Non-Christian and Christian dating. Right or wrong?

[Monkey]

I'm really lucky to have my lovely boyfriend. He's the most amazing person i have ever met!

We're really close and our relationship is very special. Like nothing i've ever been in before.

We're close enough to think about marriage but he's not sure whether it's allowed because he's very Christian. His own mother told him she would think he was making a mistake if he chose to marry me which is heartbreaking as he is ever so close to his mum.

Thoughts? Advice?

Will post some more stuff when i think of something.

xx

[Leon]

You should be allowed to marry whoever you want, who cares what his parents think.

[del girl]

... or their religon

no offence to his mum but thats not a v christian veiw... surely everyone should be treated the same

I'm a devote atheist who thinks christian ppl have been brain washed yet i'm nuts about the the most religous guy i've ever met!

u can't choose who u fall in love with...

[Leon]

I notice also it's only the Christians usually that have the problem with it in this situation.

Rarely you hear it is because the atheist isn't into religion (apart from the poster above I guess.)

[Pearson]

Well hold on, how old are you? And are you just marrying him to have sex with him if he's very religious.

[VraiCanon]

As said, you can't choose who you fall in love with.
In some respects - an inter-religious relationship could cause a few problems , but if you're in love then you can work through them & it won't matter. :)

[Innamorata]

I don't think religion should stop people from dating, but personally I couldn't date anyone religious (apart from God, obv).

[Leon]

I don't think religion should stop people from dating, but personally I couldn't date anyone religious (apart from God, obv).I was gonna say that can't be right :P

[Innamorata]

Har :P

[Monkey]

Well hold on, how old are you? And are you just marrying him to have sex with him if he's very religious.

we're only 14 so yeah i know its miles off. but he's the kind of guy who really thinks ahead and because of the Christianity thing we sort of have to look ahead.

Course im not! i want to marry him because i am in love with him. The prospect of sex hadn't even crossed my mind. xx

[Monkey]

As said, you can't choose who you fall in love with.
In some respects - an inter-religious relationship could cause a few problems , but if you're in love then you can work through them & it won't matter. :)

that's how i feel. i love him so much i dont really care about what reliogion he is. In fact i probably love him more becuase of it.

[Pearson]

we're only 14 so yeah i know its miles off. but he's the kind of guy who really thinks ahead and because of the Christianity thing we sort of have to look ahead.

Course im not! i want to marry him because i am in love with him. The prospect of sex hadn't even crossed my mind. xx

Well no, wait 10 years. IMO, you're by far too young to even consider it.

[fraggled]

Never too young, never too old, just too dumb.

[orly]

You're only 14. You aren't even ALLOWED to get married yet. Worry about that when you come to it. Who knows? You guys could break up in a week.

Shew, dumb little kids worrying about things they shouldn't. :D

[fraggled]

WTF, you are like 2 minutes older, who are you to say "Dumb Little Kids". And no you are wrong, SHE IS ALLOWED to get married, if her parents say she can ;), I suggest you take a fine look at the law.

[Monkey]

thank you! thank you =)

aaaanyways, the point of mentioning marriage was to show how serious we are. I just wondered what you lot thought of it. xx

[orly]

A year, actually.



Yeah she may be able to, but do you really think a parent is going to allow their child to get married to someone being only 14. While I take a look at the law you might want to get common sense. DURR! :bs:

[Innamorata]

In England, you have to be 16 to get married with your parent's permission. I don't know what America is on, letting 14 year olds get married.

[orly]

...yeah see I don't think you can get married at 14.


Pft, so I guess I was right. :O

[fraggled]

That's bullshit. The English law is right (as Lucie stated), but American law is by State, NOT BY FEDERAL LAW ;). You should know this living in the US, if you do infact live in the US.

In your state you cannot get married under 16 UNLESS, you are pregnant. Good thing you know how to look up statutes :-\.

