Is Quality Slipping?

[Shane]

Do you think the Quality of Films these Days is not as High as it used to be?

I watch Films from back in the 80s and Early 90s and I like those ALOT more than the crap we have thrown at us today.

[gprime]

I said no, but only because its not going down down hill as much as it already is down hill and can't really get any worse on the whole. Still though, there are shitty movies at any given point in history. I think the difference is that now they just get more theater and video store shelf space.

[Patriot1776]

Yes. Alot of it is just the major difference in culture.

I mean peiople are saying that movie today are to violent. That's true to some extent, but this is coming from the generation that used to watch John Wayne blow up millions of J--s (Japanese) of G--ks (Vietnamese)

It is somewhat hypocritical when you think about it yet it is till true.

That was a generation that had to fight three almost consecutive war. (WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.) so racism against Asians was widely accepted in Europe and the United States.

Still, back then they understood that romantic subplots and violence are not what make good movies, but the acting and storylines. Sure John Wayne's movies may not have exactly been first rate, but you have to admit that he at least found a way to put emotion into normally cardboard characters and while those old war films are not exactly first rate you have to remember what type of world these people were living in.

That is why Clint Eastwood's first movies were shown in Italy. Americans just could not accept the fact that the world was not filled with "good guys" and "bad guys" but people just trying to make it through life.

That ius why the 60s and 70s are considered turning points culturally. All over the world was a movement to destroy the "plastic culture" (nationalism) and replace it with a whole new culture. This era (known as the counter-culture era) finally allowed for new ideas. These ideas were often shot down immediately. (2001: A Space Odyssey is actually one of the most critically assaulted movies of our time) but now they are considered classics.

You'll notice that many 80s movies (most notable the "Rambo" trilogy) involve some action hero blowing up a bunch of Russians. This may seem impractical in our culture, but back them it served as somewhat of a refuge to the neverending threat of nuclear war.

As for the 90s and today, we live in a worl;d of terrorism, crime, and questionable politics. Things that no one ever heard about back in the 40s are now part of everyday life. At times it may seem like this world is nothing but people trying to kill each other. That's why you'll see an increase in violence and crimes in movie today. Romantic subplots are usually there to serve as a relief of our violent world, so yes movie quality has gone down.

We've gone from an era of straight out bad-guys (Nazis and Communist dictators) to a world of violence with less room to think.

So the movie quality has gone down, it is obvious to any fan of classic films, but that is because of the increase in viiolence in our culture. There was an age where classic films such as 2001 were considered poor quality. What is considered poor now may be considered a classic in years to come.

[Chris]

So far i've barely enjoyed a single film at the cinema this year, they've all been crap with barely a storyline to them.

Films ive seen at the cinema this year:

The Fog: One of the worst films ive ever seen.
Final Destination 3: lacking severely in the storyline department.
The Hills Have Eyes: This is the exception, i really enjoyed this, even so it was still a bit cliched.
Hostel: A dire, awful, pathetic excuse for a film.
Scary Movie 4: very dissapointing, and dont even get me started on what was wrong with the 'story'...

I hope that Mission Impossible 3, X-Men 3, Da Vinci Code, and possibly Silent Hill and Slither are better.

[Patriot1776]

"Silent Hill" and "Slther" I hear are pretty good, but yes, most movies lately have been terrible.

[Shane]

I love all the old films such as Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. Bring back the Action Hero. :P

The last film I can thing of watching that was any good really has to be Bad Boys II. :D

[PrincessAlice]

i said no i've enjoyed quite alot of the films which have been out
but i love old films anyway my faves are: the breakfast club, back to the future trilogy and labyrinth :D rock on the 80s

[Pearson]

I havent seen a good film in ages, so I voted yes.

[~Wayne~]

yeah oldschool films like that rock, the Died Hard series are great

[Nosferatu]

Yeah.. Die Hard, Beverly Hills Cop, many of them are a lot better than the films we see, today. However, there are still some films, of which have come out in the year 2000+ that have been of some interest to me, though currently, there are very few.

I tend to not watch much of films, now, though.. nor do I watch much television, either. The primary thing I usually watch, or purchase on DVD, is Anime, since I can actually get more enjoyment from it, than I can your average Hollywood film.

[Tim]

lethal weopons and die hard were good. better than xxx shit

[Shane]

Yeah.. Die Hard, Beverly Hills Cop, many of them are a lot better than the films we see, today. However, there are still some films, of which have come out in the year 2000+ that have been of some interest to me, though currently, there are very few.

I tend to not watch much of films, now, though.. nor do I watch much television, either. The primary thing I usually watch, or purchase on DVD, is Anime, since I can actually get more enjoyment from it, than I can your average Hollywood film.
Yeah forgot about Beverly Hills cop. That pwns. :P

[Nosferatu]

Shane.. I refuse to believe you forgot about Beverly Hills Cop.. XD
There's also another film Eddie was in, but I forgot its name.. he played a prince of a country, though, and went to New York to see what it was like to live like most everyone else.

Ah, I think it was called, 'Coming To America'. Just came to me, now.. :lol: