying that this whole tragidy wasen't staged.

[God.]

....and with all due respect, your government system ensres that if you ain't rich, your chances in life are severely limited, i mean SEVERELY. In addition, your own congress is imploding, with many congressmen being investigated for fraud, and slanderous comments being thrown all over the place, prompting the Democrats to propose a bill to stop (or at least try to) corruption.


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US Democratic Party targets graft

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40681000/jpg/_40681954_abramoff_ap_203body.jpg Jack Abramoff will now co-operate with investigators

The Democratic Party in the US has launched a scathing attack on what it calls a culture of corruption created by the country's Republican Party. Senior Democrats have unveiled an Honest Leadership and Open Government Act - legislation which they say will bring an end to the corruption.
Earlier this week Republicans announced their own package of reforms, including a ban on politicians receiving gifts.
The move follows a corruption scandal spawned by a powerful lobbyist.
The Democratic attack was led by the Senate minority leader Harry Reid.
'Ethical cloud'
Mr Reid was flanked by other leading party members, including the Democratic leader in the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, as he spoke of the proposed legislation in the Library of Congress.
Mr Reid said that during his long career in politics he had never felt as distressed and concerned as he did now.
He spoke of the culture of corruption he felt had infested government, and how change was now vital.
Ms Pelosi echoed his sentiments, speaking of an ethical cloud hanging over the capital and describing the current Congress as the most closed and corrupt in history.
"The American people deserve a Congress that represents the interest of everyday people," Ms Pelosi said.
Buying political influence
The legislation being introduced would ban all lobbyists from offering gifts and free travel to politicians and seeks tighter controls on the movement of staff from jobs on Capitol Hill to lucrative lobbying posts.
The BBC's Daniela Relph in Washington says the legislation aims to bring an end to cronyism, pledging to make sure that every individual appointed to a position has the right credentials.
On Tuesday, Republicans in the US Congress unveiled their own package of anti-corruption reforms.
House of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert promoted laws that would stop lobbyists paying for lunches, or arranging "fact-finding" trips for politicians to warm-weather resorts.
"A member of Congress should be able to accept a baseball cap... from the proud students of a local middle school, but he... doesn't need to be taken to... dinner by a Washington lobbyist," he said.
The moves come after the guilty plea on corruption charges by lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Abramoff was accused of using gifts of money, foreign trips and lavish meals to buy political influence.
Under the terms of a plea bargain, Abramoff will now co-operate with a probe into alleged corruption among Congress members.
The US justice department is believed to be investigating as many as 20 members of Congress and aides, with some Democrats also said to be implicated in the scandal.

[Luke]

Bush is in Iraq for oil, nothing more.

[EssixOwl]

Bush is in Iraq for oil, nothing more.

So getting rid of a repressive regime was just a bonus then?

[Luke]

So getting rid of a repressive regime was just a bonus then?

Yes. Saddam is gone, Iraq has a new president. Why are they still there?

[Patriot1776]

There police force and military still need a bit more training.

Actually, a Constitution has not yet been drafted so any leader at this point is not permanent.

Saddam may be out of power, but the 10% minority(Sunni) is still there.

[Luke]

Fuck George Bush. Simply the worlds biggest terrorist.

[Boy_Wonder06]

fcuk for forest i agree, george bush is the fukin terroist, his the one terroising innocent peoples lifes.

[EssixOwl]

Yes. Saddam is gone, Iraq has a new president. Why are they still there?

SSSHHHEEESSSHH!

Don't they teach you ANYTHING in Schools these days?

Iraq has been under a dictatorship for many decades & removing their repressive leader doesn't just mean everything's going to be ok & back to a democratic state. As we've seen the Iraqi Police Force isn't capable at keeping order on there own, hence the further unvolvement of international troops.

You can't just remove a dictator & then everything will pan out for the good. It takes time, resources & co-operation....a perfect example is early 20th century Germany.

I'm sorry, but it seems all you lot see is 'War' & 'America' & instantly think 'oh my god Bush must be in it for something to destroy a country.'

He may not be a brilliant President, but a lot of shit he gets is from people with little intelligence to formulate there own views that they jump on the 'we hate America/Bush' bandwagon formed by the biggest idiots of all....*drum roll* the MEDIA!

