Gays/Lesbians in general

[Drunk_druid]

After me and bob had a random thing with the admirer match, i wondered. Is anyone here actually gay?
I have no problem with them but i was wondering if people do have a problem and if so why? (and if not, any reason?)
this also applies to the ladies with lesbianiness

[Bob!]

WE DID NOT SHARE ANYTHING! And I'm not gay, sorry lol :P

I think one of em off the old version was, might have been richety, but I cant remember.

[Mamfy]

One of my ex best friends is bi.....if that's any consellation LOL:P

Heh

[*fender.chiq*]

I love gay guys, they're sweet =) and I have no problem with lesbians. Everyone's entitled to be free in this world, so sexuality is fine by me.

I just find it annoying when the wannabe scenesters all go around saying they're bi for attention.. but yeah, everyone entitled to be who they are!

[fcuk4forest]

My cousin is a lesbian.

[D3c3p7ioN]

I just find it annoying when the wannabe scenesters all go around saying they're bi for attention.. but yeah, everyone entitled to be who they are!
ARRRR Theres one guy like that in my art class... one day im going to stab him with a brush.

[*fender.chiq*]

ARRRR Theres one guy like that in my art class... one day im going to stab him with a brush.

Yes, you do that.. lmao.

Shame I don't know where you live so i can watch =\

[D3c3p7ioN]

Ill record it on my phone >=)

[Pearson]

Dont r8 mind em, but its the 1s that shuv it in your face that there gay that do my head in. arghhh there r8 annoyin, make me vomit

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

If it makes them happy, then I'm all for it.


I have a few friends that are either gay or bi...They're awesome to shop with. I know a transexual, but that's a long story...haha.

[DJDanny2020]

i dislike them, they can make ya laugh but also make ya sick lol. My mates pretend to be gay, like touch my leg while im driving in my car, really really pisses me off! i get so wound up.

[Pearson]

Thats the sign of being a gay. gettin really wound up about anythin homosexaul. Danny i think ur gay.

[DJDanny2020]

Yeah course it is mate :S

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

That's actually proven.


If you're a really big homophobe, it usually means that you have some weird deep desire to be one...even if it's subconcenious. It's like you're trying to cover it waaaay up so no one will know.

[xxrachxx]

i love gay people, my uncle is gay and happily married over in california, and i love him to bits, hes not changed in his personality at all, its there choice, and im fine with lesbians as well, as long as it like wouldnt ruin a friendship if feelins were gained for me

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

He's not in San Fransisco, is he?


Because that's where my Uncle/Aunt lives. He/she's the tranny I was talking about.


Uncle John/Aunt Amanda.

[DJDanny2020]

Jesus!! lol

Ok i think i know what you mean, but im not like that! Very far from being gay!!! I mean how does a straight guy actually like being touched by another guy, in a gay way? Im sure a lot of u wunt like it!

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

The more defensive you get about it, the worse you're making it for yourself.

[Pearson]

yes danny boy, come out now. No1 will mind. Darren likes a cheeky bit of cock. U could fall in love with him

[xxrachxx]

hes from California -- San Diego, hes called Chris and his husband is called Len

[Entice]

I have nothing against them.
But what i really hate, are people at my school who are scared of them. My friend wouldnt sit next to a girl cause shes a lesbian, and i was like wtf?
Whats worse are those who say there cool with them, and then talk shit about them behind their backs.

[Mamfy]

I just don't like it when they boast about it. Like, you don't hear straights boasting about being straight do you?! Lol

[Pearson]

thats cos if you do you get accused of being gay lol.

[Entice]

No, because everyone assumes your straight. When you first meet someone you dont wonder if there gay or not. Most homosexuals dont even act by the stupid Stereotype their branded with.

[BleedBlack]

I don't have a problem with them at all. Good for them if they r happy.

This chick at school came out & said she was bi.. i have never seen more dickheads act so immature, everyone was acting like it was the biggest fucking thing ever. idiots.

Oh and it really annoys me when little 13 & 14 year olds claim they r bi-sexual. how are you ment to know when your that younge. thats just like being 13 and saying oh yeah & when i'm 18 i'm gonna go to this college, and study this and do that. stupid immature kids.

[kattylover]

I dun care if they are happy with it. There are lesbians in my school too. But everyone in school is talking about it and avoiding them. They seem okay but very tomboyish.

[danster73]

i dont think there is anything wrong we gay/bi/lesbien people. there still people but with different tastes. i know loads of gay and bi ppl, and there all cool.

[The Wheel]

They are just normal people

[Haunting_Echoes]

They are just people, one of my best friends is gay, as is my brother, an I personally am bi. So I don't see much of a problem.

[*Jess*]

If they genuinely feel that way about the same sex though, pearson, how can that be attention seeking?

[Patriot1776]

I have to agree with Jess. What people seem to forget is that you can't "choose" to be homesexual. You either are of you aren't.

[~*~emolover~*~]

i have friends that are gay and i think they are really nice people, just like everyone else but like the same sex people. I suppose you get gay people that are horrible but thats just people for you.

[Patriot1776]

How can one little incident you experience possibly justify your comments?

[Brianna.]

The same way you can lecture people about drinking based on the one experiance you had with it.

Irony, no?

[Patriot1776]

I'm through with that. My perspectives changed.

[Brianna.]

It's still the same concept.

[Patriot1776]

COuld you please just let it go? I'm sorry if that means anything.

[BleedBlack]

OMG, i am so sick of stupid 13 & 14 year olds claiming to be bisexual...i'm sorry but i do not understand how someone so young can decide something like that. and most of them havn't even had any type of relationships yet.

I hate when people misunderstand bisexual with, i dunno what you would call it, maybe open-minded. I've kissed chicks, and would possible even try more, but it doesn't mean anything, so in no way am i bisexual, and when your that young, i don't think they really understand that.

Stupid kids.

[NATAL!E]

Exactly!

All these scene kids going "Omg, I'm bi" all the time,and they're not. It just ends up annoying and downgrading to the people who are actually bi.