"If either partner is under 18, parental consent forms must be signed. You will need a certified copy of your birth certificate. In case of pregnancy when either party is under 16, the clerk authorized to issue marriage licenses in the county or city wherein the female resides shall issue a proper marriage license with the consent of the parent or guardian of the person or persons under the age of 16 only upon presentation of a doctor's certificate showing he has examined the female and that she is pregnant, or has been pregnant within the nine months previous to such examination, which certificate shall be filed by the clerk, and such marriage consummated under such circumstances shall be valid."

However, in the state of Kansas (where I live) you can marry at the age of 15 as long as your parents consent, now this doesn't go to say that there might be finer points to this law, if your parents are dead, you can seek a judges permission to get married. There is no requirement to be pregnant in the state of Kansas. In other states, you can marry as little as 14 years old. Again, do your fucking research.

[Kate]

dumb little kids

Shut the fuck up. You're only 1 year older, faggot.

[nyx]

In your state you cannot get married under 16 UNLESS, you are pregnant. Good thing you know how to look up statutes :-\.


Thats an insane law. Specially if sex is illegal under the age of 16 (which i'm guessing it is).

[fraggled]

Thats an insane law. Specially if sex is illegal under the age of 16 (which i'm guessing it is).

No, it's not. Depending on state. In the US laws are far more structured and defined then the UK. 13 and above is Legal as LONG as there is one of the following:
Less Then 3 Years age Difference
Under 18, if Engaging in sex with a minor.Now note, if you are over 18 and have sex with somebody less then 3 years younger then you, and they are a minor, you could slide by depending on the county prosecutor. But you shouldn't push it, because prosecutors have days, and there is a 30 year time period they can still charge you for "sexual misconduct". If you are under 18, and 13 or older, the 3 year difference still applies.

Some prosecutors can and will go after you for more then 3 years difference, under 18 or not. Some prosecutors will go after you if you are over 18, even if there is a 3 or under year difference.

In the state of Kansas, it is illegal to have "butt sex" even if you are under 18, no matter what, and it's legal to have sex. And if you are over 18 and engage in "butt sex" with a minor, you will be locked up for quite some time.

The problem you run into in the US, is the following, some guy 28, is dating some girl 16, and some girl is having sex with some guy, in some states, this is legal, in some states it's not, some guy will still get arrested if the parents push it. Not for having sex, but because of slick prosecutors, and kidnapping laws. She is still under 18, and the parents did not consent to it ;).

[I Am Jake]

America have weird laws.. who would want to get married at 15 anyways?! Where would you go for the stag night? McDonalds?

[nyx]

No, it's not. Depending on state. In the US laws are far more structured and defined then the UK. 13 and above is Legal as LONG as there is one of the following:
Less Then 3 Years age Difference
Under 18, if Engaging in sex with a minor.

That actually makes some amount of sense.

And I'd laugh if it was actually termed "butt sex" in the legislature.

[fraggled]

In the Legislature it's termed "Sodomy" and "Sodomize", but I prefer to use more blunt and understanding terms :p

[Leon]

So in America you're allowed to first have sex, then a couple of years later get married, then 4/5 years later drink legally.

That's really fucked up if you ask me.

[orly]

Shut the fuck up. You're only 1 year older, faggot.

suck my dick, bitch.

[orly]

That's bullshit. The English law is right (as Lucie stated), but American law is by State, NOT BY FEDERAL LAW ;). You should know this living in the US, if you do infact live in the US.

In your state you cannot get married under 16 UNLESS, you are pregnant. Good thing you know how to look up statutes :-\.

"If either partner is under 18, parental consent forms must be signed. You will need a certified copy of your birth certificate. In case of pregnancy when either party is under 16, the clerk authorized to issue marriage licenses in the county or city wherein the female resides shall issue a proper marriage license with the consent of the parent or guardian of the person or persons under the age of 16 only upon presentation of a doctor's certificate showing he has examined the female and that she is pregnant, or has been pregnant within the nine months previous to such examination, which certificate shall be filed by the clerk, and such marriage consummated under such circumstances shall be valid."

