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lana_homeschool
March 21st '06, 12:23 PM
Last year my best friend and me used to fool around when I slept at her house - sleeping nude in same bed touching eachother boobs/privates a lot etc. - but we never called eachother LoVeRs. We say to eachother we are just best friends, and we both now have boyfriends anyway! But sometimes when we watch movies together last week and 2 weeks before that we kiss and cuddle a lot. Its not french kissing but its on the lips and the cuddling is just chest2chest not grinding. Not really sexual but is it going to far is it like cheating on our bfs? I'm not a cheat so hope its not :(

Shane
March 21st '06, 01:21 PM
Girls kiss and cuddle all the time. It's not cheating.

If you do what you were doing before then it is. :)

lana_homeschool
March 21st '06, 02:39 PM
coolies shane :) + maybe even we might kiss in front of my bf because guys like to see girls kissing! but yep we don't do sex anymore so no danger of hurting bfs :)

Brianna.
March 21st '06, 02:44 PM
You know, for being a homeschooler, you certainly aren't afraid to explore your bounderies...wow.

I know that my friends and I never kiss and cuddle...and I thought you said you were a virgin. I might be wrong, though.

Shane
March 21st '06, 02:47 PM
I thought people classed themselves as virgins if they have not had penetrative sex. :S

Brianna.
March 21st '06, 02:48 PM
Technically, but if you've had someone stick their hands down there and finger you then it pretty much counts, at least in my mind.

Silver_Bullet
March 21st '06, 02:56 PM
I believe its cheatin, if your being intimate with anyone other than the person your with then it is un less the person that your with is ok with it. I dont know, I am a traditionalist on most things so your views and the worlds might be different. I wont justify it but it is your choice.

lana_homeschool
March 21st '06, 03:07 PM
You know, for being a homeschooler, you certainly aren't afraid to explore your bounderies...wow.

I know that my friends and I never kiss and cuddle...and I thought you said you were a virgin. I might be wrong, though.

yes ima virgin but my gf has touched between legs but not deep fingering just lil rubs. yer i have to try my boundaries or else i won't be sexually happy enough as im really into it :):):)

lana_homeschool
March 21st '06, 03:11 PM
I believe its cheatin, if your being intimate with anyone other than the person your with then it is un less the person that your with is ok with it. I dont know, I am a traditionalist on most things so your views and the worlds might be different. I wont justify it but it is your choice.

yeh its a hard decision but i think if have to choose umm im not sure really. but umm ill tell my bf that me and my gf are really into kissing and cuddling but just as best friends not lovers and ill see if hes ok :)

Sponge'K'nob
March 21st '06, 03:18 PM
like shane said, girls kiss cuddle etc.
though i never kiss any of my girl mates, i just hug every1, im very huggable haha.
You ever thought you are a lesbian?
i mena when i went to sleepovers when i was younger sometimes we had to sleep in same bed but never naked, or ever touch eachother *confuzzed*
yeah i'd say your a virgin cos u technically havnt had sex.
but you really need to decide who you are, and dont just kiss a lass cos guys like it, lets face it, no1 likes to share.
you need to think if your straight, lesbian or bi.

lana_homeschool
March 21st '06, 03:45 PM
like shane said, girls kiss cuddle etc.
though i never kiss any of my girl mates, i just hug every1, im very huggable haha.
You ever thought you are a lesbian?
i mena when i went to sleepovers when i was younger sometimes we had to sleep in same bed but never naked, or ever touch eachother *confuzzed*
yeah i'd say your a virgin cos u technically havnt had sex.
but you really need to decide who you are, and dont just kiss a lass cos guys like it, lets face it, no1 likes to share.
you need to think if your straight, lesbian or bi.

i'm definite bisexual because i adore men like crazy + when i make out with gfs i luv it and luv their bodies BUT never been in love with a girl just a guy (my new bf!). so i think i'm bi if its about which sex i want to have sex with :):)

SG's lil babe
March 21st '06, 04:34 PM
I'm bisexual and have been in a relationship with a guy and girl. If you're being intimate with another person then I feel it is cheating. It depends, would you feel happy with your boyfriend kissing a girl and rubbing against her- especially if they had been sort of lovers before?

