What do you think about...?

[buthy-13]

what do you think about arabs or terrorism and bush
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be serious coz i wonna proof some ppl wrong

[buthy-13]

Here are the rules to keep in mind when watching television news in the evening or reading the morning newspaper. Observing them closely will simplify things considerably.

Rule 1: In the Middle East, it is always the Arabs who attack and the Israelis who defend themselves. This is called reprisal.

Rule 2: Arabs, Palestinians or Lebanese do not have the right to kill civilians of the other side. That would be terrorism.

Rule 3: Israel has the right to kill Arab civilians. This is called legitimate defense.

Rule 4: When Israel kills too many civilians, Western powers urge restraint. This is called the response of the international community.

Rule 5: The Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to capture Israeli soldiers, even if their number is very small and does not exceed three.

Rule 6: Israelis have the right to kidnap as many Palestinians as they wish (around 10,000 prisoners to date of which some 300 are children). There is no limit whatsoever and Israel is under no obligation to provide any proof of guilt of the kidnapped persons. It only suffices to pronounce the magic word "terrorist." Lately this included members of the Palestinian Administration cabinet ministers, and members of parliament.

Rule 7: When mentioning "Hizbullah," one must always add the words "supported by Syria and Iran."

Rule 8: When mentioning "Israel," one should never add "supported by the United States, France and Europe;" otherwise people would think the conflict unequal.

Rule 9: Never speak of "Occupied Territories," UN Resolutions, violations of International Law or Geneva Conventions. This could disturb and confuse TV News viewers.

Rule 10: The Israelis speak better English than Arabs. This is why they and their supporters are allowed to speak as frequently as possible. This way they could explain to us the foregoing Rules 1 to 9. This is called journalistic neutrality.

Rule 11: If you are not in agreement with the above rules or you think they favor one party over the other, it is because you are a dangerous anti-Semitic, anti-democracy, and anti-freedom

[buthy-13]

Bush's public case for going to war against Iraq is full of logical inconsistencies, exaggerations, and outright lies. It reeks of ex-post-facto: First came the desire, and then came the reasons. But this raises a troubling question, especially for opponents of Bush's policy: If his ostensible reasons are unpersuasive even to him, what are his real reasons? There must be some: Nobody starts a war as a lark. It would be easier to dismiss the whole exercise if there were an obvious ulterior motive. Without one, you are left wondering, "Am I missing something?"
Tariq Aziz has a theory. Saddam Hussein's deputy told the New York Times this week, "The reason for this warmongering policy toward Iraq is oil and Israel." Although no one wishes to agree with Tariq Aziz, he has put succinctly what many people in Washington apparently believe. They do not think the concern over potential use of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons is negligible or insincere, but they do think that "oil and Israel" is a pretty good summary of what, for President Bush, makes Iraq different from your run-of-the-mill evil dictatorship. Yet this presumption about Bush, and these issues themselves, barely appear in the flood of speculation and argument about Bush War II.
"President Bush" is, of course, a metaphor. Much Washington political commentary and analysis is basically a discussion of what or whom the term "President Bush" is a metaphor for. Is it Karl Rove? Is it still Karen Hughes, although she has decamped? Even more than most presidents, Bush is regarded as the sum total of his advisers. Regarding Iraq, the advisers themselves are also used as metaphors, often in plural to signify a stereotype. "The Cheneys and the Rumsfelds" evokes a retro world of confident white CEOs in suits, oil barons, and the military industrial complex. "The Wolfowitzes and the Richard Perles" evokes—well, you know what it evokes.
The idea that oil is a factor in official thinking about Iraq shouldn't even be controversial. Protecting oil supplies from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait was an explicit—though disingenuously underemphasized—reason for Bush War I. After all, we couldn't claim to be fighting to restore democracy to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, let alone Iraq. This time around, the fact that Bush and Cheney are both oil men is suggestive, but the implication is not clear. A war to topple Saddam will raise oil prices in the short run but probably lower them in the longer run by stabilizing the supply. An oil man could have sincerely mixed feelings about these prospects. Surely, though, even a sensible opponent of the war ought to register a steady oil supply as one of the better reasons for it.
The lack of public discussion about the role of Israel in the thinking of "President Bush" is easier to understand, but weird nevertheless. It is the proverbial elephant in the room: Everybody sees it, no one mentions it. The reason is obvious and admirable: Neither supporters nor opponents of a war against Iraq wish to evoke the classic anti-Semitic image of the king's Jewish advisers whispering poison into his ear and betraying the country to foreign interests. But the consequence of this massive "Shhhhhhhhh!" is to make a perfectly valid American concern for a democratic ally in a region of nutty theocracies, rotting monarchies, and worse seem furtive and suspicious.
Having brought this up, I hasten to add a few self-protective points. The president's advisors, Jewish and non-Jewish, are patriotic Americans who sincerely believe that the interests of America and Israel coincide. What's more, they are right about that, though they may be wrong about where that shared interest lies. Among Jewish Americans, including me, there are people who hold every conceivable opinion about war with Iraq with every variation of intensity, including passionate opposition and complete indifference. Jews are undoubtedly overrepresented in what little organized antiwar movement there may be (thus feeding another variant of the anti-Semitic stereotype).
Why and whether an American war against Iraq would be good for Israel is far from clear and is the subject of vigorous debate in Israel itself—but not in America. Theories range from the mundane to the exotic to the paranoid: Clearing out a neighborhood troublemaker before he gets the bomb is reason enough. Or, deposing Saddam will set off a complex regional chain reaction that will somehow turn the Arab nations into peaceful bourgeois societies. Or, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon actually wants a huge regional conflagration that he can use as an excuse and cover for expelling the Palestinians from the West Bank. In any event, the downside risk for Israel—of carnage, military and civilian—is like America's, only far greater.
But we'd better not talk about it.