However, in the state of Kansas (where I live) you can marry at the age of 15 as long as your parents consent, now this doesn't go to say that there might be finer points to this law, if your parents are dead, you can seek a judges permission to get married. There is no requirement to be pregnant in the state of Kansas. In other states, you can marry as little as 14 years old. Again, do your fucking research.


As I said before, what parent would allow their child to get married at a young age- unless the mother/father is on drugs. So, it might as well be a law not to get married until an adult, BUT NO! there is some dumbass of a mother or father (who shouldn't have even had the kid in the first place) who let their child get married and ruin everything. So, I might as well be right.

So, while I do research, gain some common sense.

[I Am Jake]

suck my dick, bitch.

Comments like that are not needed.

[Kerry]

suck my dick, bitch.She was just saying and she was right, there's no need to talk to her like that, bloody hell. :|


Comments like that are not needed.
Exactly.


As I said before, what parent would allow their child to get married at a young age- unless the mother/father is on drugs. So, it might as well be a law not to get married until an adult, BUT NO! there is some dumbass of a mother or father (who shouldn't have even had the kid in the first place) who let their child get married and ruin everything. So, I might as well be right.

I have read about it actually, in some magazine I buy, their parents were completely capable of having children.
You can't say just because they get married early, they have parents who are one drugs, because you're not right.
Although it may not be common for someone to let their kids to get married at 14, it might be possible, that doesn't mean to say they're a bad mother. It isn't the best choice, no, but there could be reasons, you can't judge and say they are on drugs or are a bad mother when you don't know them.


gain some common sense.
Take your own advice too.

[Monkey]

can this orly person chill out a bit maybe?

blimey it's only some law!!

and where's the fun in common sense??

[orly]

You guys obviously don't see the sarcasm I *tried* to show with my previous post.
I do not have a dick. I would not anyone like that get near my dick (if I had one)....haha see the sarcasm now?

[God.]

If you think that was sarcasm, you don't know its meaning.

[Kate]

If you think that was sarcasm, you don't know its meaning.

x2.

Blatently, your penis is removable and is stored in a box.

[Leon]

I'd kick yours, if you had one of course. ;)

But you don't, so it's all a light hearted sarcastic comment.

[orly]

x2.

Blatently, your penis is removable and is stored in a box.


OH EM GEE, how did you figure that out? Look through my windows much? :D

[orly]

To the Kerry person because I don't really feel like "quoting" them:

Yeah allowing their child to get married before the age of 18 (or whatever is legal wherever you live) doesn't mean the parent is on drugs, but it does mean they're a bad parent. The kid is underage! It has it's whole life infront of them and to let them hurt their future like that takes a parent with no GOOD parenting skills.

So maybe I should rephrase myself.. A parent who would let their child get married before the legal age has very bad parenting skills and should've kept their legs closed/penis in their pants. Yep.

:D

Plus, even if a girl was preggo it still wouldn't be right for them to get married. Look at all the divorces with people 25+...even with kids their marraige still fails. So why let your 15 year old kid get married?

Oh, and I have some pretty good common sense, thanks.

[orly]

If you think that was sarcasm, you don't know its meaning.


sar·casm
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.


& FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT IRONY IS:

i·ro·ny
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature.
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b.(esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion. 3. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.



Take your pick.

[orly]

I WUD CH00Z NUMBA TW0 0F DA FiRST W0N!


Shiz.

[God.]

sar·casm
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.


& FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT IRONY IS:

i·ro·ny
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature.
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b.(esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion. 3. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.



Take your pick.

All that shows is that you couldn't type the definition of sarcasm yourself, thus proving my point.

[Leon]

^ I was going to say exactly the same.

[orly]

No it doesn't prove your point.
You said if what I said was sarcasm I don't know what sarcasm is, however, the definition from dictionary.com cleary states that what I said is, in fact, sarcasm. (BTW believe it or not, I looked the word sarcasm up when you said I didn't know what sarcasm was..)

I looked it up on dictionary.com because I knew whatever I said sarcasm was it'd be questioned- so so so I might as well asure you with the definition given to me from dictionary.com so I wouldn't be questioned on what sarcasm really is.