Bob!
March 21st '06, 04:42 PM
Whoa, kinky or woot, bi girls rule :P

But anyways if ya just do lil light kissing and stuff now its not really cheating as thats no more than most girls do anyway, but I still think you should let yer boyfriend know about it and find out his feelings on the matter just so that if ya do end up doing any more in the future, you'll know if itl hurt him or not.

He might be ok with it tho and join in so, best lettin him know yer feelins either ways :P

kalie_neill
March 21st '06, 07:02 PM
no its not, i mean i peck my friends every once and a while but i would not call it cheating lol Its juss for fun, i lay with my friends, nuthing rlly like thta but i mean we lay with each other and peck sometimes

lana_homeschool
March 22nd '06, 02:47 PM
i told my bf that i'm bisexual or bi-curious and that my gf is bi and that we've had a physical relationship b4 but don't anymore. He said he thinks bi girls are sexier and he would like to watch me making out with my gf. He said he wants me to invit my gf to the beach with us. this is like the best news i've EVER had :)

Mattimadhead
March 22nd '06, 06:17 PM
no its strange as he is 23! Also you really think he loves you if he wants to invite you friend to the beach too? i think hes innit for the sex personally! and you shouldnt want ot kiss in front of him as he owuldnt liek being dragged around in front of girls just to see you kissing him ..

but boy do bi and les girls rock! (unless there paraletic drunk in which case it is hilarious...and disturbing)

Also i reck if youre bi your reward for putting up with the pressure andstuff u shoudl be able to have both a bf and a gf! or is that just being greedy?... like fat people with 3 chins

claire
March 23rd '06, 08:46 AM
lol.... guys do love the whole girls gerring it on with each other scene... i have no idea why though!

One time i walked into the toilets of one of my local bars n there was these two girls full on kissing and touching each other, to tell the truth it disturbed me. but then we saw em again on the dance floor with their boyfriends nd the two lasses started kissing again...

zyclonix
March 23rd '06, 09:30 AM
It's cheating for sure. You even confessed you're bisexual. Whether it's a guy or girl, if you're kissing, cuddling, sleeping in the same bed, groping each other, giving each other oral... call me an idiot but if that isn't an affair, I don't know what is.

claire
March 23rd '06, 10:30 AM
yeah but she's said the shared the same bed n groped each other before she was with her fella. Now they just kiss n cuddle which is what alot of girls do any ways. so i dunno.

Brianna.
March 23rd '06, 01:36 PM
I'm sorry, but I've never seen any of my girl friends kiss or cuddle...ever.

claire
March 23rd '06, 02:01 PM
well i don't either. neither do my friends. I'm just saying i see alot of kissy n cuddly girls about. Also i was just tellin zyclonix that she said she hasn't actually slept with or groped her `girlfriend` while she has been with her boyfriend.

Mattimadhead
March 23rd '06, 03:30 PM
I'm sorry, but I've never seen any of my girl friends kiss or cuddle...ever.

but youre american :p lol suly there soem tacky american tv shows at least like sabrina the teenage witch that show alot of kissin and cuddling with girls!

Mamfy
March 23rd '06, 05:14 PM
I think it's cheating. If your a bisexual, it means you can have a relationship with a guy or agirl. in which case if you are with a guy, doing anything with a girl is like cheating, because you like doing it to both.

How old is your boyfriend? I don't think he loves you because he just wants to see you get frisky with another girl and he will probably want to get into 3-somes and stuff. Not the right track to be going down at your age I think.

Please don't take to offence.

claire
March 23rd '06, 05:34 PM
actually yeah i agree with u mamfy. I wasn't thinking about the fact that she is bisexual which makes the situation different to if she was straight.

I think she's said her fella is 23. N yeah its probs a big turn on for him to see u n ya girlfriend getting it on with another girl. So if you love him don't do it. It will be a tester to see if he loves you by wether he sticks around or not!

Mamfy
March 23rd '06, 07:10 PM
23? Blimey. And you are 14? Whast do your parents or friends think about that? I'm sure he'd want someone 9 years younger than him to be having sex and doing dodgy things. Sorry, but that's weird.

