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gprime
April 9th '06, 06:24 AM
Now, as I've made mention of, I am indeed an atheist. I am however, loyal to the ethno-religious group I was born into. And, having a right wing disposition, I naturally align myself with the religious/right of Israel. Within that is a group, which since it is more of a theory which has spawned a number of groups than it is one specific group, I'll not mention its name, however said group [sic] are considered by most of the international community to be a terrorist group. The reason behind that is they advocate the compensated expulsion of Muslims from Israel and the imposition of Jewish law therein. Really, history shows that they have never taken terrorist actions, nor have they, as a group committed terrorist actions. Only former members have been linked to self-defense inspired killings, including one who was a soldier under fire from Muslim radicals. Still, when the two leading political parties of Israel banded together to ban them due to their increasing political power, the world followed suite, assuming that the group was evil, without understanding their philosophy. In fact, they have in the past, and continue to run a number of educational institutions and charities, and preach reform through means which are supposed to be legal in a democracy.
Now, while the group is in a somewhat odd position since the two major leaders have both been assassinated, there is not an official site. There is however the 'almost official' site, which is almost official in that its run by the most important living figures in the group. Knowing of my technological proficiency and the generally poor appearance and functionality of their site, they have asked me to help them update the site.
I could, I believe, remain fairly anonymous, as I would most likely choose. Or, I could be public about it, though naturally the implications there are far more dangerous. Consequently, I'd remain anonymous to all but those who run the site.
The reason this is somewhat risky is as follows:

Both their major heads have been assassinated. (Incidentally, I'm related to both of the now dead former leaders.)
All of the upper ranking living members have served jail time for charges ranging from 'Conspiring Against the State' to 'Incitement of Violence' to 'Attempted Murder'.
A major leader (though not affiliated with the site) was just jailed in Israel a few days ago.
The head of the site is currently on trial for championing a referendum against the disengagement (which is apparently tantamount to sedition and I believe treason).
In 2001 the FBI raided the website's headquarters.
They are on US, UK, Australian, Canadian, and European terror lists.
They are associated with Hindu Unity, which I believe is also considered a terrorist organization.

But, they really are good people who have never committed terrorism or the crimes they stand accused of. They've used peace and democratic means to try and advance an agenda of Jewish self-reliance and true Israeli independence and security. And I agree with their noble ambitions. Furthermore, since I frequent the site, I too would like to see it improved, as I would benefit from it. And, being related to the founder (now dead) and his successor (also dead), and knowing on a semi-personal level most of its upper-echelon I feel as though I should do what I can to help. Plus, the website as an entity of its own has had no trouble since 2001 and is not legally considered a terrorist site as its now defunct counterpart is.

So, what to do?

-Snake-
April 9th '06, 01:26 PM
Id do it, stick with what you think is right!
If these are a peaceful group then you are doing no worng..

Luke
April 9th '06, 01:40 PM
Id do it, stick with what you think is right!
If these are a peaceful group then you are doing no worng..

They're not a peaceful group though.

clueless
April 9th '06, 02:27 PM
no, it is not worth the risk.

gprime
April 9th '06, 06:43 PM
They're not a peaceful group though.
Yes they are.

Pearson
April 9th '06, 08:51 PM
Yes they are.
No there not.

gprime
April 9th '06, 08:58 PM
No there not.

And since you don't know the group of which I speak, how can you say that with any degree of confidence in your statement? Unlike you, I know most of the people who run it, and am related to the now dead founder and his now dead successor. And I can assure you they are not violent.

Luke
April 9th '06, 11:50 PM
They don't like Muslims or something. That's fucking ridiculous. Hitler had similar views about the Jews.

Fucking pathetic organisation.

gprime
April 9th '06, 11:53 PM
They don't like Muslims or something. That's f*cking ridiculous. Hitler had similar views about the Jews.

f*cking pathetic organisation.

Perhaps you misunderstand. They are a religious group, and as such follow the Tanach, which compells the Jewification of Israel. They merely want to change the laws so that only Jews can live there. They are not violent or racist. Its hardly comparable to anything Hitler, the killer of 6 million Jews, ever said or did.

Mamfy
April 10th '06, 01:33 PM
I would post my views in this thread bbut the sight of the first post put me off. All the words used and the language is likeO_OWaaaah?!

Sorry. I'm just not used to having these kind of things in the help forum.

clueless
April 10th '06, 04:34 PM
Perhaps you misunderstand. They are a religious group, and as such follow the Tanach, which compells the Jewification of Israel. They merely want to change the laws so that only Jews can live there. They are not violent or racist. Its hardly comparable to anything Hitler, the killer of 6 million Jews, ever said or did.
what do the propose, is to happen to all the non-Jewish people who reside in Israel?

gprime
July 1st '06, 11:13 PM
Haven't been here in a bit, so I must have missed this. Anyways, I decided against doing it. But Clueless, to answer your question, the propose compensated expulsion.

CraigYohn!
July 2nd '06, 03:10 PM
you sound like Yoda, "this cake be eaten by me" etc