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lozzy
February 4th '06, 07:51 PM
should the law for having sex under 16 be changed to being able to have sex younger then that ? i think it should be changed to being able to have sex younger then 16!!

Boy_Wonder06
February 4th '06, 07:54 PM
i think the legal age she be upped to 18, cuz then that way ppl would have it at the age of 16, if u get my point, the higher the restricted the higher age they will be

lozzy
February 4th '06, 08:05 PM
i think it should be lowered to 13 and over because i think when you get to a teenager your old enough to make your own decisions and the goverment and parents shouldn't try to stop teenagers doing certain things if the teenagers know their ready.

-Snake-
February 4th '06, 08:43 PM
15 seems practical, But if people want to have sex its just like file sharing and smoking weed: A Un-Inforceable Law...

Bob!
February 4th '06, 09:12 PM
Nah tbh, its bad enough as it is.

I mean come on, 13, hell people are already doin it around 12 nowdays, just aint right. Ya bodies arnt made for it at that age, plus with girls naturally goin for older blokes it just makes it plain wrong lol.

No the law needs to stay.

Pearson
February 4th '06, 09:21 PM
i think it should be lowered to 13 and over because i think when you get to a teenager your old enough to make your own decisions and the goverment and parents shouldn't try to stop teenagers doing certain things if the teenagers know their ready.

13's way to early, yer 13 year olds can make there own decsisons. But 13's no age to ruin your life. If you had a kid at 13 thats it, thats your youth and most of your social life over.

Bob!
February 4th '06, 09:27 PM
LoL yeah, but thats what its like now.

The law sayin ya should only do it at 16 or over is the only thing that stops/slows down some people.

If the law said 13 then even younger would be doin it like 9 yr olds! because then its be "bad" and "naughty", and ya cant tell me thats acceptable.

-Snake-
February 4th '06, 09:41 PM
13's way to early, yer 13 year olds can make there own decsisons. But 13's no age to ruin your life. If you had a kid at 13 thats it, thats your youth and most of your social life over.

Long as its safe and its a serious relationship then i dont see the massive problem I know its wrong but it was only recently in earths history that there were laws put on for generations its been when they feel like it.....

Bob!
February 5th '06, 01:09 AM
Yeah cause a few years ago people actually had a lil self honor and dint bang the entire community lol. This has only really started happenin in our generation.

IceBurn3000
February 5th '06, 02:35 AM
15 seems practical, But if people want to have sex its just like file sharing and smoking weed: A Un-Inforceable Law...
In Australia, while the law is unenforceable, it exists to stop older people having sex with people under the age of 16. While a 15 year old and a 17 year old may have sex, if the parents of the 15 year old find out, they can have the 17 year old charged with statutory rape and malicious handling of a minor.

Don't quote me, but I don't think the law can do anything about two people who are both under 16 having consensual sex.

~*aussie_gal~*
February 5th '06, 04:25 AM
yeah well i mean a law doesn't exactly stop a person from anything but i get your point about keeping it at 16 but its just going to keep going lower with the teenagers...but the law doesn't mean anything no one really takes notice to it if there underage and they "think" there ready they will do it. its the persons fault what happens to them after they do it and they regret it. i dont have a problem with other people lives...its up to them

angisson
February 5th '06, 04:31 AM
er, i don't really see the reason to lower it.. i mean 13 is perty dam young... 16 sounds right to me :D

Entice
February 5th '06, 04:33 AM
What IceBurn said.

And 13's way too young to be having sex.

~*aussie_gal~*
February 5th '06, 04:34 AM
there just shouldn't be a law anyway cause no one abides by it...if its "illegal" people will do it

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 09:49 AM
This is a debate that particulally annoys me, people saying it should be a higher age, or a lower. Its ridiculous! I mean, if you lowered the age to 13, which is pathetic, then kids at the age of bloody 10 will wanna do it! Lets face it, most people "do it" younger than 16 because its wrong an your not allowd, its the same with drinking.
I dont see why the age should be highered to 18, as thats when you can do other stuff, at the age of 16 most people are mature enough to control their own actions.
I personally thing its a bit stupid when a girl at the age of 15 and a guy at the age of 16 have sex, and then get into trouble, its not as if the guy is way much older!
The people who came up with the law of having sex at the age of 16 more than likely did a lot of research into this, and figured it would be the best age, which i agree. Their not saying you HAVE to have sex at the age of 16, you can make your own choices, theres no reason why this should be changed.

Boy_Wonder06
February 5th '06, 12:15 PM
i think, that 16 is an ok age, but if you lower it, as bob said you will get ppl at the age of around 9 doing it. OUr society has changed drastically in our generation, and its all because we are arrogant to the laws and we live our own life.

Years ago children wouldn't even dream about having sez until they were married (silly i know) but all though im all up for sex lol, i think people abuse it in a way. The dictionary deifinition says its how people show there love for each other, in our day an age its something you have to do when your flammin drunk, NOW come on, get in the real world, sex is sex, and i dont care what ppl think lol if the government realy cared they'd enforce this more, bk to my last topic, our government isnt interested in that , its interested in statistics and how good or bad they look!.

Mamfy
February 5th '06, 01:05 PM
I do not believe the age of consent should be changed at all. If it was lowered from 16, then as everyone else has said, plenty of youngsters would be doing it, and it's not right (in my opinion). Girls bodies haven't developed properly at the age of 10 or even 13. 16 is a good enough age because we are starting to make our own decisions. We are at GCSE age where we have to be choosing where we want to go and what to study. We should be responsible enough to decide what we want to do.

If it was changed to 18 then practically no one would wait til that age. Sex has become something people do for fun or because they want to experience it. Most People don't wait until they're legal or are with someone who they want to be with for ever, they do it because they want to do it, and that's fair enough, they have made that decision.