Shane
March 23rd '06, 07:19 PM
but youre american :p lol suly there soem tacky american tv shows at least like sabrina the teenage witch that show alot of kissin and cuddling with girls!
10/10 on the lame factor. :P

ReAnImAtEd
March 23rd '06, 07:40 PM
if he wants you and another girl to kiss etc then i would seriously consider whether he loves you...my gf is bi and i dont want her doing anythin at all with another girl...cheating is cheating...boy, girl, animal :S it dnt matter its still not with the person you are commiting urself to.

Bob!
March 23rd '06, 08:17 PM
Aye, also the guys 23, so he wants not one but two girls about 8 years younger than him lol, its obvious hes just gonna take what he can get from ya, but now he wants even more.

Hevz
March 23rd '06, 08:28 PM
I personally feel it's cheatin it doesn't matta tht it's with another girl. Gay or bi ppl shud b treated the same as every1 else in every respect and if it was a straight couple wiv 1 of em doin stuff wiv sum 1 else then it wud b cheatin so why is this ne different?!
I also ave 2 agree it sounds 2 me like this lad ur wiv might just be after wot he can get and if he truely loves u then he wud want u all 2 himself!

Shane
March 23rd '06, 08:30 PM
Oh come on people. All girls hug and kiss. It's not cheating.
We don't even know if she has feeling for her friend whilst she is doing this. :P.......

Sponge'K'nob
March 23rd '06, 09:51 PM
she said somethings along those lines though shane....but i dont think its cheating

Guest
March 24th '06, 04:30 AM
Oh come on people. All girls hug and kiss. It's not cheating.
We don't even know if she has feeling for her friend whilst she is doing this. :P.......

That's because a lot of people are homosexuals - men and women alike. It's just that more women are willing to come out of the closet and express their affection for their own sex because society allows it, whereas men are typically castrated for the same behavior. I have a few gay friends and within the gay community, they believe bisexuality is a "front." The theory goes, they are homosexuals who are afraid to fully "come out." Food for thought.

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 03:37 PM
Shane, girls hug and kiss but they don't intimately do stuff that couples do, they don't snog each other if they are friends. I don't snog or feel up my girl friends.

Girls hug and peck on the cheek usually. Not more intimately.,

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:01 PM
its ok my gf's bf doesn't let her have sex with girls so we won't be. just nude sunbaking/rubs will have to do :)

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 04:03 PM
But why do that wehn you have aboyfriend?>

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:06 PM
I think it's cheating. If your a bisexual, it means you can have a relationship with a guy or agirl. in which case if you are with a guy, doing anything with a girl is like cheating, because you like doing it to both.

How old is your boyfriend? I don't think he loves you because he just wants to see you get frisky with another girl and he will probably want to get into 3-somes and stuff. Not the right track to be going down at your age I think.

Please don't take to offence.
i never done a 3-some, i don't want my gf to touch my bf :(

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 04:09 PM
Well then, you have to realise this. He likes to see you doing stuff to another girl because it turns him on so that might be the next step.

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:10 PM
actually yeah i agree with u mamfy. I wasn't thinking about the fact that she is bisexual which makes the situation different to if she was straight.

I think she's said her fella is 23. N yeah its probs a big turn on for him to see u n ya girlfriend getting it on with another girl. So if you love him don't do it. It will be a tester to see if he loves you by wether he sticks around or not!

thats a good idea about 'will he stick around if i dont do what he wants'. to tell the truth though i been imagining him watching me making out with my gf on the beach and it drove my body crazy :)

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:12 PM
Well then, you have to realise this. He likes to see you doing stuff to another girl because it turns him on so that might be the next step.

i never thought of that, it scares me if he does want to have sex with her

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:14 PM
But why do that wehn you have aboyfriend?>

cos shes irresistable :( i guess i have to choose

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 04:14 PM
But you're fine with him knowing your doing stuff with her?

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:24 PM
But you're fine with him knowing your doing stuff with her?

yep cos i don't think he minds. but i feel guilty like it feels wrong to be giving yourself to 2 ppl. thats why i dont have sex with my gf atm. but i want to. im not having sex with bf but hes touching my spot.

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 04:28 PM
You want to have sex with your girlfriend? Like, proper sex?