I think I'm pretty much open minded on the whole sexuality thing. Anything goes. I've kissed girls and I don't go around saying I'm bi, because I think I'm pretty much straight really.

What gets to me are the people who say they're gay, lesbian or bi when they're not, and they're just using it as an excuse to get attention. It's not on really, cause I'm sure if they were of a different sexuality, they wouldn't like people poncing round saying they were the same to get attention from people.

I wait till the day I meet someone who says something of that nature to me next. I'll kick them, idiots.

[*Jess*]

I do completely agree with you both there!
Bis are people who would start a relationship with someone of the same sex, but would also start a straight relationship. There is a guy I know, I adopted him even though hes older than me (most of my "adopted" children are older than me and have commited incest at some point. Strange family situation :P) and he helps out in one of my classes, and hes genuinely bi, he likes guys and would start a real relationship with one. So hes like half gay. But hes a lovely guy and is now my son even though he doesnt know yet :D
But there is a girl I know, she can be nice, Im quite good friends with her even if she isnt that nice to some people, but shes the only other girl in my business studies class. But she believes shes bi, yet she isnt. Shes just kissed other girls and says shes bi to fit in.

Theres a fine line between real bisexuals, and just open minded people.

[Andrew]

Guys, does it really matter?? I have gay male and female friends, and they're great. They're awesome people, and no different to you or me. Does it really matter who's what? Stop putting labels on people, and get on with your own lives.

[Andrew]

No I'm not. I was brought up as a Catholic, so really my beliefs on this subject actually go against what im supposed to thing. According to the church, it's a sin to be gay or something like that. Despite that, I was also brought up to 'treat others the way you want to be treated' and that everyone is special and everyone is important.

When you talk to someone who is Gay, Bi, Straight, Goth, or any other label you can think of, half the time you can't even tell. And to me, it doesnt really matter. People have a thing for labels, and it pisses me off. People use it as an excuse when they don't succeed - "Oooh, I didn't get the job because I'm gay." I'm sick and tired of people using it as an excuse, or of people making a big deal about it. You're gay? Thats nice, I don't give a shit. Get on with you're lives, and enjoy your private life in private. Behind closed doors means exactly that.

[Stormydayz]

ok, i really dont think this is fair... not many people will really want ot come out and say 'iamgay' when you put it in a stereotypical fasion me being a fairly strait ;) person i would say that to make a gay or lesbian more comfortable about their sexuality you wouldnt have a poll about weither or not you hate gay people.... cultivate and grow a little morale... well, i am just speaking in favor of gay people i have some gay friends and they are already sensitive enough to the fact that other people judge them that the way it is put on this thread just by the poll and the 1st post, kinda stinks for them.

[*Jess*]

Guys, does it really matter?? I have gay male and female friends, and they're great. They're awesome people, and no different to you or me. Does it really matter who's what? Stop putting labels on people, and get on with your own lives.
I dont have anything against gay/bi/lesbian people though if you meant me...

[Sponge'K'nob]

I Want A Gay Best Friend!

[*Jess*]

me too kaye!
they are so groovy. its like, having a girl in a guy =O
they are great shoppers too sometimes.

[Sponge'K'nob]

yeah!....and when you go shopping they look for stuff just for you, if a girl goes with you they always want the clothes you look at! *grr*
jess i think we should invent a gay guy to go shopping with us!!

[*Jess*]

We really should?
ANY TAKERS FOR A GAY FRIEND?
please? *puppy eyes*

[Shane]

I voted that I dislike them. I don't really have any trouble with them as friends or whatever but I just could not be what they are. I dislike the thought of being gay.

[-Snake-]

I voted that I dislike them. I don't really have any trouble with them as friends or whatever but I just could not be what they are. I dislike the thought of being gay.

Ya see thats why men dont mind women being gay, but to think of a man being gay makes me feel un comfortable. But thinking of a women being gay is kinda sexy for most males... (too much porn)

Don't get me wrong I have friends who are gay and have nothing against them, just i would never do it myself...

I voted i dont mind them...

[Sponge'K'nob]

i voted no strong feelings.

i dont think its right when some of you say you like lesbians but not gays, its hipacritical, its the exact same thing, ive had friends in the past who are both gays, lesbians, or even bi, there all the same and all people.
Personally i wouldnt be a lesbian, mainly because i believe in the whole family situation and stuff....
thats my view anyhoo

[-Snake-]

i voted no strong feelings.

i dont think its right when some of you say you like lesbians but not gays, its hipacritical, its the exact same thing, ive had friends in the past who are both gays, lesbians, or even bi, there all the same and all people.
Personally i wouldnt be a lesbian, mainly because i believe in the whole family situation and stuff....
thats my view anyhoo

It isn't hypacritical beacuse its a diffrent sex, (if its from a man's point of view) I stright man can still find a women sexy if she's a lemon but we dont think of men sexy at all gay or not.

[Sponge'K'nob]

exactly...your being hypacritical!
and whats difference about men and women there? women dont go round sayin "ooo shes fit" do we :S

[-Snake-]

No but u wud still say a gay guy was fit wouldnt you?

[Sponge'K'nob]

yeah.....but were the opposite sex so that has no point, thats just deffeating the object....ahh im confused

[Pearson]

Gregs right, its not hypericritical to find lesbians attractive and feel uncomfortable around gay men! its just how we feel.

[Sponge'K'nob]

well its being sexist though, oh i dunno lol
=O you all seen my pic of the cute emo guys kissing?!

[Pearson]

Its not being sexist, thats like saying its sexist that I find women attractive and not men.

[Bob!]

Yeah were gunna feel that of course.

I think the question is, We find lesbians hot, (when just watchin em) but do girls equally think men rammin each other is as good?

Might be diff but normally id say that we find gay stuff (of the opposite sex) hot, while they dont as much, just prefer em for shoppin an all that lol.

For us id probably just say its cause when were watchin porn it means we dont havto look at another blokes cock to see sum action :P

[Sponge'K'nob]

I think the question is, We find lesbians hot, (when just watchin em) but do girls equally think men rammin each other is as good?



yeah thats kinda what i mean, i cant get my point accross very easy

[Pearson]

Ok, but i dont understand why it would be sexist.