[Pearson]

f*ck George Bush. Simply the worlds biggest terrorist.

lol, this reminds me of south park last night, blaming everything on george bush, south park can teach us all alot. At the end of the day, and i know this might sound wrong, and i couldnt give 2 shits if you all disagree with me, but i couldnt give 2 flying shits if george bush planned it all, balls to you, believe what you want, untill the day it actually effects me i dont care about it.

[Luke]

SSSHHHEEESSSHH!

Don't they teach you ANYTHING in Schools these days?

Iraq has been under a dictatorship for many decades & removing their repressive leader doesn't just mean everything's going to be ok & back to a democratic state. As we've seen the Iraqi Police Force isn't capable at keeping order on there own, hence the further unvolvement of international troops.

You can't just remove a dictator & then everything will pan out for the good. It takes time, resources & co-operation....a perfect example is early 20th century Germany.

I'm sorry, but it seems all you lot see is 'War' & 'America' & instantly think 'oh my god Bush must be in it for something to destroy a country.'

He may not be a brilliant President, but a lot of shit he gets is from people with little intelligence to formulate there own views that they jump on the 'we hate America/Bush' bandwagon formed by the biggest idiots of all....*drum roll* the MEDIA!

I'm not jumping on any bandwagon duck. The mans an incompetent fool. You're being fooled.

[Shane]

lol, this reminds me of south park last night, blaming everything on george bush, south park can teach us all alot. At the end of the day, and i know this might sound wrong, and i couldnt give 2 shits if you all disagree with me, but i couldnt give 2 flying shits if george bush planned it all, balls to you, believe what you want, untill the day it actually effects me i dont care about it.
Southpark for Presidency! :P

[Lemmiwinks]

Lol, I used to live in south park.

[Lemmiwinks]

"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."—George Bush

Lol, terrorist?

[Brianna.]

Lol, I used to live in south park.


No shit. I'm about an hour from South Park.

[Lemmiwinks]

No shit. I'm about an hour from South Park.

Awesome, Colorado is great. I used to live in socal. Haha, still not used to the cold. I love to snowboard though and ski too, how about you?

[Brianna.]

I've never been...haha. I used to ski, but I stopped when I was like...14. I haven't taken it up again...The slopes out here scare me...haha.

I'm from New York, so I feel you on the cold thing. The altitude still kills me.

[Lemmiwinks]

yeah, the altitude is pretty scary. I thought I was going to die when we first moved here. I would get out of breath walking up the stairs!

[Bob!]

Bak on topic plz.

[Lemmiwinks]

lol, sorry

"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."—George Bush

Terrorist or Idiot?

[God.]

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

"Because he's hiding." —George W. Bush, responding to a reporter who asked why Osama bin Laden had not been caught, aboard Air Force One, Jan. 14, 2005


I know which one i think.

[Brianna.]

The man choked on a goddamned pretzel!!

Normally, I'd be like "Whatever.." but...the man who runs our entire COUNTRY can't handle chewing his own food.

[Lemmiwinks]

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

That is so sad, if I was that mother I would have slapped him!

[NeEdLeZ]

I love the title of this thread 9/11 Conspiracy... I just love the word conspiracy! And vendetta is a great word too.. .lol

[pakstar]

whoa tht vid is wickeeeed,

i think tht 2 many people are dying cos of bush, and he keeps using 9/11 as an excuse for it,

how many people died on 9/11? 200? 3000? 5,000? 10,000? alot more civilians then this have died and are dying in iraq, i still dont understand how he has the right to but his nose in2 other countries buisness

[-Snake-]

whoa tht vid is wickeeeed,

i think tht 2 many people are dying cos of bush, and he keeps using 9/11 as an excuse for it,

how many people died on 9/11? 200? 3000? 5,000? 10,000? alot more civilians then this have died and are dying in iraq, i still dont understand how he has the right to but his nose in2 other countries buisness

I think the war was justified but I think he went around doing it the wrong way he should have got full suport, Sadam has to go but the way he has done it is all wrong. Now we have those insurjents killing everybody they are just as bad as bush! O_O

[Patriot1776]

As many of you know, I will be leaving temporarily for religious reasons, but I would like to leave on this note.

1. The Pentagon was hit at 9:41 A.M., if a video can't even get that basic fact straight it kind've causes you to wonder.