Brianna.
March 24th '06, 04:29 PM
Don't get me wrong...I don't have a problem with you, Lana, but it appears to me like you're making these posts and telling these stories for attention. There's nothing wrong with that, mind you, but it's not flattering.

claire
March 24th '06, 04:31 PM
well if you are craving sex from your girlfriend. Then i think its time you questioned whether you want to be in a lesbien or a straight relationship, cos you cant have it both ways!:)

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 04:32 PM
You can if you're Bi :P

claire
March 24th '06, 04:33 PM
lol you know what meant. i meant right now!

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:34 PM
You want to have sex with your girlfriend? Like, proper sex?

yep we did do proper sex before i met my bf, i slept with her alot as my parents let me stay at her house sometimes.

Brianna.
March 24th '06, 04:35 PM
...Now you're getting your stories messed up...because you claimed to be a virgin, and now you're claiming you've slept/had sex with your girlfriend...

That's contridicting.

claire
March 24th '06, 04:36 PM
a virgin to men maybe? jeez you lead a confusing life for a 15 year old me dear!

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:36 PM
well if you are craving sex from your girlfriend. Then i think its time you questioned whether you want to be in a lesbien or a straight relationship, cos you cant have it both ways!:)

yep i think ill choose between them but haven't decided yet. i think my bf could be winning because i keep thinking of having a man inside me for the first time ever very amazing sounding. :)

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:37 PM
...Now you're getting your stories messed up...because you claimed to be a virgin, and now you're claiming you've slept/had sex with your girlfriend...

That's contridicting.

im still a virgin. sex with girls doesnt take my v

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:38 PM
a virgin to men maybe? jeez you lead a confusing life for a 15 year old me dear!

yep sorry i just dont count sex with my gf as losing viginity, its just rubbing and fingers/licks, not penetrating like a real man would

Brianna.
March 24th '06, 04:39 PM
Sex is sex...you can't keep "reclaiming" your virginity by justifying it as "It was with a girl...dosen't count."

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:40 PM
oh ok well i haven't bled so yeh

claire
March 24th '06, 04:40 PM
ahh right. And it is amazing, with the right guy. also you have to be ready to move to that step. Don't rush into it.

So Smithy
March 24th '06, 04:40 PM
Last year my best friend and me used to fool around when I slept at her house - sleeping nude in same bed touching eachother boobs/privates a lot etc. - but we never called eachother LoVeRs. We say to eachother we are just best friends, and we both now have boyfriends anyway! But sometimes when we watch movies together last week and 2 weeks before that we kiss and cuddle a lot. Its not french kissing but its on the lips and the cuddling is just chest2chest not grinding. Not really sexual but is it going to far is it like cheating on our bfs? I'm not a cheat so hope its not :(
I think you not cheating but try and not get to attached or you might become in love and wont be able to stop thinking about each other, and if you think yyou are going to do this more and more you should spend lots of time with your bf and have some speciel time to get her off your mind.

i might not be the best for having gfs but i know how to treat someone with loving troubles.

Thnx for listning Paul Smith

claire
March 24th '06, 04:41 PM
oh ok well i haven't bled so yeh

Not everybody bleeds. I think its still makes you a non virgin cos you've slept with a lass!

Brianna.
March 24th '06, 04:42 PM
Same here....you called it proper sex, so if that's the case, you're not a virgin.

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 04:43 PM
oh ok :(

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 05:02 PM
Also, don't you think that if you have sex with him, he's either gonna boast, (which is unlikely) or he's gonna slag you off to his guy mates about how shit you are or whatever.

Don't you want to be with someone your own age? I mean, what do you have to talk about? Both your lives are too different

lana_homeschool
March 24th '06, 05:10 PM
Also, don't you think that if you have sex with him, he's either gonna boast, (which is unlikely) or he's gonna slag you off to his guy mates about how shit you are or whatever.

Don't you want to be with someone your own age? I mean, what do you have to talk about? Both your lives are too different

haven't got to know guys my age much because im schooled by my mom plus she doesn't let me go to many parties. when i look in his eyes im happy so its not about talkingbut we do talk about pro tennis players mostly because we both watch a lot :)

Mamfy
March 24th '06, 05:24 PM
What? Talking is the main part of a relationship. WIthout communication nothing gets done, and no one knows how one anothert feels.