[buthy-13]

Worthless and Demeaning

By SAM HAMOD
One of the problems with American ethnocentrism is that many Americans assume that because others don't speak English as well as us, that they don't think as well as us.
President Bush, Rumsfeld and General Myers have all fallen victim to this nonsense. Bush especially showed this ignorance in his speeches today on Al Hurrah (an American sponsored propaganda TV station that few Arabs watch) and Al Arabiyah (a Saudi TV station that gets only 24% of the Arab market). In addition, Bush pointedly refused to speak on Al Jazeera TV, the station that has over 60% of the Arab market overseas; thus, he cut off his nose to spite an independent, critical Arab TV station.
Add to these things that Bush, Rumsfeld and others think that their excuses of "just a few committed these evil deeds," " this is not the American way," will be believed about the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, when the same torture and inhumane treatment is going on at Guantanamo Prison and in prisons in Afghanistan. Somehow, Bush was not smart enough to realize that Arabs and Muslims throughout the world relate the two, as well as the thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails (and all Arabs and Muslims know that Bush is 100% behind Sharon of Israel); Arabs and Muslims are outraged because up to now, there were never photos of the inhumane treatment, though Arabs and Muslims have been complaining about these matters for the past two years, with no response from America or the West.
Our American leaders and military officers have used the Israeli style of not allowing the Red Cross to have free access; they have not charged the prisoners with crimes, but have held them under captivity; the Americans have arrested hundreds of Iraqi women, not allowing them to see their families, again, without charges or without sanitation, many of them being abused by American soldiers; they have hooded prisoners, have beaten them and threatened them and in many cases sexually abused them, killed some of the prisoners_all with no apology, not even today from President Bush. How bizarre for our nation, we the nation that was held up as a moral leader, as a nation who believed in fairness, ethics, morality and freedom. What is ironic is that this is all coming out at the same time the Supreme Court is hearing two cases on American citizens, Lind and Padilla, who have been held without charges in solitary confinement without being given the right of habeas corpus, and have not been allowed to even talk with an attorney. Yet, the case is being tried at the Supreme Court_without the two men being allowed to even help their cases.
The report of torture by General Taguba, which was sent out in early February to the U.S. government and the military. But it is in conflict, with the new man, General Miller , who is to be in charge of the Iraqi prisons, in his report, from last year, that he wanted to "exploit the prisoners to the full in their interrogations." General Miller is the same cruel taskmaster who has led the abuse of prisoners and the brutality of those prisoners at
Guantanamo in Cuba. Thus, there is nothing coming from America at this time that looks as if anything is going to change for the better in the Iraqi prisons. But mark my word, this will not go down well with the Iraqi people, nor the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Until CBS News broke the story, the Pentagon and the U.S. Government had tried to keep Taguba's report secret so that our troops could continue torturing and abusing prisoners (none of this stopped until the CBS TV News report).
Lest, anyone wonder, one must remember that Iraq has a 5000 year old civilization; they are a learned people, not heathens who live in the mud and dirt of illiteracy. Baghdad for centuries had one of the world's finest libraries; the works of the early Christians were collected there, as well as the Persians and Greeks before them, then the work of the great Muslim thinkers and scientists (many of whom practiced in Baghdad, Basra, Najaf and Kerbala). America, this late comer to civilization is now led by uneducated dolts, a president who had never traveled outside the U.S. before he became president and thought that he could impress foreign leaders by taking them to his "ranch" (a converted pig-farm that still smells of feces and death, this according to correspondents who have been there on a hot Texas day). But it is because he is so ignorant of civilized people, such as the Muslims who have always been concerned with modesty, covering their body parts, their sexual modesty and their sense of honor, that he has little grasp of just how much damage these photos have done to the image of America not only in the Arab world, but in the larger, 1.6 billion, Muslim world. Add to this the way the other Asians view the American behavior that is in conflict with their own sense of dress and modesty and you can see that even non-Muslims in the East and sophisticated Europeans were shocked and upset with American uncivilized behavior.