If it was lowered, plenty of kids would be getting pregnat because they don't understand the ways and means of contraception and therefore would ruin their life. If it was changed to 18, you would get more people doing it underage, and it's just useless. In my eyes, 16 is a perfect age.

lozzy
February 5th '06, 02:42 PM
i think people should have sex if they're in a serious relationship and feel they are ready as long as it's not under 10 now thats just sick!

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 02:56 PM
i think people should have sex if they're in a serious relationship and feel they are ready as long as it's not under 10 now thats just sick!
they shouldnt even be 10,
can kill yer if u do it before u develop :|
think of the pain! and if you start off that bloody young, you will more than likely split up wi that lad, then turn into a slag :| cos be wantin sex all time

Bob!
February 5th '06, 04:49 PM
True, really no lower than late 15's should any girl be having sex, its just wrong for the reasons already mentioned.
Its also silly the blokes doin it then as well, probably makes em feel "manly". Well doin it at that age, and just for that one reason is as much unmanly as you can get lol, thats being a boy not a man, which is also a greatly misunderstood concept in the world of today.

16 or 18 is reyt enough, but as its at 16 then its best if it stays, any lower that that is just people being immature, and if so then they shouldnt be doing something such as having sex at all, i'm sure if the person looked back on it with more sense when they were older, they'd think a lot differently on it than when they did back then, though that depends on the person.

And with the thing about kids, hell most ADULTS probably have a hard time with a new kid, even though they may have a good house, income and a partner. But what about a 13 yr old girl who'se just gone bangin people and ended up with one, and even if she's still with the father then she probably wont be in a few years time as relationships dont really last at that age, now that brings more hardship on the kid, the mother, her own parents and anyone else, through having to put up with looking after a child at that age, it just aint right.

-Snake-
February 5th '06, 05:31 PM
This is a debate that particulally annoys me, people saying it should be a higher age, or a lower. Its ridiculous! I mean, if you lowered the age to 13, which is pathetic, then kids at the age of bloody 10 will wanna do it! Lets face it, most people "do it" younger than 16 because its wrong an your not allowd, its the same with drinking.
I dont see why the age should be highered to 18, as thats when you can do other stuff, at the age of 16 most people are mature enough to control their own actions.
I personally thing its a bit stupid when a girl at the age of 15 and a guy at the age of 16 have sex, and then get into trouble, its not as if the guy is way much older!
The people who came up with the law of having sex at the age of 16 more than likely did a lot of research into this, and figured it would be the best age, which i agree. Their not saying you HAVE to have sex at the age of 16, you can make your own choices, theres no reason why this should be changed.


People have sex beacuse they want to and its in there nature...
Not beacuse its taboo its nothing like alcohol or drugs...

Bob!
February 5th '06, 05:34 PM
LoL I think a lot of people do things because the law, or someone else says it shouldn't be done. It gives em the "naughty" image, which some use to be appealing to their friends or the opposite sex.

Probably quite a few people do things, and have sex underage because it gives em the additional "buzz" that theyre "rebelling" and going against the rules.

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 05:37 PM
yeah bob,
and greg, it is illegal? i no its not like drugs and what not but still bad consequences

-Snake-
February 5th '06, 05:42 PM
Personally I think your both wrong having sex underage does not make you feel like you are a rebel, People have sex beacuse its nice and new, NOT beacuse they think its a bit naughty or illegal.... lol

Mamfy
February 5th '06, 05:57 PM
Also, If you are having sex at the age of 13 or below, it raises your risk of getting cervical cancer (this kind of thing only happens in women) because if you are having sex and sexual activity at an earlier age, you are more at risk.

Fact.

-Snake-
February 5th '06, 05:59 PM
13 is silly but its that person's choice, It does happen but not half as much as people make out...

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 05:59 PM
Personally I think your both wrong having sex underage does not make you feel like you are a rebel, People have sex beacuse its nice and new, NOT beacuse they think its a bit naughty or illegal.... lol

dont say im wrong, im saying it from my perspective, were all allowd point of views on here, its a forum, and then dont tell me on msn that im wrong either, like i said, today is no day to pick arguments with me.
GrEg FrEeRuNnEr! says:
.... ur wrong soz luv...

-Snake-
February 5th '06, 06:01 PM
Copying my quote style won't make your right, neither will using big letters...

Yes its your point of view, and I think its not right....

Therfor... its wrong :ninja*:

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 06:03 PM
for a starters i didnt mean to use big letters, just it was left like that from when i highlighted words outa your quote.
Points of views arent right or wrong, im not saying your wrong am i? am just telling you my point of view

Bob!
February 5th '06, 06:05 PM
LoL @ my dancin ninja.

Anyways yes everyone is entitled to their point of view, which means you can say you think something someone said is wrong, or disagree with it or whatever if you state your reason or evidence as well, thats just discussin, which is what this part of the forum is for.

Lets get back on topic people :)

-Snake-
February 5th '06, 06:07 PM
Ok here is my ponit of view, you are wrong :D
Bob whats up with editing my post I left a word out?

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 06:07 PM
bob what u on about editing posts?
and points of views arent wrong....just different :P

Bob!
February 5th '06, 06:09 PM
And yeah well if you think summats wrong then fair nuff, thats yer opinion lol.

Back 2 discussion, we had sum valid points goin, right or wrong it doesent matter lol.

Edit: My apologies, I was on about kayes post, but it was where she'd included that from her msn, I thought u'd edited it in and set it in grey lol, just looked back and saw there was no "edited by" tag. No problemos.

