Creationism vs. Evolution

[Frodo]

Yes. Discuss and explain... Or just discuss.

[Nammy]

This has been done to death and always ends up going in circles with one or both sides calling each other a tit. lol

[n0iZe]

You Tit!

[-Luke-]

Creationism is a tit!
:-P

[GemmaJamPot]

Its just the same as the Science Vs Religion arguement. One has proof, the other belief.

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[Carlton]

Yes. Discuss and explain... Or just discuss.

Creationism- Awesome

Stupid Evolution- SHIT

:)

[Frodo]

This has been done to death and always ends up going in circles with one or both sides calling each other a tit. lol
Oops. Well we can all be sure that this thread will soon die then; move on folks! :)

[Smartie Cookie]

Its just the same as the Science Vs Religion arguement. One has proof, the other belief.

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Actually the science part doesn't have complete, total, 100% proof actually.....

[Smartie Cookie]

Oops. Well we can all be sure that this thread will soon die then; move on folks! :)
lol if this were the faith vs science one I'd have it going on for centuries just with myself arguing with myself lol XD

[-Luke-]

Well science isnt fact, its just theories, as they can still be disapproved :)

[conor]

Actually the science part doesn't have complete, total, 100% proof actually.....

Well, actually.. it's called cosmic background radiation :D
The discovery got a Nobel Prize in Physics.

[Smartie Cookie]

Well, actually.. it's called cosmic background radiation :D
The discovery got a Nobel Prize in Physics.
I'm looking that thing up to make sure what is going through my mind is refering to the right thing then I will comment lol XD

[conor]

Lol Ok.
In summary, it is a proof of the Big Bang Theory based on detecting Microwaves that are actually left over from the Big Bang.

[Smartie Cookie]

ah yes big bang and what not lol I've had a big argument about that last year in geography class and got myself kicked out of the class room for the day... then there was an argument about Global warming.. got me kicked out of class during that one too. Only reason i got kicked out: I out smarted my teacher...... Then there was the mapping day when we made maps on the computer and I pointed out that my teacher read the instructions wrong.. got kicked out that time too... :D was even called a smart ass too XD. Geography class was fun XD lmao.
if I come down to basics. I don't believe in global warming, big bang or any of that, don't believe in evolution, and don't believe in the green gas effect either. yet here I am trying to get a science degree lol you can know the stuff but you don't necessarily have to believe it lol

[conor]

Ok.. that's strange XD
I can't understand the way your mind works; I'm going to stop trying because it's driving me mad!

Yeah I outsmart my teachers too often as well.
What I don't get is why you don't believe in proven facts. There's plenty of room for religion and even creationism in the Big Bang Theory btw.. At the beginning everything was condensed into one infitely small, infinitely dense particle.. but something had to create the particle!

On the other hand you might be right about Global Warming. Well, it is real, but it may have little to do with us. Incidentally, new research (like this year new :D) shows that there was an increase in the Earth's temperature before the last ice age.. and together with the fact that we're thousands of years overdue an ice age suggests that it might just be that; an ice-age. I wish we'd live long enough to see it :(

[Smartie Cookie]

Lol The concept of the big bang deceives my brain XD besides i believe that humans weren't meant to look into the past as they often do... hard to explain lol A saying "There is no such thing as teh future except for lies, the past WAS there but it isn't now and should only be used to learn short lessons, not dwelled on. Live in the present with no visits to the future an little to the past" (how I stay happy most of the time lately. stay away from the past and don't set myself up for failure by planning the future. Take life one step at a time"
I believe in heaven and hell but under a different circumstances than the bible - not going there I'll just turn your brain to mush lol
don't believe in global warming because well... during the whole summer last year my family and I had the air conditioner on for at least a month and this summer we have had it on for five days tops. At the moment I am shivering! so um when someone comes to me saying global warming is real I manage to pull off this: *cough* "Bullshit" *cough* *cough*
I might agree with that last line of yours tho lol

[conor]

Just because you don't like thinking about the past doesn't mean that the people who did look into the past were wrong!