[Richiecroft]

Im gay.

Everyone on hear, if you don't like gays, thats fine with me, your opinion. But you have to see that we're only human the same as you are too, if you don't like (<that) then your a snob! Turn your nose up at other people, but yourself :P I don't care if theres people out there who hates us, but as long as my life is brill , then really what they gota worry about! My life has been an adveture already, i haven't really lived yet lol, but like going through Secondary school was hurtful enough, i don't really want life or even the "REAL" world to be the same, just accept it!!

My views on you STRAIGHT people, some of you can be snobs, some can be arrogant, but im not saying "oh your straight, your a knob" ooopps i meant snob lol. See we can be bitchy as much as you lot can...so just accept it and GROW UP!

[Bob!]

Ok, but i dont understand why it would be sexist.

Its not sexist lol, its how most people are, or just personal opinion.

And kaye, if its the one u lot put up a while ago, dont even bother.
If u girls like that kinda thing, then keep it to the girls forum.

An I'll say same as I did before, As long as a gay dude dunt either try it on with me, or make me havto hear/see anythin theyve been doin with another bloke, then its their own business lol.

If they wanna be gay, but keep it to their own privacy and act like a normal person around me or whatever, then theres no problemo.
And that goes with straight people as well, I wunt want sumone bangin their gf infront o me or whatever, would prefer em to keep it to themselves lol.

Its just basic human respect. Whatever other people do in their own time and privacy is their own business, just as long as they dont force it on others or expect others to be the same. Goes for both gay and straight, or anythin else lol.

[-Snake-]

You may be human but just beacuse I dont like the idea of putting my cock up another man doesn't make me a snop, Hey be gay thats fine gay is a sexuality not a personality but just dont slap us round the face with the fact that you are....

[Pearson]

Im gay.

Everyone on hear, if you don't like gays, thats fine with me, your opinion. But you have to see that we're only human the same as you are too, if you don't like (<that) then your a snob! Turn your nose up at other people, but yourself :P I don't care if theres people out there who hates us, but as long as my life is brill , then really what they gota worry about! My life has been an adveture already, i haven't really lived yet lol, but like going through Secondary school was hurtful enough, i don't really want life or even the "REAL" world to be the same, just accept it!!

My views on you STRAIGHT people, some of you can be snobs, some can be arrogant, but im not saying "oh your straight, your a knob" ooopps i meant snob lol. See we can be bitchy as much as you lot can...so just accept it and GROW UP!

Sir, I just think its that because many people, such as myself, feel uncomfortable if a gay lad is looking at them. I wunt be bothed if a gay lad was hangin around with me, but just not if he was eyeing me up. I dont want to say that being gay isnt normal, but i don't know how to get around it so dont take it as an insult, but people often feel uncomfortable around something they are not used to and dont perceive as being normal. So you can sort of understand why some people have aggressive responses to gay people.

[PicoDeath]

I don't care unless there sorta queeny and completely girly, or come up to me wanting some ya know.

[Richiecroft]

Im sorry i went made in my other post, but you gota see it from our point of view.

My bad! lol.

[Pearson]

Im sorry i went made in my other post, but you gota see it from our point of view.

My bad! lol.

No its oreyt son. I dint think you went mad, just sticking up for something thats important to you. Your naturally going to be passionate about it.

[GotToHaveNeo]

I'm a great honking dyke...well i dont honk and im not that great but im still a lesbain. What really irritates me is when people dont want to sit next to somone gay because they think they might catch it, news flash, you cant catch it your more likely to get herpies from sitting on a public toilet then "catch homosexuality"

[Boy_Wonder06]

I think this topic is kinda silly lol, i mean, so what if people are gay bi or straight, it's their choice and it doesnt effect you in any shape or form unless they like you in that way. Im bi, so what im livin my life, and ok i get a little grief from time to time but i dont really give a damn lol, if people have a problem with my sexuality id prefer them to keep it to themselves!

We're all the same, we're jsut attracted to different people!!!

PS CAN PPL BE CAREFUL WHAT THEY WRITE IN THIS TOPIC, SOME POSTS ARE VERY CLOSE TO BEING DELETED, THANKS!

[pakstar]

yeh i think that gay/lesbian ppl r just the same as us straight people, they just have a different sexual prefrence!! and i think that waaay 2 many people make it their buisness to look in2 other peoples sexualities,

[Kaiser]

Yep, I'm queer. More specifically, I'm pansexual. It means that I'm attracted to all genders and sexes (not just male and female, like a bisexual). This includes transgender, androgynous, genderqueer, and intersexed individuals.

I've got a bit of a bone to pick with all of you complaining about gays and lesbians "shoving it in your faces." I really doubt they're doing anything that could really be called that. How many times do you kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in public, or hold hands with them? For the girls, how often do you talk about boys you think are cute, or about your boyfriend? Vice-versa for the guys? I'll be willing to bet that what you're considering to be gays flaunting their orientation is simply them doing exactly what you do, but for members of their own sex. Seriously.

Also, if someone can know they're straight when they're 13-14, they sure as hell can know if they're gay or bi. Stop telling people that they "can't know until they're older," since guess what? They CAN. It's not that hard to tell that you're attracted to somebody! And if you're holding a double-standard and thinking it's perfectly alright for someone to call themselves straight at that age... then I don't know what standard of logic you're holding yourself to.

And maybe it is trendy to be bisexual in some areas. That doesn't mean you have the right to say who really is bi and who is just doing it for attention.

[Blacklight88]

You know what? I could care less. It doesn't affect me. The only time I take an active opinion is when their rights come up, at which point I'm totally pro-gays because I think all people should have the same rights. Otherwise, I have some bisexual friends and my girlfriend is actually bisexual. It doesn't affect how they act towards me so thus I have no *reason* to dislike it. I don't understand anyone that does either. Live and let live I say.

[God.]

I think the very fact this thread was created is a testament to the general feel anyways.

Feel free to start a 'Heterosexual people in general thread' :)

[Entice]

Mmm we have a lesbian in our science class and she came up to sit with me and my friend. And my friend forced me to sit inbetween them cause she think shes scary and might develop a crush on her....