Then, the fact that Bush did not deign to go on Al Jazeera compounded his visible ignorance and lack of political sophistication. This mistake made clear that he didn't really want to explain or apologize, but to make points and to smooth matters over.
But little does he realize that he made matters worse, not better by his feeble attempt to con the Iraqis, Arabs, Muslims and others in the world who were aghast at the American military and mercenary behavior. Of course, Bush and others will try to punish the woman in charge of the prison and some of the others who smiled in their evil behavior in the photos_but the penalties must go up the line and the heads that must roll are those that allowed this, who want to get away with this, and to continue the brutality in Guantanamo_namely, General Abizaid, General Myers, General Kimmit, Wolfowitz and finally, Rumsfeld himself. Rumsfeld's and Myers' excuses that "they hadn't read the report" that had been sitting on their desks since February is clearly fraudulent_downright lies. Unless this is done, then no one in the Muslim world will believe in the American promise to "correct" the problem.
In addition, if they really want to "solve the problems with the Muslim world" then it is time for Bush to divorce America from Israel and Sharon, and tell Israel to either work for peace or lose American support. If America continues giving Israel carte blanche, then there will be even further conflict and anger from the Muslim world toward America, and no speech will overcome that problem.
America must also void the contracts that have been made by the puppet Iraqi Governing Council, by Bremer and by others in the American government that will take money from the Iraqi nation. Those contracts were made illegally and under duress by the occupying American and British powers; no court in the world will uphold them. Thus, it is best that America disown and void them before they are voided in the world court or by continued Iraqi military and political resistance.
Finally, America must turn to the Arab and Muslim nations of the world to work with the UN, to the exclusion of America and Britain, and allow the UN to take the lead in repairing Iraq, physically, psychologically, economically, socially and politically. If America thinks it can keep troops in Iraq for another decade, as Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institute thinks, then they are barking up the tree of defeat. The Iraqis will never stand for this. And, as I commented to Dr. O'Hanlon, the Iraqis have defeated the Persians, the Greeks, the Byzantines, the Mongols, the Turks and the British_and they have stood strong, even with minor weapons against the might America, the world's allegedly greatest military power. The Iraqis will fight to the last person, men, women and children to drive the U.S. out of Iraq and no think tank speaker who says differently just shows that he or she doesn't understand the power of Islam and the sense of determination in Iraq. These disclosures of abuse do but toughen Iraqi and Muslim resolve. And yes, the Iraqi will find thousands upon thousands of other dedicated Muslims coming to their aid if America does not pull out. Unfortunately, for all of us ordinary American citizens who abhor what has been done, and that Bush most likely will not clean up, the battlegrounds will be restricted to cities in Iraq, but to cities around the world, wherever militant Muslims can attack America and its allies.
The situation is very dire, and it is going to take more than soft pedaling comments from Bush that he's "Ordered the Sec. of Defense to make a full investigation of the matter."
That's like asking the fox to investigate his attack on the chicken house. But before I finish, allow me to state that if the American troops go further into Karbala or Najaf, our troops will face a bloodbath of a type they haven't seen since the Civil War or what met the British troops in WWI.
Come now, wake up, my fellow Americans. As a veteran of two wars, I tell you that what men fought for in WWI and WWII is missing; we are now the "bad guys", those who are abusing the rights of others, we are the Nazis who want to control the land of others and to put them into prisons where their citizens are tortured, and when they fight back, as the Jews fought back in the Warsaw Ghetto, the American media label them as "terrorists" or "insurgents" or "foreign fighters!" Unfortunately, as I said, America has it all upside down, including the ignorance of Bush trying to gloss over with America's misdeeds in Muslim lands.
Sam Hamod is a former advisor to the U.S. State Dept; founder of 3rd World News (Wash, DC);Director of The Islamic Center (Wash, DC); Professor at Princeton, Michigan, Howard and Iowa (ret.); he may be reached at shamod@cox.net