[Smartie Cookie]

Just because you don't like thinking about the past doesn't mean that the people who did look into the past were wrong!
lol i don't think they are right because it's so hard for them to actually be 100% certain about something like this. Just one chromosome or mollicuel that long ago can change the whole story around. It's a theory, science is based on theories and probably about 75% of them are never proven wrong nor are they proven to be correct either.

[conor]

Eh.. no.
It's not based on molecules back then, it's based on microwaves they can detect now.
It is 100% proven. There are a few theories which aren't but the Big Bang theory isn't one of them.

[n0iZe]

Here's my way of thinking about this; Either you can do research and come up with a valid proof, or you can be lazy and blame everything on a higher power.

[Shane]

Here's my way of thinking about this; Either you can do research and come up with a valid proof, or you can be lazy and blame everything on a higher power.
My thoughts exactly. :)
Not understanding something and then deciding to give credit to "god" for it makes you even more stupid than simply not understanding it. :/

My opinion. :)

[lipgloss]

So...who's actually done some good research here?:)

[Carlton]

My thoughts exactly. :)
Not understanding something and then deciding to give credit to "god" for it makes you even more stupid than simply not understanding it. :/

My opinion. :)


valid point for a universal Quaker I suppose :P

[zakarius]

i belive in the big bang theory as thaty is what i have been pounded with since well primary scool, and im totally unreligious

global warming however has been proved to be more down to the power of sunspots than the amount of CO2 gas in our atmoshpere, and several extremem temperature flux's have been charted over our countries past and that global warming is a natural occurance, although i dont suppose it would harm our world to cut CO2?

also i belive in evolution as fossils show the change of skeletal structures over millions of years, although what i dont get is how they arent as smooth as id expect eveolution to be theyre kinda jumpy from one creature to the one evolved from it, tho i suppose we dont and probably never will have a completely complete fossil collection to see as skeletons can get damaged or lost due to tectonic movements etc...

[conor]

The funny thing is; people believe in God even though they realise that there are so many different religions with vastly different beliefs, and all were made up and changed as they went along to try and fit the world.. Stupid.

[Trollface.jpg]

the thing is science and religion while seeming to be taking opposing views are becoming closer together in what they can and cant explain

quantom phisics is what explains why everything does anything but scientists cannot explain why particles behave how they do and alot of them are turning to religion for the answer

[Rocksta]

I think Creationism is right, but I also think Evolution is right about some things. I might be going a little off-topic but, in geology there is Uniformitarianism and Catastrophism.

Uniformitarianism-The earth has taken millions and millions of years to form.(Kinda seen as the evolutionist view)
Catastrophism- The earth has been affected by sudden, short-lived, violent events that were sometimes worldwide in scope. ie. Noah's Flood (Seen as the Creationist view)

Uniformitarianism is right about somethings and Catastrophism is right about somethings. I believe that they are both right.

Same goes with Creationism and Evolution, the are both right and wrong about somethings.

[conor]

the thing is science and religion while seeming to be taking opposing views are becoming closer together in what they can and cant explain

quantom phisics is what explains why everything does anything but scientists cannot explain why particles behave how they do and alot of them are turning to religion for the answer

We may soon find out who's really right on Wednesday then ;) (When the LHC kicks off)

[Trollface.jpg]

is that particle accelerator that important that it will answer alot of stuff we dont know

[n0iZe]

Religion also seems like a placebo, or even means of control.

Believe in something good, so we don't go around killing each other. :/

[conor]

Religion also seems like a placebo, or even means of control.

Believe in something good, so we don't go around killing each other. :/

I agree, but I think the reason I don't go around killing people is my parents. Far more effective than religion.


is that particle accelerator that important that it will answer alot of stuff we dont know

Yes. If they find the Higgs Boson it will prove theories already in existence, and show that they are able to predict what other particles are and what their properties are. It'll basically sort out all the stuff they're not sure of at molecular level; which doesn't really make much difference since they've already proved or disproved everything relevant to creationism.

[Leon]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Dinosaur_skeleton_at_Tyrrell.jpg/450px-Dinosaur_skeleton_at_Tyrrell.jpg

...enough said.

[Shane]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Dinosaur_skeleton_at_Tyrrell.jpg/450px-Dinosaur_skeleton_at_Tyrrell.jpg

...enough said.
Rex!
Catch the bone....