Oh god.

[-Snake-]

I think the very fact this thread was created is a testament to the general feel anyways.

Feel free to start a 'Heterosexual people in general thread' :)

Im ALL FOR IT! :D

[Boy_Wonder06]

i dunno what the big deal about bi and gay people is. I mean at the end of the day, there not gonna change just because of some people opinion, they are what they are, and i bet there dam proud of it too. Im Bi, and i know what its like to hold discussions on gay and bi people, if you get me ?

Before i knew i was bi, i used to talk with my mates about other lads in my group being girlie and possibly gay etc, but it never bothered me, there human, i mean just like 'Gottohaveneo' said about the fact you can't catch homosexuality, you go more chance of catching herpies from a public toilet (i love that quote lol). I don't see why the world can't accept us for being who we are. If there is such a big problem with it, why do we have so many gay bars/clubs, etc. The world is so dam confusing.

And the other thing is, why is it oki, for 2 women to be togetha, i know some men find that hot, so does that mean women find 2 men together hot???? maybe someone can asnwer that for me... On behalf of every gay and bi person, i think it would be a good idea for everyone to look at life form a gay / bi person eyes. It doesn't look very different part from the fact we have to struggle through constant critisism and abuse. But hey we still happy, and living our life. Maybe some people should do the same, dont critisise us, until you know the person inside of us!

[God.]

Couldn't agree more. I'm not Bi, but I wouldn't say I'm tolerant either.

The reason I say that, is that I don't believe there is a need for the question to be asked in the first place - "Are you tolerant of Bi/Homosexuals?" to me is asking me "Are you tolerant of the air?" - there's just no need for it.

Until we realise thats its not a case of us being tolerant of others, but more about us truly recognising that we're all the same, and united by our differences, then conversations like this will always ensue.

[Boy_Wonder06]

i agree token and its a sad part of life, waiting for that day to come, it coule be a long way away. concidering our governemtns can't even recognise a just war nowadays, or save us from the terroist attacks etc.

[D3c3p7ioN]

Dont care about them

[Stephanie]

I've got a bit of a bone to pick with all of you complaining about gays and lesbians "shoving it in your faces." I really doubt they're doing anything that could really be called that. How many times do you kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in public, or hold hands with them? For the girls, how often do you talk about boys you think are cute, or about your boyfriend? Vice-versa for the guys? I'll be willing to bet that what you're considering to be gays flaunting their orientation is simply them doing exactly what you do, but for members of their own sex. Seriously.

Also, if someone can know they're straight when they're 13-14, they sure as hell can know if they're gay or bi. Stop telling people that they "can't know until they're older," since guess what? They CAN. It's not that hard to tell that you're attracted to somebody! And if you're holding a double-standard and thinking it's perfectly alright for someone to call themselves straight at that age... then I don't know what standard of logic you're holding yourself to.

Wow. You have a really, really strong argument there. Well done man!

[Angela_Sleeping]

I have EXTREMELY strong views on homosexuality and homophobia, and I'm not afraid to say it.

1. First of all, I can't stand when guys think lesbians are hot but gay guys are gross.
2. People who say it's against their religion are idiots. The bible is (in my opinion) a book of fiction, and people shouldn't live their lives by it. Not to mention it's full of contradictions.
3. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're going to hit on you. Seriously, don't flatter yourself. You probably don't go hitting on every member of the opposite sex, so what makes you think they'll hit on everyone of the same sex? Ignorance is NOT bliss.
4. GAY is NOT an insult. I can't stand when people say "that's gay" or "you're so gay." It meant happy long before it meant homosexual, and it's stilly to put so many different meanings on one word. Plus it's unoriginal. Come up with your own words to insult people.

Yep, that's about it.

[Angela_Sleeping]

(I didn't read any of the other thread until after I posted so excuse this double post)


Yep, I'm queer. More specifically, I'm pansexual. It means that I'm attracted to all genders and sexes (not just male and female, like a bisexual). This includes transgender, androgynous, genderqueer, and intersexed individuals.

I've got a bit of a bone to pick with all of you complaining about gays and lesbians "shoving it in your faces." I really doubt they're doing anything that could really be called that. How many times do you kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in public, or hold hands with them? For the girls, how often do you talk about boys you think are cute, or about your boyfriend? Vice-versa for the guys? I'll be willing to bet that what you're considering to be gays flaunting their orientation is simply them doing exactly what you do, but for members of their own sex. Seriously.

Also, if someone can know they're straight when they're 13-14, they sure as hell can know if they're gay or bi. Stop telling people that they "can't know until they're older," since guess what? They CAN. It's not that hard to tell that you're attracted to somebody! And if you're holding a double-standard and thinking it's perfectly alright for someone to call themselves straight at that age... then I don't know what standard of logic you're holding yourself to.

And maybe it is trendy to be bisexual in some areas. That doesn't mean you have the right to say who really is bi and who is just doing it for attention.
Marry me, please.

[hollib21]

Yep, I'm queer. More specifically, I'm pansexual. It means that I'm attracted to all genders and sexes (not just male and female, like a bisexual). This includes transgender, androgynous, genderqueer, and intersexed individuals.

I've got a bit of a bone to pick with all of you complaining about gays and lesbians "shoving it in your faces." I really doubt they're doing anything that could really be called that. How many times do you kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in public, or hold hands with them? For the girls, how often do you talk about boys you think are cute, or about your boyfriend? Vice-versa for the guys? I'll be willing to bet that what you're considering to be gays flaunting their orientation is simply them doing exactly what you do, but for members of their own sex. Seriously.

Also, if someone can know they're straight when they're 13-14, they sure as hell can know if they're gay or bi. Stop telling people that they "can't know until they're older," since guess what? They CAN. It's not that hard to tell that you're attracted to somebody! And if you're holding a double-standard and thinking it's perfectly alright for someone to call themselves straight at that age... then I don't know what standard of logic you're holding yourself to.

And maybe it is trendy to be bisexual in some areas. That doesn't mean you have the right to say who really is bi and who is just doing it for attention.