Edit 2: Nothing kaye, its fine lol, twas a misunderstandin thats all.

Sponge'K'nob
February 5th '06, 06:11 PM
what do you want me to do with my post?
and think it was mamf who said something about cancer, yeah thats right, which s one of reasons why they set the legal age to 16.

Mamfy
February 5th '06, 07:05 PM
Yeah, I said about the cervical cancer. IT would also be more of a risk for them to get sti's too, considering that they are young and might not know about means of contraception and all.

D3c3p7ioN
February 5th '06, 07:08 PM
Even with the law no one would give a shit.

Richiecroft
February 5th '06, 08:38 PM
I read in my local paper that kids as young as 10 are having sex!! This is f*cking disgusting, the parents don't even bother with their kids ( don't get me wrong here). They say the kids are bored, they need things to do, thats why they go round having sex!

Pearson
February 5th '06, 09:25 PM
I think kids are having sex young to see what the crack is (no pun intended) theres such a fuss med about how good sex is, especially amongst boys, that is it anywonder that people want to do it as soon as they can

JaeSwift
February 9th '06, 02:15 PM
lol, Yeah, so they can go back round school and brag.. lol!

I lost my virginity at 14 to a 17 year old.... uhh.. It was shit. LOL.

I'm 17 now and I've slept with 4 people..

I don't know why, I don't see the point either.. LOL

babybatmindie
February 9th '06, 07:46 PM
i beleive when the time is right they as in the person should choose there time... if they feel that they can cope with this fact then so be it. just know yourself befor you give yourself, that is what i live by... a simple thought from a mother at 15.... though now i am 17...

GotToHaveNeo
February 12th '06, 11:30 AM
Personally, the thought of a 13 year old having sex makes me feel disgusting. I have an 11 year old sister and i would never let her have sex, some 13 year olds havent even gotten any pubic hair yet and we are expected to accpet them having sex?

Sponge'K'nob
February 12th '06, 12:46 PM
no pubic hair at 13?
okay....
but either way its still wrong

pakstar
February 15th '06, 06:50 PM
i think that they should definately up the age for sexual consent.

cos for:

1. i think that people at 16 are definately not able to make the decision to bring life into the world.

2. i think that it would give peadophilels an excuse.

and on top of this i think they should abolish sex education, i think that sex should be introduced/told to the kids by their parents and no body else

Sponge'K'nob
February 15th '06, 08:30 PM
i disagree, i think its fine the way it is, some parents may find it had to interact with their child, and the age is just right. if it was highered that doesnt mean they wouldnt do it.

michelle
February 15th '06, 10:26 PM
i think they should keep sex education, because what about those single parents who have a daughter or a son, and a man trying to explain to 13 year old about sex is funny to watch, i think the law should stay as it is......

-Snake-
February 16th '06, 03:18 PM
I think young girls are easily infulenced by gangs aswell, Sex education should still be told but I think parents should talk about it with there children from about 13+

pakstar
February 17th '06, 06:53 PM
did u hear some time ago about them trying to bring compulsary sex ed for 5 yr olds??!! it was last year i fink.

~*aussie_gal~*
February 22nd '06, 08:23 AM
yeah the law should stay...hey i leart about sex from everything/everybody but my parents and im 15 and i can make a choice....no i havent had sex and im not stupid, dont take sex ed away its the best time in high school...so funny...its just depends on the stupid people out there that cant wear a condom and people who are smart enough who can...everyone has an opinion.

danni4kevin
February 22nd '06, 09:15 AM
i recon dat it shud b 13. i lost mine at 15.

Mamfy
February 22nd '06, 03:49 PM
yeah the law should stay...hey i leart about sex from everything/everybody but my parents and im 15 and i can make a choice....no i havent had sex and im not stupid, dont take sex ed away its the best time in high school...so funny...its just depends on the stupid people out there that cant wear a condom and people who are smart enough who can...everyone has an opinion.


You're not stupid if you can't wear a condom, it's a fact that some guys can;t put them on, therefore the girl can do it for them. They're not stupid, they just can't do it.

Bob!
February 22nd '06, 11:44 PM
I think she means peopel that dont wear a condom and ones that do.

And yeah thas a good idea Mamfy :P

Mamfy
February 23rd '06, 04:04 PM
Eeek

Bob's suggesting something that I'm not too keen on..... 0_0

Bob!
February 23rd '06, 07:05 PM
You said it! :P

Mamfy
February 23rd '06, 07:37 PM
Ooo err 0_o

buthy-13
January 21st '07, 11:26 AM
: Should there be a law to let people have sex under 16



no

i think their should be a law that people are not aloud to have sex before marriage

adam_smith
January 21st '07, 01:31 PM
i thikn it should stay at 16 but if u want it before tht i cant see a problem with it as long as people use protection

Shane
January 21st '07, 02:57 PM
: Should there be a law to let people have sex under 16



no

i think their should be a law that people are not aloud to have sex before marriage
*laughs*

Darts
January 21st '07, 03:15 PM
I think the age should be raised to 18, 17 at the least, because even still there will be people that start earlier than the legal age and if there is a lot of emphasis and support from parents then it should lead to people having sex a lot later. Also it will become more associated with the drinking and driving age which many people have accepted as the age you can do it as much as you like. I think this will have an effect then because turning sixteen wont mean 'yay I can have sex now' like it does to a lot of people.

I don't know how to word this properly to get my point across so dont criticise me, lol, but I hope you get what I mean.

Bob!
January 21st '07, 05:22 PM
All raising the legal age would do is prevent a few more people from making mistakes so tbh it should be implemented.

As some decide not to go through with it because its against the law and so on, but if they really wanted it and it really wasn't a mistake, then they would anyways.