2.This was just found off of the internet, their are plenty of more dependable resources.

3.It is believed that some of the planes may have exploded upon impact. Therefore there would be no plane to find.

4.Notice how the cable spools were there AFTER the fire department showed up.

5.Windows don't necessarily have to be destroyed, unlikely, but not impossible. Besides, anyone with Microsoft Photoshop can change details in very little time.

6. Yes, the towers may have been insured for 20 billion dollars, but the nations economy is worth A LOT more than 20 billion dollars

7.Cell phone calls from flight 93 (The passangers who fought back) did reveal that their were terrorists on board.

Don't get me wrong, I respect everyone's opinion, but there isn't really any absolute solid evidence in that video.

[Luke]

As many of you know, I will be leaving temporarily for religious reasons, but I would like to leave on this note.

1. The Pentagon was hit at 9:41 A.M., if a video can't even get that basic fact straight it kind've causes you to wonder.

2.This was just found off of the internet, their are plenty of more dependable resources.

3.It is believed that some of the planes may have exploded upon impact. Therefore there would be no plane to find.

4.Notice how the cable spools were there AFTER the fire department showed up.

5.Windows don't necessarily have to be destroyed, unlikely, but not impossible. Besides, anyone with Microsoft Photoshop can change details in very little time.

6. Yes, the towers may have been insured for 20 billion dollars, but the nations economy is worth A LOT more than 20 billion dollars

7.Cell phone calls from flight 93 (The passangers who fought back) did reveal that their were terrorists on board.

Don't get me wrong, I respect everyone's opinion, but there isn't really any absolute solid evidence in that video.

Cell phone calls? I heard about this but it's not 100% fact. Who's to say the terrorists on board were not Americans?

[Patriot1776]

Who's to say the witnesses in your video weren't lying?

[Luke]

Who's to say the witnesses in your video were telling the truth?

Why would they lie?

[Patriot1776]

Why not?

It is sad to say thatwe never really know what goes on in people's heads. I'm not saying they were lying, but we can never actually be to sure.

Witnesses in reality are not the most dependable evidence. You could have one person claim something, but someone somewhere will claim something that totally contradicts it.

Besides, both the FBI and CIA and numerous other agencies have files on known terrorists. I find it kind've hard to believe that possible members of Al-Qadae or other terrorist groups being on each flight was just a coincidence.

[Luke]

Why not?

It is sad to say thatwe never really know what goes on in people's heads. I'm not saying they were lying, but we can never actually be to sure.

Witnesses in reality are not the most dependable evidence. You could have one person claim something, but someone somewhere will claim something that totally contradicts it.

Besides, both the FBI and CIA and numerous other agencies have files on known terrorists. I find it kind've hard to believe that possible members of Al-Qadae or other terrorist groups being on each flight was just a coincidence.

The CIA and the FBI. Ah, probably the organizations behind the whole plot. How do you know there members of Al-Qaeda on the plane? You don't. The CIA and FBI have covered many things up it's unbelievable. No offence mate, but because it's the US it's kind easier to believe. The scandals in the US just keep coming. The Kennedy assassination, the Watergate scandal, Monica Lewinsky etc etc...

[Patriot1776]

Every nation has scandals. So you can't use that "solid" as evidence.

[Luke]

Every nation has scandals. So you can't use that "solid" as evidence.

Every country has scandals, yes but America has a bloody conveyor belt full of them!

[Patriot1776]

And England doesn't?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_political_scandals

(No offense to any British people who aren't involved in this debate)

[Luke]

And England doesn't?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_political_scandals

(No offense to any British people who aren't involved in this debate)

So you want to cause offence to me?!?!

England has had scandals. Yeah. I'm not denying that. Blair has been led by Bush the criminal. I won't be crying George Dubya dies, that is for sure.

[Patriot1776]

Obviously you have run out of any evidence to support your argument.

[Luke]

Obviously you have run out of any evidence to support your argument.

No, not at all. I'm just bored. I give you evidence and you dismiss it. The plane blows up before it hits the tower! The tower crumbles as if it had some explosives set off inside of the fucking building! How many times do you need to see it?

[Patriot1776]

Enough to where you can present SOLID ( As in can't be proven wrong) evidence that this video is true.

Notice how of all seven of my points you only found one to argue against and even then you failed.