I just have to quote you :)
awesome points all around!

[KathyN]

I just accept them. I also think that those who can't are somewhat like racists.

[Bite-me]

I dont mind gay people cus yeh they can be very sweet. I wouldnt mind it 1 of my mates was a lez unless 1 tried it on wiv me.

[shotgun17]

homos are mostly more nicer and hard working than sum str8 dum asses. anways i think rlly homophobes should die

[Promiscuous Boy]

i dunno what the big deal about bi and gay people is. I mean at the end of the day, there not gonna change just because of some people opinion, they are what they are, and i bet there dam proud of it too. Im Bi, and i know what its like to hold discussions on gay and bi people, if you get me ?

Before i knew i was bi, i used to talk with my mates about other lads in my group being girlie and possibly gay etc, but it never bothered me, there human, i mean just like 'Gottohaveneo' said about the fact you can't catch homosexuality, you go more chance of catching herpies from a public toilet (i love that quote lol). I don't see why the world can't accept us for being who we are. If there is such a big problem with it, why do we have so many gay bars/clubs, etc. The world is so dam confusing.

And the other thing is, why is it oki, for 2 women to be togetha, i know some men find that hot, so does that mean women find 2 men together hot???? maybe someone can asnwer that for me... On behalf of every gay and bi person, i think it would be a good idea for everyone to look at life form a gay / bi person eyes. It doesn't look very different part from the fact we have to struggle through constant critisism and abuse. But hey we still happy, and living our life. Maybe some people should do the same, dont critisise us, until you know the person inside of us!

Like many people have said - I couldn't agree with you more.

Basically i have alot of gay / bisexual / lesbian friends and i really don't care if they like it both ways or a different way.

From what i've heard - it seems to me that they are born this way ( a gene thing ) and thus.. they can't help but feel the way they feel. I have absolutely no problem with gays / bisexuals / lesbians and i think that's its just an evolution of love really. I mean if they didnt exist - everyone would of thought to themselves.. hmmm - shouldn't there be a same sex one aswell?

What also really gets to me though.. is some people purely hate gay people because they see some of them in television (for example - Will and Grace) and don't like the way they act (camp). The funny is; that the majority of gay / bisexual arn't camp. The ones i know arn't anyway.

In a jist - it's a gene thing.. and it's who they are. They get erections to the same sex basically and we should accept that.

If we want to live in a multi-cutural, multi-accepting and open-minded world then we have to accept homosexuals. It allows us to move on from caveman instints.

[spaught]

I don't have a problem with them at all. Good for them if they r happy.

This chick at school came out & said she was bi.. i have never seen more dickheads act so immature, everyone was acting like it was the biggest f*cking thing ever. idiots.

Oh and it really annoys me when little 13 & 14 year olds claim they r bi-sexual. how are you ment to know when your that younge. thats just like being 13 and saying oh yeah & when i'm 18 i'm gonna go to this college, and study this and do that. stupid immature kids.

To BleedBlack:
Actually, I think that statement is quite false. At thirteen, did you recognize your straight attractions? Whats the difference? Most LGBT people I come in contact with have said they've known since they were very young, and I believe it. You can't bash something you know nothing about. You're not in their mine; therefore you cannot decide whether or not they know their sexual identity or not. Now, no doubt, there are some immature thirteen year olds who don't know what the heck they're talking about and just claim to be bi for the attention, but you can't slap that label on everyone of them. That my friend, is ignorance.

Disclaimer:
Take mind that I'm not calling you ignorant, just that one opinion of yours, and I don't mean to offend you in any way at all. Just stating my opinion.





In response to the original topic:
LGBT kids I know tend to be some of the most respectful and compassionate people I've ever met in my life. Some of them are jerks, but for the most part, they've been really good friends. I don't have a problem with them. Three of my best friends are gay actually. (Two lesbians, one gay guy.) They're awesome people. Just like straight people except for the fact that they're gay, and is that really of any significance to their personality? No.

Wow...that turned into more of the novel than I expected it to be.

-Cody

[spaught]

Yep, I'm queer. More specifically, I'm pansexual. It means that I'm attracted to all genders and sexes (not just male and female, like a bisexual). This includes transgender, androgynous, genderqueer, and intersexed individuals.

I've got a bit of a bone to pick with all of you complaining about gays and lesbians "shoving it in your faces." I really doubt they're doing anything that could really be called that. How many times do you kiss your boyfriend/girlfriend in public, or hold hands with them? For the girls, how often do you talk about boys you think are cute, or about your boyfriend? Vice-versa for the guys? I'll be willing to bet that what you're considering to be gays flaunting their orientation is simply them doing exactly what you do, but for members of their own sex. Seriously.

Also, if someone can know they're straight when they're 13-14, they sure as hell can know if they're gay or bi. Stop telling people that they "can't know until they're older," since guess what? They CAN. It's not that hard to tell that you're attracted to somebody! And if you're holding a double-standard and thinking it's perfectly alright for someone to call themselves straight at that age... then I don't know what standard of logic you're holding yourself to.

And maybe it is trendy to be bisexual in some areas. That doesn't mean you have the right to say who really is bi and who is just doing it for attention.

bravo. i couldnt agree more.

-cody

[unloved__x3]

If you hate gay people then you must have a very sad life. loads of people are gay or bi so you may aswell try and get along wth them than think of a bunch of reasons about how you hate them. My sister is bisexural and I couldn't care less, I'm not saying i'm bisexural but i do think i'm a bit bi-curious.

[NewAbortion]

If you hate gay people then you must have a very sad life. loads of people are gay or bi so you may aswell try and get along wth them than think of a bunch of reasons about how you hate them. My sister is bisexural and I couldn't care less, I'm not saying i'm bisexural but i do think i'm a bit bi-curious.That's "bisexual," not "bisexural."

~Maggot

[tf_arl_90]

I'm straight. I have a few gay friends. I have a couple bisexual friends. I'm not friends with them because they're gay or bisexual. I'm friends with them because I think they're decent people and we get along well.