[buthy-13]

This site is dedicated to exposing and ridiculing the man who stole the keys to the White House, lied to the American people about Iraq and launched a war so he and his friends could turn a quick profit. Although he and his cohorts in crime are working hard to trash the U.S. Constitution and subvert Freedom of Speech, we've still got this avenue to speak our truth.
Who "we" are: Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Liberals, Conservatives, and Greens. We are Americans, and we hate Bush. Why? Read on:

Bush and his oligarchic companions sabotaged American democracy so they could pillage taxpayer resources.
Bush and his cabal of henchmen lied to the American people about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, and they continue to obfuscate the truth while their companies cash in, Iraqis suffer and American soldiers die.
Bush is bad for business and the economy. He is only interested in enriching himself and his friends.
Bush is bad for the future. He is compromising the prosperity of tomorrow's America by shortchanging today's children.
Bush is bad for the environment.
The Bush Administration has manipulated the media to the point of undermining the Constitutional guarantees of a Free Press.
Bush has tried to undermine the United Nations, a democratic institution created in large measure by Presidents Eisenhower and Truman. Without even understanding what the UN does, Bush has called it "irrelevant" when it fails to fall in line with his dictates.
Bush is inarticulate and projects a stereotype abroad of Americans being ignorant and myopic.
Bush torpedoes global agreements on everything from racism and global warming to biological weapons and land mines, and then expects the world to line up behind him.
Bush took positive patriotism and global support in the wake of 9/11 and forced it behind his own narrow self-interest in Iraq. He hijacked 9/11 for his own benefit.
Bush stands against everything America stands for.

[buthy-13]

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"How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a campaign stunt? How do you ask a goose to die for a photo op?"

[buthy-13]

not done yet ..be back soon :P

[Will]

Shutup you racist bitch!

[clueless]

Shutup you racist bitch!
What on Earth is your problem?

[Will]

I don't like mindless idiots.

[punk-rocker]

I don't like mindless idiots.
so u mu st hate ur self eh ?!

[clueless]

I don't like mindless idiots.
Then don't stoop to her 'mindless' level. Calling someone a 'racist bitch' is pretty mindless too, especially when there isn't anything remotely racist about what they have to say.

Anyhow, back to the initial question.

My take on Arabs: Like every other group of people, you have your good and your not so good. It would be absolutely riddiculous of me to say i hate all Arabs, simply because i haven't met all Arabs to pass such judgement. In the political world, i don't really take too kindly to the Arab and so called 'Muslim' nations who don't seem to give a damn about the suffering of their neighbours.