[Monkey]

if all you're gonna do is insult people and try and prove yourself right, orly. can i suggest you get lost? ye aint makin no mateys here land-lubber (its talk like a pirate day btw)

[Kate]

suck my dick, bitch.

Go to hell, faggot.

Stop patronising 14 year olds and grow up yourself.

[Pearson]

thank you! thank you =)

aaaanyways, the point of mentioning marriage was to show how serious we are. I just wondered what you lot thought of it. xx

I dont think there's anything wrong with the original question to this thread; but at 14 you shouldnt be thinking of marriage, alot of things are going to change from now, and yeah you might be right to marry him but whats the rush? There's no point in rushing into a lifelong commitment when you're so young. You're going to change from now, and so is he. But that's not the point really, just dont rush into anything potentially daft. You're still a kid.

[fraggled]

As I said before, what parent would allow their child to get married at a young age- unless the mother/father is on drugs. So, it might as well be a law not to get married until an adult, BUT NO! there is some dumbass of a mother or father (who shouldn't have even had the kid in the first place) who let their child get married and ruin everything. So, I might as well be right.

So, while I do research, gain some common sense.


Wow, you are stupid. No really, have you asked your local school about housing for the mentally challenged? I would be glad to send you informations on your rights as a retard (politically correct?) in the US. ;)

[Pearson]

(politically correct?) It couldnt be any further from politically correct. Not that I have a problem with it.

[orly]

Go to hell, faggot.

Stop patronising 14 year olds and grow up yourself.

Go to hell? Already am.

:], it's the internet so if I want to act like a little kid..I will act like a little kid. Just deal with it.

[orly]

Wow, you are stupid. No really, have you asked your local school about housing for the mentally challenged? I would be glad to send you informations on your rights as a retard (politically correct?) in the US. ;)

Why would I need to go to a housing development for mentally challenged people when I have a perfectly good house here? LAWLS! YEW FUNNY!

HOWEVER, if you do want to send some extra cash money..I'll make sure it goes straight to the future housing development I will be going to. Promise.

[fraggled]

Why would I need to go to a housing development for mentally challenged people when I have a perfectly good house here? LAWLS! YEW FUNNY!

HOWEVER, if you do want to send some extra cash money..I'll make sure it goes straight to the future housing development I will be going to. Promise.

Using redundant terms and not understanding simple English Statements now are we?

[Darts]

I dont think there's anything wrong with the original question to this thread; but at 14 you shouldnt be thinking of marriage, alot of things are going to change from now, and yeah you might be right to marry him but whats the rush? There's no point in rushing into a lifelong commitment when you're so young. You're going to change from now, and so is he. But that's not the point really, just dont rush into anything potentially daft. You're still a kid.

Aaah pearson, this is definitely one of your better posts. Fills one with inspiration, so it does. It doesnt mean you arent necessarily right fo each other, but why commit now when you can build up your commitment over time and make it so much stronger? And then, if something happens, which it might not, it isnt binding so you can start afresh. Make life easier for yourself!

[orly]

Using redundant terms and not understanding simple English Statements now are we?

I suppose so...well are you going to send some money? I sware it'll go straight to the "Cure for Mental Illness" foundation.

[NewAbortion]

I see no problem with it. HOWEVER, the Bible very clearly states Christians and non-Christians shouldn't date, let alone marry.

~Maggot

[x_Bunny]

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Corinthians 6:14 (King James Version)

So Really, He Shouldn't Be Dating You.

Although, Agreed That You Can't Choose Who You Fall In Love With... I'm A Jesus Freak, Fell In Love With A Muslim.. So Obviously You Can't Choose Who You Fall In Love With. Aslong As His Religion Doesn't Get In The Way Of Things I Think You Would Be Okay... If You Are Thinking Ahead (Marriage And Children) Are Your Children Going To Be Christians Or Non-Believers? Your Wedding... Is It Going To Be In A Church?

As For His Mother, Tell Her No One Can Judge Your Boyfriend For Marrying You But God.