I don't like all homosexuals, but I don't like all heterosexuals either. *shrug*

[Superman12]

I think its totally ok, I have gay mates and they are cool. They dont choose to be gay it is just something you are born with and its just like preferring blonds to brunetts

[clueless]

'Love the sinner, hate the sin.'

[mean_girl]

I voted for no hard feelings, I don't meet them anyways,, there are just few here ,. maybe 5 in our school,or less,, hardly ever find them

[isabellacantino]

lol I polled "like them" even though I cant say I really do like gay people(or at least the ones I met) that much, I just really think they should have every right straight people do and have nothing against them or their lifestyles though I wouldnt choose that life

though alot of gay guys I meet personally get on my nerves because theyre so girly and I kinda despise like girly girls so they dont interest me in the slightest. I'm just not really into the whole shopping and gossipping about guys and clothes scene. but if I met a gay guy who wasnt like that I'd probly like him just fine, I just never have.
so I can really say I like them like other girls do

still if someone was insulting a girly gay guy I would defend him harshly because its like teasing someone for liking asian food: its just a preferance

[oOoBubblesoOo]

IMHO I think the majority of gay guys are better than straight guys.

[xMissIzzyx]

They're people, just the same as you and me. You wouldn't [well I wouldn't] disclude someone from a group because the majority of you are blonde and this person happened to be brunette would you?
They don't choose to be how they are but what annoys me is some choose to keep it to themselves and be ashamed of it. IMO everyone should be open about their sexuality and people should be a lot more open-minded towards these people. I'm bi and I have been since I was 13 and I've always been open about it, but I'm generally one of those people who's very open and honest about everything. Just lighten up if you have a problem with gays.. they're not contagious and tbh are probably better people than you.

[tf_arl_90]

I have EXTREMELY strong views on homosexuality and homophobia, and I'm not afraid to say it.

1. First of all, I can't stand when guys think lesbians are hot but gay guys are gross.
2. People who say it's against their religion are idiots. The bible is (in my opinion) a book of fiction, and people shouldn't live their lives by it. Not to mention it's full of contradictions.
3. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're going to hit on you. Seriously, don't flatter yourself. You probably don't go hitting on every member of the opposite sex, so what makes you think they'll hit on everyone of the same sex? Ignorance is NOT bliss.
4. GAY is NOT an insult. I can't stand when people say "that's gay" or "you're so gay." It meant happy long before it meant homosexual, and it's stilly to put so many different meanings on one word. Plus it's unoriginal. Come up with your own words to insult people.

Yep, that's about it.

In response to 1) I was on another forum where some dude went, "Homosexuality is wrong! Unless it's two girls making out then that's hot." or something along those lines. I could not believe what I was reading.

2) I don't know if I would go as far as to call them "idiots" personally. It's what they believe. A good number probably think non-believers are idiots for not following their religion. Their beliefs and mine don't coincide, and I do get fed up with it sometimes, but that's the way it is. I know a good number of Christians who respect homosexuals regardless of what their religion says. Honestly, we all sin, why is it really any different?

3) Bugs the hell out of me too. Self-pretentious pricks!

4) Using gay as an insult is just.....gay. (I'm kidding, I agree with you.)

[Innamorata]

I like bisexual girls ;)

[jess]

Wish i was gay ....hm :/

[Innamorata]

Lol why?


Wish i was gay ....hm :/

[minx4561]

its there choice let them be

[spaught]

I don't have a problem with them at all. Good for them if they r happy.

This chick at school came out & said she was bi.. i have never seen more dickheads act so immature, everyone was acting like it was the biggest fucking thing ever. idiots.

Oh and it really annoys me when little 13 & 14 year olds claim they r bi-sexual. how are you ment to know when your that younge. thats just like being 13 and saying oh yeah & when i'm 18 i'm gonna go to this college, and study this and do that. stupid immature kids.


Then how do other 13 and 14 year olds know they're straight? I know people who have always known.

[Innamorata]

I had pictures of girls on my wall from the age of 5.

[devilsangel141]

I have no problem with gays/lesbians whatsoever

[Margot]

dont mind them:), I really dont understand why people hate them, In my opinion its their own choice, you dont have to blame them for being gay.

[FuturisticBoy]

I'm Bi so yeah gay and straight and so far no one I know as had a problem with it. :) Obviously I chose, "like them"...

[SocialButterfly]

I have nothing against Bi/Gay/Lesbians. But it’s stupid when they use that excuse to try to make them sound better and uses it to get attention or whatnot.

[notorious]

It's cool as long as one doesn't approach me. I'd be pretty uncomfortable if I was ever hit on by another guy.

[Pluperfect]

I feel the same way about homosexuals as heterosexuals. I don't particularly like them, but I have nothing against them either. I haven't shown any lesbian tendensies myself yet, but I like to think everyone's a little bisexual. More often than not people experience being attracted to a member of the same sex. It doesn't have to be a sexual attraction, it can something as simple as, say, thinking someone of the same sex is cute. I don't know about anyone else, but personally I think Natalie Portman is gorgeous, and even though I'm not interested in doing the nasty with her, I still think of it as some form of being attracted to her. But then of course there would be different degrees of bisexuality.

[xXxEmo_DaisyxXx]

i have nowt against them for one my uncle is a gay i i think he rocks (he has good taste in cloths) and my mums old boss was one.soooo yea im fine with them.but i really hate my nan and grandad becuase i was round theres once and there was some thing on the tv about that lesbian couple who got marrie dina different country and when they went on th tv the pretended to spit on the ground i really hate my nan but my grandad

[sarahgirl_88]

i'm bi.. so this will be an interesting question to answer..

lesbians--scare me.the dike kind.
gay guys-- gay guy sex is wierd. but kool guys to go shopping with.

over all.. I LOVE GAY PEOPLE =] hahaha

[Future_Wiccan]

im not gay. but im supportive of homo/bi/trans. who am i to judge someone? i cant expect people to be just like me, thats includes sexuality.

[Kate]

Bi-sexuals are funner ;)

Only ever been out with a Bi sexual once, and he was teh funnest yo.
Bi's are open minded, which is what i like :)

[Gemski]

Bi girls ftw.