Otherwise if they are fearing that its still wrong and also that its against the law, then they shouldn't be doing it.

All the law does in that sense is just initiate the conscience and thinking in people and persuading them not to do wrong, wheras if they REALLY knew it wasn't wrong and it WAS right for them, then they would break it anyways as said. Of course mistakes can be made and its not concrete, but it would probably help make people think a lil more first, especially in todays society where kids are being born to a mother of around 14, and no/a different father.

buthy-13
January 21st '07, 06:46 PM
*laughs*

lol

well maybe you as a guy can't handle it but for many reason like what if the protection did not work what if you had the baby or got pregnant then what????
jessica simpsone kept her verginity until marrige

Bob!
January 21st '07, 07:44 PM
It wouldn't work though Buthy lol, and its nothing to do with gender.

For a start, guidelines and restrictions only produce a positive effect if they don't go too far, otherwise they only achieve the opposite.

People still need to have a choice, and also what about people who stay together years, but don't get married? Or ones with religious differences between them that prevents that.

So yeah, thats askin a bit too much lol, ya can set a law on something that definitily will or will not happen, like age and so on, but marriage is circumstancial, it doesen't apply to everyone, that parts theyre own choice.

manman
January 21st '07, 11:45 PM
Come on! The age consideration can not be based on the urge of anyone. It is based mainly on medical reasons and early age sex could mean harm to youngsters.

isabellacantino
January 27th '07, 11:31 AM
wait is this law in america or only in the UK cause I really dont recall any laws in america against sex

my opinion:sex is sex, why should there be a law restricting it, its not like its gonna stop anyone.

j3ssiicaa
January 27th '07, 04:38 PM
There's a law?

In my opinion it's that persons choice, their not doing harm in anyone but themselves, just let them do what they want. If something happens that would be their problem not anyone elses.

Bob!
January 28th '07, 04:36 PM
wait is this law in america or only in the UK cause I really dont recall any laws in america against sex

my opinion:sex is sex, why should there be a law restricting it, its not like its gonna stop anyone.

Its 1. To put people off going and having sex + getting pregnant too young, (for some the fear of the law prevents this, but its stopped working now)

And 2. To protect children and the young from pedophiles. If anyone has sex with a young girl and even if they lure em into being willing, (younger than 16 in the U.K) they can be actively prosecuted for it.

isabellacantino
January 29th '07, 04:56 PM
ooh yeah I forgot pedophiles...
yesh then sex laws make total sense(even if ineffective)

kristina_39
January 29th '07, 05:00 PM
idk about that isabellacantino.. round here.. sex laws are laid down.. no sexuall contact until age to give consent (16) anything under that is considered rape. no matter if your parents allow it. or allowed you to date.. then once past the age of 16 you have to be within 4 years of age with he/she until the age of 18. so...

nin
January 29th '07, 05:54 PM
i dont think it will make any difference if they upped the law because people are used to having underage sex and it wont stop and it probably won't be reduced. If it was lowered thought i think a lot more people would be doing it and more young people will become pregnant at an early age :puke: and its pretty disgusting.

Stumpy
January 29th '07, 07:21 PM
i dont think it should be raised but i do think that people should be warned more about the concequences* or at least more darsticaly punishe if they do it brfore that age

phantom13
January 29th '07, 08:04 PM
consent laws vary greatly by state, so you should really specify what state(s) you're speaking about

dhenyck
January 30th '07, 12:19 AM
against law and maybe immoral

kristina_39
January 30th '07, 03:02 AM
its not immoral if two people agree. and they love each other with all their hearts... yes age does make a difference.. because it has been proven that the older apart you and your partner have to more complicated the pregnacy is and also because one gene pool is begining to break down and one is still young.. their for what ever the older one has such as heart diesease or kidney.. things like that, the children will have that.. my family is living proof. my grandmother and grandfather had five children and they were 33 years apart. Paw Paw was born in 1900 and maw maw was born in 1933. they all have diabetes.. same as paw. so.. living proof.

westernbabe09
January 30th '07, 03:26 PM
No. I think people should wait untill they are married. Now that should be a law.

kristina_39
January 30th '07, 03:55 PM
well.. i disagree..because some people have different morals...and we all have different character... here in the U.S. we have what is called freedom...and yeah it may not be much these days but... we have the right to do what we want, when we want,however we want and with whom ever we want..thats part of life......you may want to save it.. more power to ya.. not to may people like that anymore..generations have changed. more people (us teenagers) think that we know everything and grow up to fast..main reason why most of us have had sex.. but that was our choice not anyone elses... again...what we want, when , how and with whom ever we want

Bob!
January 30th '07, 06:21 PM
No. I think people should wait untill they are married. Now that should be a law.

As I said before, that would be impractical because:

For a start, guidelines and restrictions only produce a positive effect if they don't go too far, otherwise they only achieve the opposite.

People still need to have a choice, and also what about people who stay together years, but don't get married? Or ones with religious differences between them that prevents that.

So yeah, thats askin a bit too much lol, ya can set a law on something that definitily will or will not happen, like age and so on, but marriage is circumstancial, it doesen't apply to everyone, that parts theyre own choice.

Pezza
January 30th '07, 07:19 PM
Of course yes, if both are under 18.

dhenyck
January 30th '07, 07:34 PM
I agree with westernbabe09..in our country that's our tradition...

oOoBubblesoOo
February 1st '07, 07:56 PM
I think 16 is a perfect age to be having sex, its when your body is ready and people are physical able-so i read.

However think of it logically...Do you think most people will take any notice of the new law? They dont take notice of the law now. Perhaps they could think of a punishment you may suggest...But Do you think it will work? Sex is easy to go through with without being caught nowadays.

Roly
February 18th '07, 11:06 AM
Ok say we make the age lower for sex. But with that comes money issue. With the money that is used to give the legal guardians money to feed their kids (well the government does here anyway in Australia) they will have to give to a bucnh of 13yr old kids who will waste it on junk food and other shit while having nowhere to live as they have to pay the bills because the purport themselves to be mature enough to deal with issues that only an adult should have to deal with.

Deimos
February 18th '07, 11:50 AM
Age restriction should be raised to at least 18, financial penalties should be imposed on people who become pregnant/father a child below that age. People caught having underage sex should be fined, and potentially re-educated. The educational system should introduce children at an early age to sex, and not glorify it.

You can't argue that if the two people love each other it doesn't matter their age, under 20 we think we love every new person that comes along anyway.


but that was our choice not anyone elses... again...what we want, when , how and with whom ever we want
Is quite possibly the most disgusting concept I've heard, Self-control should be practised, Sex is not a necessity, people should wait.

Nintendus
February 18th '07, 02:08 PM
Age restriction should be raised to at least 18, financial penalties should be imposed on people who become pregnant/father a child below that age. People caught having underage sex should be fined, and potentially re-educated. The educational system should introduce children at an early age to sex, and not glorify it.


I agree with that.

Pearson
February 18th '07, 04:56 PM
Age restriction should be raised to at least 18, financial penalties should be imposed on people who become pregnant/father a child below that age. People caught having underage sex should be fined, and potentially re-educated. The educational system should introduce children at an early age to sex, and not glorify it.


All though I agree with what your saying in a sense, financial penalties will make people think about using condoms more....but say we have two 16 years, no jobs, struggling to make ends meet, struggling to pay for things for the baby and then they get a financial penalty....how will that help the baby?

Darts
February 18th '07, 06:01 PM
Exactly.

Blackspynx
February 18th '07, 09:51 PM
This whole thread is ridiculous. Hardly anybody has taken into account the responsibilities two people must undertake and apprehend when it comes to sex. Will eleven and twelve year olds bare in mind the possible consequences? Not many. Our bodies may be ready for nature's course, but we, ourselves, are most certainly not.

Even if you don't plan on having and raising children, you should be financially and mentally apt and prepared for it when engaging in sexual relations. Accidents happen, condoms don't always work.

Stupid, raging hormones, God damn. What business do children have in fornicating anyway? Brushing aside my views on pre-marital sex, eighteen is the ideal age; Once you've graduated high school and your parents are no longer under any obligation to take care of your shit.

Deimos
February 19th '07, 02:11 AM
All though I agree with what your saying in a sense, financial penalties will make people think about using condoms more....but say we have two 16 years, no jobs, struggling to make ends meet, struggling to pay for things for the baby and then they get a financial penalty....how will that help the baby?


Then the fools have already shown they're completely irresponsible and the baby should be relocated. condom sale should obviously be restricted also, there's no efficient way of policing underage sex, but the penalties can be made severe enough so that they deter it to some degree.

OMFGIDC
February 19th '07, 02:41 AM
Jesus christ, no way.
16 is even too young in some cases.
Teenages younger than 16 can't make sensible decisions, for the most part.

Bob!
February 19th '07, 06:48 PM
Exactly, things are already as bad as it is with 12 and 13 year olds runnin round bangin each other and gettin pregnant, ending in the baby growing up without its real dad and so on.

A reduce in the law will only make it even worse.

Pearson
February 19th '07, 07:38 PM
Then the fools have already shown they're completely irresponsible and the baby should be relocated. condom sale should obviously be restricted also, there's no efficient way of policing underage sex, but the penalties can be made severe enough so that they deter it to some degree.

Condom sales should be obviously restricted? Sorry again, Im trying my hardest to agree with you but you've got to understand regardless of financial penalties and the sale of condoms being restricted people under 16 will have sex....and if they dont have condoms the chance of them having a baby is more likely, and then they get fined, for something that they will struggle to pay for anyway, and the fine wont help the baby either. Although I do in a way agree with what your saying, there should be more things stopping children having sex, there a major flaws in your idea.

Infact I believe condoms should be reduced in price and be sold in more places, to anyone, this way atleast theres more chance of youths have safe sex and less chance of them getting pregnant. I dont think people under 16 should be having sex but you cant go round making sure every person under 16 isnt having sex...you might as well make sure there having safe sex.

Deimos
February 19th '07, 11:19 PM
Any teens still having sex under 18 with such punishments as a result demonstrate a complete lack of maturity and intelligence. As such, I feel they should be severely punished, they should not be allowed to keep their baby, with either a forced abortion or having it taken away and put into foster care at birth.
Seriously, who cares if the punishments HELP them? They've already proven they're too stupid to deserve help.

More Condom sales to promote safe sex would work, but really doesn't further the overall goal, which is to reduce underage sex. I'll think on it some more, try find a happy balance.

Hell, introduce a forced castration as a punishment :P, that'll work >.>

michelle
February 20th '07, 11:30 AM
Any teens still having sex under 18 with such punishments as a result demonstrate a complete lack of maturity and intelligence. As such, I feel they should be severely punished, they should not be allowed to keep their baby, with either a forced abortion or having it taken away and put into foster care at birth.
Seriously, who cares if the punishments HELP them? They've already proven they're too stupid to deserve help.


You cant take there baby away...youll destroy them for life....the mother and the baby what are you ment to tell the child 'your parents had sex to young so you got taken off them it was either that or they had to have an abortion' yeah that would go down great. They are not stupid, the y obviously didn't take precaution and have suffered the consequence they have a child to look after for the rest fo there life.....thats the big consequence of all.....they will have no social life for a few years........no education. That will make them think twice before having sex and using condoms and other contraception.