It's one of the things you start off with in a stable relationship. it makes it secure. If you don't talk, you won't get very far. Sorry.

zyclonix
March 27th '06, 08:01 AM
You say he doesn't mind it but I dare you to sit him down one day and tell him, "Honey, I kiss my bestfriend, not in a girly way, but in an intimate way. I also grope her and give her oral. You think I do it for you, but I don't. I do it for myself because I get aroused from it. And I've been doing this with her behind your back thinking you wouldn't mind. And by the way, I'm bisexual."

You'll be lucky if he didn't dump you on the spot, let alone tear you apart lol.


What? Talking is the main part of a relationship. WIthout communication nothing gets done, and no one knows how one anothert feels.

It's one of the things you start off with in a stable relationship. it makes it secure. If you don't talk, you won't get very far. Sorry.

Communication is number one in any kind of strong relationship.

Sammi
March 27th '06, 07:19 PM
Personally I think you should show yourself a bit of respect. Calm down! Get to know the guy before you rush into anything. In fact, getting to know someone is the best part of a relationship.

Hevz
March 27th '06, 07:59 PM
I have 2 agree! gettin 2 no sum1 is deffo the best part! i wudn't want 2 do stuff wiv sum1 i dn't really talk 2 nt at ur age! findin stuff tht u av in common and talkin bout how u feel bout each other is all part of havin a relationship! and if "it's not about talkin!" then i think it shud b

PrincessAlice
March 27th '06, 08:04 PM
it is about talking lol i agree you have got to talk and argue so you can make up :naughty:

Ben
March 27th '06, 10:33 PM
fucking hell! O_O lol


Shane, girls hug and kiss but they don't intimately do stuff that couples do, they don't snog each other if they are friends. I don't snog or feel up my girl friends.

Girls hug and peck on the cheek usually. Not more intimately.,

good point.
and also, imagine this situation, but lana is doing sexual things (on the same level) with another guy, that would be seen as cheating.
but then again, if you don't like girls in the same way you like boys then that points something out too.

i'd say you're a virgin if you haven't had penetrative sexual intercourse.

i cheated on a gf in with another girl this way (at this level) once and i considered it cheating on her, which made me feel bad. i wouldnt do it again.

they say honesty is the best policy, but there's no point confessing something that's going to get you and him into trouble with eachother, and it won't solve anything.



You say he doesn't mind it but I dare you to sit him down one day and tell him, "Honey, I kiss my bestfriend, not in a girly way, but in an intimate way. I also grope her and give her oral. You think I do it for you, but I don't. I do it for myself because I get aroused from it. And I've been doing this with her behind your back thinking you wouldn't mind. And by the way, I'm bisexual."

You'll be lucky if he didn't dump you on the spot, let alone tear you apart lol.


this is a very good point. on soaps they always confess to stuff and it always ends in tears, they think they'll sort it all out and their bf is going to be fine but they just end up getting dumped or whatever and nothing get solved, all ends in hurt.

Bob!
March 27th '06, 11:04 PM
Rememebr this guy is 26 lol, he just wants the sex from her, he aint gunna be bothered as she said, will even like it that hes gunna get 2 young ones.

Ben
March 28th '06, 12:04 AM
he's 26???

w0000t that's madness! why do young girls always go for waaay older guys (ever notice that you always see girls your age going out with older guys but never see your mates going out with way younger girls)

i remember when i was in y7, and all the popular girls in my year were going out with y11 boys, but when i was in y11 it would have been sick for someone to be going out with a y7...weird.

that's like me or shane going out with 12/13 year olds...errrrr

CraigYohn!
March 28th '06, 04:36 AM
You can if you're Bi :P

Not at the same time, going out with a guy AND a girl, its either one or the other.
Its not fair really, unless everyone is ok with it......

Mamfy
March 28th '06, 04:58 AM
YEah I know. Don't worry, I wa just bein silleh :)

And Bob, he's 23 not 26

Bob!
March 28th '06, 05:08 AM
Like that makes a difference when its still wayyy over the boundary lol.

Mamfy
March 28th '06, 05:40 AM
True, true.

sam
April 2nd '06, 09:57 PM
i wunt b pleased if my gf was gettin randy wid her bst m8. doin da stuff u sed