[sarahgirl_88]

Bi girls ftw.

lol i agree =]

[Gemski]

I havnt done much with girls
but I deffo wanna.

[lucille]

I remember one night when we were fourteen all my friends got topless and started kissing each other, I have no idea why.

But considering that to this day I still shudder when I think about it, I think that pretty much confirms my heterosexuality.

[Gemski]

Lol peach!

[lucille]

Not funny, just very disturbing!

[Kate]

Lmfao!

Try 5 heterosexual girls going skinny dipping in perverted germany.
I saw far too much bottom that day for my own comfort.

[Gemski]

Omfg Pmsfl Kate!!!!

[lucille]

Oh no, was it German bottom? You poor thing!

[Nirvana_rox]

I don't care about people's sexuality.
I've been out with straight people, bi people, and lesbians.
Don't give a damm man.

[Pearson]

Don't give a damm man.

No English person should ever say that. Infact no human should. I bet you say 'dude,' please god tell me you dont say 'dude,' or 'sucks' please....

[lucille]

No English person should ever say that. Infact no human should. I bet you say 'dude,' please god tell me you dont say 'dude,' or 'sucks' please....

How do you feel about the use of the term 'bro'...or 'homie' perhaps?

Are you seething with rage yet, dawg?

[Kate]

It was a mixture of both m'dears!!

[Nirvana_rox]

No English person should ever say that. Infact no human should. I bet you say 'dude,' please god tell me you dont say 'dude,' or 'sucks' please....

Umm.................yes............


How do you feel about the use of the term 'bro'...or 'homie' perhaps?

Are you seething with rage yet, dawg?

They are annoying man.

[Pearson]

How do you feel about the use of the term 'bro'...or 'homie' perhaps?

Are you seething with rage yet, dawg?

I dont actually hear anyone say that seriously though. But then again I dont live in reight hard London Town...

[lucille]

I dont actually hear anyone say that seriously though. But then again I dont live in reight hard London Town...

Yeah well what can I say, we are all pretty hardcore.

[God.]

I say man... :(

[sarahgirl_88]

wat does that have anythin 2 do wit gay ppl haha

[Emmax22]

i have no problem with gay/lesbian people. just because they are interested in the same sex doesnt change them as a person or their personallity. one of my best friends is gay and i love him to death.

[eversosweet]

it annoys me when people hate all gay/bi/lesbians. some of the nicest people i've ever met were gay. we really should stop looking solely at the fact that someone is a homosexual, and start treating them like a human being. gosh. we look at someone and scream YOU'RE DIFFERENT, GET AWAY FROM ME! we should concentrate on what we have in common, and not just stop at the things that are different.

[Nirvana_rox]

Right on man.

[Emmax22]

it annoys me when people hate all gay/bi/lesbians. some of the nicest people i've ever met were gay. we really should stop looking solely at the fact that someone is a homosexual, and start treating them like a human being. gosh. we look at someone and scream YOU'RE DIFFERENT, GET AWAY FROM ME! we should concentrate on what we have in common, and not just stop at the things that are different.

perfectly said!!!!!
20 brownie points!!!! =P

[Deimos]

and start treating them like a human being

But they aren't, geez.

[fraggled]

But they aren't, geez.

Are you fuckin kidding me? You will make up excuses as to why Emos and idiots should be allowed to cut themselves and help them front excuses as to why isnt isnt suicide but you are going to talk shit on gay people? I would rather have a gay friend then an Emo friend, atleast gay people don't act stupid :|

[Deimos]

The Bible.

The Law of Moses said, "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22; c.f 20:13).

"Because of this [the suppression of truth resulting in idolatry] God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27, NIV).

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinthians 6:9-10, NET).

__________________________________________________ ________________

On Nature.

The body was made to function a specific way. Men were not made to function sexually with men, nor women with women, but rather men were made to function sexually with women. While a man's penis can be made to fit into several human orifices, it is clear as to which orifice it is intended to be used with when we consider the substance emitted by the penis upon orgasm: semen. Semen has only one purpose: to create new life. This purpose can only be fulfilled when it is mixed with a female egg, and such a meeting can only occur while the penis is inside a vagina. A male penis is designed to function with a woman, period. That is natural. Homosexuality is unnatural because it abandons the natural function of the human body. Even homosexual activists are honest about the fact that homosexuality is not natural, or normal.

What makes a certain act "natural" has everything to do with whether it in fact involves using a capacity in a way consistent with its natural function or purpose, and nothing necessarily to do with whether or not someone has, for whatever reason, a strong desire to use it that way or some other way. It follows that whether or not someone has, for example, a genetic predisposition to want to engage in homosexual acts is, from the point of view of traditional natural law theory, completely irrelevant to whether such a desire is "natural" in the sense in question, and thus completely irrelevant to the issue of whether such acts are moral or immoral.

We determine one's sex by looking at their parts. If one's parts are designed to function one way, and yet their sexual desires are directed in another way it seems reasonable to believe that something is awry. When one's desires do not match the hardware afforded them by nature the problem is not with the hardware, but with the desires. When something is created for a specific purpose and yet an individual is psychologically incapable of using it for its intended purpose, shouldn't this clue us into the fact that something is wrong? This observation alone ought to clue us in to the fact that homosexuality is not natural, nor is it "normal." Homosexuality is a perversion of the body's natural function.