[Luke]

Enough to where you can present SOLID ( As in can't be proven wrong) evidence that this video is true.

Notice how of all seven of my points you only found one to argue against and even then you failed.

The bulidng crumbles. You've seen it. Not just on my video, but on the news. Everywhere. It even has it on farenheight 9/11. George does nothing when he is told about the attacks, nothing. Bush knew it was coming, that's why. That's why he made sure he was at a school in Florida - well out of the way. What did he do about a week after? He went golfing. The man is a clown, a criminal, a terrorist and a down right embarrasment to your country.

[Patriot1776]

You should probably know that Farenheit 9/11 was pure propaganda and is not really a good resource to use in a valid argument.

Would you rather have Bush wet his pants and run. He was in a classroom of 2ND GRADERS.

Also, as leader of our nation he knows that by showing panic he causes the nation to panic.

And yes the building crumbled. How does that support your argument at all?

[Luke]

You should probably know that Farenheit 9/11 was pure propaganda and is not really a good resource to use in a valid argument.

Would you rather have Bush wet his pants and run. He was in a classroom of 2ND GRADERS.

Also, as leader of our nation he knows that by showing panic he causes the nation to panic.

And yes the building crumbled. How does that support your argument at all?

Why was he with 2nd graders though? Probably hoping to learn a thing or two :D

The building crumbled. It wouldn't have crumbled from the plane. It was like when there are explosived denonated in a building to demolish it. The USA higher powers are sick.

[Patriot1776]

According to Minoru Yamasaki, the chief architect of the Twin Towers, a plane crash could destroy the towers provided that it exploded upon impact.

And you should also probably know that Bush was reading to the 2nd Graders while in Florida which is where his brother is governor. (Although why you seem to think that this has any pertinence is beyond me)

[Luke]

According to Minoru Yamasaki, the chief architect of the Twin Towers, a plane crash could destroy the towers provided that it exploded upon impact.

And you should also probably know that Bush was reading to the 2nd Graders while in Florida which is where his brother is governor. (Although why you seem to think that this has any pertinence is beyond me)

I'm bored now. Going to get me sen some sleep. You're a clown, your country's a joke and we ALL fucking hate that terrorist Bush.

Bye. :)

[Patriot1776]

And you're someone who's trying to act smart in a subject he knows squat about.

If all you can do is call me a clown you have obviously lost this debate.

As for anyone who is reading all this Good Night, and Good Luck

[Luke]

And your someone who's trying to act smart in a subject he knows squat about.

If all you can do is call me a clown you have obviously lost this debate.

Good Night, and Good Luck

I ant lost nowt mate. It's just that I have school in morning, i'm in my last year and studying for my GCSE's so I can do my A levels so I need to do as well as I can. Alrite?

[Patriot1776]

Feel free to return anytime.

[Luke]

Feel free to return anytime.

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

:D

[Patriot1776]

Okay. There is nothing wrong with you wanting God to save your Queen.

Am I supposed to feel insulted by this?

[Luke]

Okay. There is nothing wrong with you wanting God to save your Queen.

Am I supposed to feel insulted by this?

No.

Why have you taken it this way?

Personally, I hate the Queen.

[Patriot1776]

Fine. You have the right to hate the Queen as well.

I wasn't saying you were trying to insult me. It just appeared that way.






Well if you ask me where I come from
Here's what I tell everyone
I was born by God's dear grace
In an extra-ordinary place
Where the stars and stripes and the eagle flies...

It's a big old land with countless dreams.
Happiness ain't out of reach
Hard work pays off the way it should
Yea, I've seen enough to know that we got it good

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle flies...
There's a lady that stands
in a harbor for what we believe
And there's a bell that still echoes
the price that it cost to be free

I pledge allegiance to the flag
And if that bothers you, well that's too bad
But if you've got pride, and you're pride to do
Hey, we can use more like me and you

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle flies...
Yes, There's a lady that stands
in a harbor for what we believe
And there's a bell that still echoes
the price that it cost to be free

No, it ain't the only place on earth
It's the only place that I prefer
To love my wife and raise my kids
(Hey) The same way my daddy did

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle flies...
Where the stars and stripes and the eagle flies...

[Luke]

Gimme a St.George's cross over the stars and stripes anyday.

[Patriot1776]

Fine then.

I don't expect you to feel patriotism for America.

I can respect any man or woman that has patriotism/nationalism for his country.

Just like you, I feel obligated to stand up for my country through thick and thin.



If tomorrow all the things were gone
. . I'd worked for all my life,
And I had to start again
. . with just my children and my wife,
I'd thank my lucky stars
. . to be livin' here today.
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
. . And they can't take that away.

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up
. . next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA

From the lakes of Minnesota
... To the hills of Tennessee
... Across the plains of Texas
... From sea to shining sea
... From Detroit down to Houston
... And New York to LA
Well there's pride in every American heart
And its time we stand and say..

That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up . . next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I gladly stand up . . next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless the USA!

[Boy_Wonder06]

what are you two going on about lol, at the end of the day no matter what, we all repsect the coutry we were born in. We are all equal believe it or not, even the suicide bombers are equal, we all have our beliefs so at the end of the day we all live by them no matter what.

[Patriot1776]

Exactly

Those last six posts were more playful banter than anything.

Yet you will be suprised. Sadly some people hate the nation they were born in.

[Brianna.]

I hate that song.


Haaaaate it....Stupid country singers.

[iaxa]

i reckon it is ive seen loads of things like that. they arent giving us the full picture . i thought it looked like a jet crashing into the pentagon . and i notcied there were 2 or 3 explosions (one before the silver object hit, one while it hit im guessing the silver object exploding , after when the explosion was happeing another fire ball started to appear im guessing a bomb)

ty for showing us that

[Luke]

what are you two going on about lol, at the end of the day no matter what, we all repsect the coutry we were born in. We are all equal believe it or not, even the suicide bombers are equal, we all have our beliefs so at the end of the day we all live by them no matter what.

Bollocks. :angered:

[Luke]

ty for showing us that

Your welcome. You'll see many more from me lol.

[Pearson]

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

:D

Ha Ha, the only time English people get partriotic is when England's playing football (especially in the world cup) and when we get involved in an argument with the yanks!

[Luke]

Ha Ha, the only time English people get partriotic is when England's playing football (especially in the world cup) and when we get involved in an argument with the yanks!

I do like the singing the old anthem though lol.

[Pearson]

Yer, its good to sing. but Im sure were the only nation that has our whole anthem dedicated to one person, and one person that nobody really cares about!

[Luke]

Yer, its good to sing. but Im sure were the only nation that has our whole anthem dedicated to one person, and one person that nobody really cares about!

They were on about changing it to Jerusalem. Don't know bloody words to that!

[iaxa]

fcuk kool i cant w8

[seXeh_arab]

america is too careful to just leave its pentagon get blown, it's an obvious conspiracy and it can't be that random

[iaxa]

i dont reckon they didnt do the job properly .. careful my ass you saw the pic how could like a plane make like a perfect hole (what about the wings) i reckon it was a missle as i mentioned before

[Ranger]

This is really interesting... considering I recently rented a video on some unconstitutional stuff that the gov's been doing... it mentioned that shortly after 9/11, they came up with a bill (several hundred pages long). You don't just have a bill ready that fast. The bill was supposed to let the government react to the attacks, but givent he length and the timing of the release, apparently nobody had a chance to read it, and given its summary, voted for it. Meaning, there's stuff they didn' know about in there.

As for the whole missile thing, my guess is they used a ballistic missile. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's a non explosive missile, that just uses its momentum to punch a hole in whatevah. That combined with bombs would explain the nice, clean holes near in the center (no explosions or burning there), and all the fire around the impact area.

Notice also that the impact was in an area that was under construction. Meaning, it didn't destroy too much. A smart terrorist would've crashed into active parts, not almost empty ones.

It may also be possible that the US gov knew about the attacks on the towers, and then pulled the pentagon stunt, thus putting the blame on whoever did the tower crashing.

[Kate]

Could you please stop trying to always make America look bad.

Soz Matey it does it itself

[buthy-13]

omg

*speechless*

why did they never released the film :mad:

[Darts]

You all need to watch something that disproves that evidence before you believe it.

It's like saying Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code is completely true.

[MiSs_DiVa]

This is a conspiracy it was defnitly AL - QAEDA

[buthy-13]

This is a conspiracy it was defnitly AL - QAEDA

nah..it was not :D