Raising or lowering the age for allowing sex wouldn't work, lowering is just wrong allowing 13 year olds having sex is a big no no..... they're not ready for it even if they think they are...they're not. Keeping at 16 means 15/16 year olds can make there own choices in having sex they are mature enough in making that decision, but nay younger is just not right. Its at 16 for a reason to stop paedophiles from having sex with kids that arnt ready or haven't matured enough.
You should only have sex if you feel you are ready.

Sex education i will never forget it, watching a woman give birth at the age of 11 scares ya for life. my mum attempted to give me the birds and the bees talk but it failed i already knew, my primary school had taught me before i went to secondary school.

i dont regret my first time, i chose to, i didn't say no, i felt i was ready and i wanted to.

OMFGIDC
February 20th '07, 03:02 PM
I totally disagree with the punishment of having the baby taken from them, or forced abortion.
That is just ridic.

Deimos
February 20th '07, 11:37 PM
They are not stupid, the y obviously didn't take precaution and have suffered the consequence they have a child to look after for the rest fo there life

Of course it means theyre stupid, and really, whether they keep the baby or not, they've destroyed their lives. Taking away the baby allows them to continue their education, get better jobs, and contribute to the nations economy.

Putting the baby in foster care, arguably, is a better life for the baby.

I have no pity for the fools who lack the self-control and sensibilities to wear protection.

Bob!
February 20th '07, 11:42 PM
I see what ya tryin to do but that method would be a bit TOO harsh, and would ultimately just cause people to rebel.

Especially all the young slappers and so on would do it even more for the excitement of doing something "wrong", and ultimately when they did end up havin a baby, it would be a bit harsh on the child, even though its harsh having to grow up with an immature mum and so on.

Tommeh!!!
February 20th '07, 11:50 PM
nah it should be raised if anything. first off as a general rule your body isnt even fully developed at 16...especially for a girl and sex can cause irreversable damage (oh the bashings from sex health clinic nurses do stick i must say) and not only that with the bunch of irresponsible little cunt faces shits that are the kids of today...they should be fucking castrated anyway...hey, great idea...everyone should have to do a test to breed....if you fail...bye bye genitals/womb! ah im a genius!!

Deimos
February 21st '07, 12:08 AM
nah it should be raised if anything. first off as a general rule your body isnt even fully developed at 16...especially for a girl and sex can cause irreversable damage (oh the bashings from sex health clinic nurses do stick i must say) and not only that with the bunch of irresponsible little cunt faces shits that are the kids of today...they should be fucking castrated anyway...hey, great idea...everyone should have to do a test to breed....if you fail...bye bye genitals/womb! ah im a genius!!

Well, you construct paragraphs like an idiot, but I agree

At least I think I do >.>

Bob!
February 21st '07, 12:47 AM
He's basically following your theme of castration/permanent punishment.

Oh and he's always pissed or stoned so ya get used to it :P

Deimos
February 21st '07, 01:39 AM
oh, cool

*hugs Tommeh*

jem
February 21st '07, 11:30 AM
I dont think there should be a law at all.
no one cares what the legal age is. they do it when they wanna do it.
whether its made higher or made lower people will always have sex when they want to, not when theyre told that theyre allowed to.

Bob!
February 21st '07, 11:35 PM
But some do actually "wait till theyre legal".

Although I don't know the exact percentage, the law DOES stop some people or at least make them thing twice about it.

And sorry for generalising but I'd assume its especially more common with young teenage girls who are undecided about what theyre wanting, it can be some guidance or make people think a lil more at least.

Pearson
February 22nd '07, 03:00 PM
To be honest I dont think anybody cares about the law, and why should they, its not like its ever enforced.....I mean who here knows anyone thats been done for having sex under the age of 16?

OMFGIDC
February 22nd '07, 10:39 PM
I dont think there should be a law at all.
no one cares what the legal age is. they do it when they wanna do it.
whether its made higher or made lower people will always have sex when they want to, not when theyre told that theyre allowed to.Not true for everyone.

OMFGIDC
February 22nd '07, 10:41 PM
To be honest I dont think anybody cares about the law, and why should they, its not like its ever enforced.....I mean who here knows anyone thats been done for having sex under the age of 16?I do...

Deimos
February 22nd '07, 10:42 PM
Which is really why we need a government like the one in 1984..

josh101
February 24th '07, 01:01 AM
If the law was changed to younger than 16....believe me there would be alot more younger mothers.....alot more depression....and alot morer seuicide attemps bcz of this....basically i cant understand why u wouuld even think its okk to hav sex at 13...imagine if you became pregnant...ur whole life...over!!!!!!i think the law should be atleast 18!!!!!!!!! It would be alot safer for everybody, and make our country alot less populated, and there would be less single young mothers about the place, who are living off benefits and in council fats/houses!!!!

Deimos
February 24th '07, 09:16 AM
Or Brave New World, their system was also good.

Junije
February 25th '07, 11:46 PM
I agree with Josh, there would be alot more younger mothers, not to mention family problems in the future...

OMFGIDC
February 27th '07, 01:05 AM
I disagree with raising the age limit, too.
I think 16 is a good age.

Sea Bisquick
February 27th '07, 04:18 AM
I have to say to this topic that whatever the age is people still will do it, but that if the age is lower that it will be easier to be aware about everything and if someone would want advice or that, it would be easier so that really it would be safer even though that does not seem the case if the age is lower.

iaxa
February 27th '07, 06:19 AM
lol if u were knocked up at 13 that would fuck u up inside so bad... me a prefer to avoid sex just cause of the fact condoms can break.