Terrorism: Totally wrong. I don't care who perpetrates such horrendous acts nor do i care for their justifications, terrorism is terrorism. And for arguements sake, i would define terrorism as acts which create discourse amongst people and brings harm to them.

Bush: I don't particulary like him.

[buthy-13]

wtf is wrong with you big willy

[Bob!]

LoL hes gunna like u callin him that.

And buthy, seriously look at that, those blocks o texts have jus created the TF great wall o f**in China, I mean who the hells goin to read all that lol, its not even paragraphed properly.

Learn to summarise the important parts to make ya points instead of just copyin and pasting.

[Wen1992]

Didn't bother to read all that, but yeah Bush is nice, terri. is scary, and arab is a friendl y country

[~Wayne~]

so u mu st hate ur self eh ?!

Worst insult ever.

And Buthy please stop copying stuff from other places, its VERY annoying!

[buthy-13]

Worst insult ever.

And Buthy please stop copying stuff from other places, its VERY annoying!

i care about my joy

and it happens when some people are annoyed

[~Wayne~]

And you get joy from copying and pasting crap?

At least take a few lines then expand on it not just copy

[buthy-13]

And you get joy from copying and pasting crap?

At least take a few lines then expand on it not just copy

wwell yo brrrrotha thatz what i did

[Bebot]

Shutup you racist bitch!


Seriously,what IS your problem
all she just said is 100% true and the whole fuckin world knows it

mindless idiot :P

[buthy-13]

Seriously,what IS your problem
all she just said is 100% true and the whole f*ckin world knows it

mindless idiot :P

e7m e7m


:D:D:D

[buthy-13]

the rules.......... you should read

[Nintendus]

Seriously,what IS your problem
all she just said is 100% true and the whole f*ckin world knows it

If you seriously think that then I advertise trying to learn about the other side's views.

[mean_girl]

Ummm... nah buthy keep on pasting, I read it!!!
Heeee....

I'm bored

[buthy-13]

If you seriously think that then I advertise trying to learn about the other side's views.

it's good to learn

[Florentine]

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"How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a campaign stunt? How do you ask a goose to die for a photo op?"


Alright well one thing i have to make clear is that im absolutely not fond of bush. But that it my opinion.

Buthy is this your opinion? If it is you are really upsetting the people who are supporting and believe in George Bush. Im sure you wouldnt like to see or hear any dissing about your leader of your country infact any dissing at all about your country.

If you have an opinion, state it as your own opinion and not some copy and paste...
I still appreciate you bringing this out to us and showing us what you believe and such, but bring it to us in a proper and careful manner. Many of us get wired up quite quickly about these sorts of things,,,

[buthy-13]

Alright well one thing i have to make clear is that im absolutely not fond of bush. But that it my opinion.

Buthy is this your opinion? If it is you are really upsetting the people who are supporting and believe in George Bush. Im sure you wouldnt like to see or hear any dissing about your leader of your country infact any dissing at all about your country.

If you have an opinion, state it as your own opinion and not some copy and paste...
I still appreciate you bringing this out to us and showing us what you believe and such, but bring it to us in a proper and careful manner. Many of us get wired up quite quickly about these sorts of things,,,

this is my opinion an if anyone doesn't like it then f*ck i don't give a damn
they like him..i don't

i wouldn't fight or isult someone who would not do the same to me
i'm talking about someone who everyone knows

[metal-maniac-13]

Buthy seriously, i wouldnt waste my time copying and pasting.
If anyones got a problem with arabs then its his\her own problem for carrying hatred in h\r heart. It must be exhausting to hate someone you never met! More than that laughable.
It doesnt add or subtract anything if someone you dont know hates you, so if anyone out thtere hates arabs, well well well i'm glad you do. Keep the hatred up ;).

[~Wayne~]

Nobody mentioned that so why bring it up?

[metal-maniac-13]

HAH! Well that proves i didnt read anything :P.
I thought that was the topic. Its not?!

[Will]

I think this topic went well off track when I called Buthy a racist bitch. :P

[!Jazzy!]

woah! *dizzy* too much to read! ,.;'~*!:(!*~';.,