Bob!
February 27th '07, 07:50 PM
The advice and all that is already available, especially to young mothers and so on as they need it, also a lot of places are confidential and so on as well so thats no excuse.

Being "more aware" of it would simple make em do it more.

Kerry
February 27th '07, 07:57 PM
If people are gonna do it there gonna do it no matter what the law is. But I think 16 is a good age.

Necrology
March 3rd '07, 01:36 AM
I think that the law should stay as is, but needs to be more strictly enforced.

Matt Dub
March 4th '07, 11:49 PM
Alright I know I live in a small town and all but I've watched plenty of cop shows like CSI to know that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor, and a minor is under 18, why is everyone saying its 16?

Leon
March 5th '07, 12:16 AM
Alright I know I live in a small town and all but I've watched plenty of cop shows like CSI to know that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor, and a minor is under 18, why is everyone saying its 16?The law is 16 in Britain
People are allowed to have sex at the age of 16 by law here.

Deimos
March 5th '07, 11:44 PM
Yeah, Britain is silly.

Gardens
March 6th '07, 01:59 AM
um...in america there is no law....geez....what does that tell you about the u.s??? haha...i think its good that there is a law...16 is the perfect age....you know...if people can be mature about it. But if you are younger, and your sexual partner is the same age, then I think thats okay...so long as youre not all giggly and immature about.

Deimos
March 6th '07, 05:53 AM
*thinks people should be pre-matched with a partner based on DNA*

That way, I'd have a chance!

Gardens
March 6th '07, 04:10 PM
That way, I'd have a chance!

omg lol...

buthy-13
March 6th '07, 06:23 PM
simply...hell no!

OMFGIDC
March 13th '07, 11:12 PM
How is Britain silly?
Because it's legal to have sex at 16?
I think 18 is too steep of an age.

Glamour_Love
March 16th '07, 06:30 AM
Well I'm sixteen now, but I did have sex before I became 'legal'. The whole law side of things didn't really come into it for me, it was mine and my boyfriend's choice when the time was right. I think the age the law has set now is reasonable, most teenagers are mature enough to handle sex by sixteen and for those that're ready before then it's their personal choice as to wait. The TS said they'd like to see it lowered to thirteen, I have a younger sister who is that old and she and none of her friends are anyway near mature enough to take on the possible consequences of having sex. At the end of the day thirteen year olds are still children. So yes, I think the age now is suitable, there's always gonna be people who have sex before then, like myself, or after then but it is there to protect the more vunerable etc teenagers.

Deimos
March 18th '07, 05:18 AM
most teenagers are mature enough to handle sex by sixteen

lmao

Bob!
March 18th '07, 05:29 PM
lol, if so many teenagers were mature enough to handle it, then why is teenage pregnancy very very common nowdays, to households where they havto get their own parents to look after the child as much as possible and so on.

To me, ending up having to bring a child into a household that does not have adequate income, parents that do not have the ability to balance it round their own work/life careers, and also are not mature or have enough experience to be able to give the right amount of support to the child well, that does not seem pretty mature or responsible.

xMissIzzyx
March 23rd '07, 07:42 AM
To me, ending up having to bring a child into a household that does not have adequate income, parents that do not have the ability to balance it round their own work/life careers, and also are not mature or have enough experience to be able to give the right amount of support to the child..
hence the CHAV is born and bred :P

Bob!
March 23rd '07, 02:12 PM
Exactly. :P

Innamorata
March 23rd '07, 02:23 PM
Scary!

Pluperfect
April 14th '07, 01:46 PM
In most countries, two people below the age of sixteen can do the nasty with each other if both agree, but they can't do it with someone older, which I think is pretty fair. I don't know if it's like that in the U.S., but here in Denmark where I live, that's the rule.
Even if it's different elsewhere, no, I don't think they should lower the age limit, 'cause most teenagers are, no matter what they themselves believe, not mature enough to be having sex. Teenage pregnancy is becoming more and more common, and I think that's scary. Something like that can wreck the rest of your life, and even if you use protection, it can still happen. There's no full guarantee.

Besides, I think people aren't taking it seriously enough these days. A lot of teenagers want it done 'cause it's apparently cool or something, and even peopel in the 20's are fooling around with anyone with a pulse and a functioning thing. It's their choice though. :hmmm:

Kate
April 14th '07, 06:48 PM
FFS.
"Teenagers should be allowed to make their own decisions"
Corse they should.
But teenage girls under the age of 18 who have sex, are more likely to get cervital cancer.
Personally i think the age should be lowered to 13.
But its probably more sensible to keep it as it is.
Haha, how can you stop people having sex anyway, its an unlogical law.

Bob!
April 14th '07, 07:20 PM
Its a psychological deterrent for some people, not a solid prevention :P

Plus as said, a lot of people will do things because it feels "naughty" and rebellious to them, especially with current days attitude of doing whats "cool" and so on or whatever gets the most attention, e.g breaking the law by doing such things.

Now due to these attitudes, what do ya think would happen if it was actually lowered to 13....

(I know ya realised its more sensible staying at 16, but I'm jus tryin to get people to think of the psychological effects that are the reasoning of it being at what it is now, even though its not as effective anymore)

Kate
April 14th '07, 07:45 PM
Ummm. Ahhhh.
Shut up.
If they get pregnant, its their fault. If they get an STI, its their fault. If they get cervital cancer, its their fault.
We should just inform them of the risks from an early age, and let them make the decision.

Bob!
April 14th '07, 08:17 PM
Which for children 13 and under especially, along with current days attitudes to such things, will be the wrong one. :P

Its true saying that people can make the choice on their own and if they make a bad one then its their own fault but, when ya take into account exactly how many are going to do that then it obviously aint so light a decision to let em have without at least some kind of deterrent, especially if a full prevention can't be introduced.

Kate
April 14th '07, 08:22 PM
Bob.
Its their choice.
You're practically making excuses for them.
"Stop it now"

Fez
April 14th '07, 10:19 PM
use a condom every time kids. it may not be as pleausurer.. but there are some good ones out there o.O
i dont see anything wrong with sex.. underage sex. but you just gotta use a condom for protection and not only that but to prevent pregnancy. most people arent mature enough to raise a kid. not to mention they dont have enough money..

Leon R
April 15th '07, 08:00 PM
Nah tbh, its bad enough as it is.

I mean come on, 13, hell people are already doin it around 12 nowdays, just aint right. Ya bodies arnt made for it at that age, plus with girls naturally goin for older blokes it just makes it plain wrong lol.

No the law needs to stay.

actually given the fact that in the past the human body would only live for 40-30 years at most i think u body can handle sex at 13 no problem its kind of an emotional and social problem that would most effect you

and since when was there a law? i have never herd of it

Innamorata
April 15th '07, 08:06 PM
Your body can't handle sex at 13, it can handle sex when you've hit puberty and your body is developed enough. That doesn't always happen at 13.

Bob!
April 15th '07, 09:29 PM
and since when was there a law? i have never herd of it

In England its breaking the law to have sex with a minor, (under 16)

Some other countries probably do have similar laws, I think the main part is so child molesters and so on can be properly punished, but the rest is probably a psychological deterrent.

And thats true Inna, moreso its that the female body matures through puberty to be able to properly bear a child, take note o what happens to ya all now, hips widen, breasts grow and so on. So the point is not to have sex too early because if the worst happens and ya end up havin a child (as most are nowdays) its better if ya bodys more equipped to bear it.

Eddie125
April 15th '07, 09:35 PM
If you wanna have sex when youre younger then 16 then you should be mature enough to know the consequences.

Leon R
April 16th '07, 01:59 AM
If you wanna have sex when youre younger then 16 then you should be mature enough to know the consequences.

or your just stupid

fraggled
April 16th '07, 04:29 AM
Well I'm sixteen now, but I did have sex before I became 'legal'. The whole law side of things didn't really come into it for me, it was mine and my boyfriend's choice when the time was right.
I hope you were mature enough to pay attention to the trojan commercials too.


I have a younger sister who is that old and she and none of her friends are anyway near mature enough to take on the possible consequences of having sex
Its not about if she is mature enough to understand the consequences, its about if she is "smart" enough to understand what YES and NO is, the law takes no discretion as to whether or not you are stupid in a general sense or if you are immature, immaturity wont save you from murder charges, its about if you can understand what YES and NO is and have the basic ability to think, its the difference between being charged with murder and not, which is why alot of states don't charge murder if the age is under 7 years.


At the end of the day thirteen year olds are still children.
Do you live in your parents house? Do they pay your bills? Did they help you pay for your car? Do they still pay for your food? Are you still in high school? Then you qualify as a child too my friend, as my grandpa always said, you arent a man or woman till you move out of your parents house, pay your own bills and buy your own food. Till then you are but a child.


So yes, I think the age now is suitable, there's always gonna be people who have sex before then, like myself, or after then but it is there to protect the more vunerable etc teenagers.
Thats good, but if you think its suitable why did you "violate" it? Obviously something in your head snapped that maybe it didn't apply to you? Or maybe its not so suitable? What made you so "mature" to decide this? If the rule is SO GOOD then why did you violate it? Obviously you need to think deeper into the subject?


I think the age the law has set now is reasonable, most teenagers are mature enough to handle sex by sixteen.
In the last 10 years child / teenage pregnancy caused by minors having sex has more then trippled, the school here where I live has around 100 kids who are pregnant thats 1/10 of the entire school. That is a high percentage don't you think? Hmmm.....Most of them are all between the ages of 15 and 17, so mature eh? Most kids can't even stay out of recks, control their tempers and keep their grades above a C average, therefore, if you can't grip the basics of life before full blown life kicks you in the head then you obviously arent mature enough.

I think the you, the op, are confusing age of consent with legal standpoints. There is no law against having sex in any country, just laws against having sex with a minor, this doesnt include if you are a minor or the age (dependant on prosecutor) is under / or 3 years. For example if he is 13 and she is 13 there is no law to stop it. Unless of course you claim rape, and unless of course there is circumstantial evidance, but thats a completly different animal. Age of consent is only the age that legally if someone has sex with you can say you were old enough to consent therefore you are "suppsodily smart" enough to accept the consequences. Its the cut off for you to say, I was taken advantage of. Dependant on state and country it usually ranges from 14 to 16. Im no lawyer so insert fancy not responsible stuff here.

Forumfavorite
April 16th '07, 04:30 AM
There is no law well here in Cali that says how old you have to be.

fraggled
April 16th '07, 04:40 AM
There is no law well here in Cali that says how old you have to be.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/california.htm

Forumfavorite
April 16th '07, 04:43 AM
so you can have sex with a minor if you are one but they can't be more then 3 years older or younger?

fraggled
April 16th '07, 04:56 AM
so you can have sex with a minor if you are one but they can't be more then 3 years older or younger? If you are over 21 and have sex with somone under the age of 16 its illegal. If you are 16 legally you can have sex with anyone over the age of 13, this doesn't remove you from possible civil suites though, if you are under 21 and have sex with someone more then 3 years difference its illegal.

Gardens
April 16th '07, 05:56 AM
i dont think there are laws about age at all in USA.

But it is illegal for ppl over the age of 18 to have sex with minors.



There is no law well here in Cali that says how old you have to be.