The Argument from Evolution

The theory of evolution argues against homosexuality as well. In a world where only the fit survive to pass their genotypes on to the next generation, homosexuals are doomed to rapid extinction. Because homosexuals cannot produce offspring they cannot continue in the fight for survival, and thus are inferior to the "species" of heterosexuals. There is no denying that the homosexual lifestyle contradicts the natural order of things (even from an evolutionary perspective in which there is no design in the universe, the natural use of our sex organs is still witnessed by examining the reason for which nature favored them: procreation.), and is not conducive to the process of natural selection of their kind. The belief in evolution is inconsistent with a belief in the equality of homosexuality to heterosexuality.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Health




I am persuaded that we should be disapproving of homosexual behavior for health reasons as well. Simply put, homosexual activity produces a health risk to society. As a society we have the duty to campaign against behaviors that destroy individual lives and the lives of others. The Gay Report (homosexual researchers) surveyed the sexual habits of homosexuals and
discovered that 99% had engaged in oral sex; 91% had engaged in anal intercourse; 83% engaged in rimming (mouth to anus contact); 22% had fisted their sex partners; 23% admitted to golden showers (urinating on a sex partner); 76% admitted to group or public sex; 4% admitted ingesting feces. These behaviors are breeding grounds for a whole variety of serious intestinal parasites, viruses, and bacteria known collectively as 'Gay Bowel Syndrome.' In addition to these intestinal diseases, homosexual males are also at high risk for anal cancer. Dr. Stephen E. Goldstone, the medical director of Gay Health.com says that 68% of HIV-positive and 45% of HIV-negative homosexual men have abnormal or precancerous anal cells.

[fraggled]

The Bible.

The Law of Moses said, "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22; c.f 20:13).

"Because of this [the suppression of truth resulting in idolatry] God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27, NIV).

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinthians 6:9-10, NET).

__________________________________________________ ________________

On Nature.

The body was made to function a specific way. Men were not made to function sexually with men, nor women with women, but rather men were made to function sexually with women. While a man's penis can be made to fit into several human orifices, it is clear as to which orifice it is intended to be used with when we consider the substance emitted by the penis upon orgasm: semen. Semen has only one purpose: to create new life. This purpose can only be fulfilled when it is mixed with a female egg, and such a meeting can only occur while the penis is inside a vagina. A male penis is designed to function with a woman, period. That is natural. Homosexuality is unnatural because it abandons the natural function of the human body. Even homosexual activists are honest about the fact that homosexuality is not natural, or normal.

What makes a certain act "natural" has everything to do with whether it in fact involves using a capacity in a way consistent with its natural function or purpose, and nothing necessarily to do with whether or not someone has, for whatever reason, a strong desire to use it that way or some other way. It follows that whether or not someone has, for example, a genetic predisposition to want to engage in homosexual acts is, from the point of view of traditional natural law theory, completely irrelevant to whether such a desire is "natural" in the sense in question, and thus completely irrelevant to the issue of whether such acts are moral or immoral.

We determine one's sex by looking at their parts. If one's parts are designed to function one way, and yet their sexual desires are directed in another way it seems reasonable to believe that something is awry. When one's desires do not match the hardware afforded them by nature the problem is not with the hardware, but with the desires. When something is created for a specific purpose and yet an individual is psychologically incapable of using it for its intended purpose, shouldn't this clue us into the fact that something is wrong? This observation alone ought to clue us in to the fact that homosexuality is not natural, nor is it "normal." Homosexuality is a perversion of the body's natural function.

The Argument from Evolution

The theory of evolution argues against homosexuality as well. In a world where only the fit survive to pass their genotypes on to the next generation, homosexuals are doomed to rapid extinction. Because homosexuals cannot produce offspring they cannot continue in the fight for survival, and thus are inferior to the "species" of heterosexuals. There is no denying that the homosexual lifestyle contradicts the natural order of things (even from an evolutionary perspective in which there is no design in the universe, the natural use of our sex organs is still witnessed by examining the reason for which nature favored them: procreation.), and is not conducive to the process of natural selection of their kind. The belief in evolution is inconsistent with a belief in the equality of homosexuality to heterosexuality.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Health




I am persuaded that we should be disapproving of homosexual behavior for health reasons as well. Simply put, homosexual activity produces a health risk to society. As a society we have the duty to campaign against behaviors that destroy individual lives and the lives of others. The Gay Report (homosexual researchers) surveyed the sexual habits of homosexuals and
discovered that 99% had engaged in oral sex; 91% had engaged in anal intercourse; 83% engaged in rimming (mouth to anus contact); 22% had fisted their sex partners; 23% admitted to golden showers (urinating on a sex partner); 76% admitted to group or public sex; 4% admitted ingesting feces. These behaviors are breeding grounds for a whole variety of serious intestinal parasites, viruses, and bacteria known collectively as 'Gay Bowel Syndrome.' In addition to these intestinal diseases, homosexual males are also at high risk for anal cancer. Dr. Stephen E. Goldstone, the medical director of Gay Health.com says that 68% of HIV-positive and 45% of HIV-negative homosexual men have abnormal or precancerous anal cells.



I am persuaded that we should be disapproving of homosexual behavior for health reasons as well


You should be persuaded to shut the fuck up because your stupid too :|



The theory of evolution argues against homosexuality as well. In a world where only the fit survive to pass their genotypes on to the next generation, homosexuals are doomed to rapid extinction.

Is that so because alot of gay men and women have babies and naturally at that ;) I suggest you start calling doctors and doing your research like you are smart. I could point out 20 including my uncle who did it naturally using THEIR OWN SEMEN!

Fuck that bullshit, you read me the bible and tell me where they came up with the dinosaurs? They clearly skipped over the dinosaurs. You tell me why god only created the earth but forgot to mention the universe? You tell me why there are other planets if he only created the earth? You tell me why it says its ok to have sex with a fuckin sheep in the bible, most of europe decends from the Romans, did you know the romans had sex with little boys like it was something cool? You fuckin bible thumping sheep fuckers. Your statistics are statistics for the entire world, who came up with golden showers? Straight people, who came up with bricking on peoples chests, straight people, who brought the first HIV STRAIN, A STRAIGHT PERSON! Is it wrong for you to eat your girl out? Probably not, even though that wasnt how the body was built to function you still probably accept it, idiot, but its wrong for a gay guy to suck off a gay guy right? Or a gay girl to eat out a gay girl? Your stupid.

I don't have time to sit here and make you look stupid therefore ill just ask one question.

Have you ever watched a porn? If you have watched straight porn you are a fag because you like looking at guys cocks going into girls, I hope you love the cock, even if you look at two girls you are hypocrit because you condone being gay on screen but not in life ;)

[Deimos]

Read the bible, read several sites about the bible, talk to a decent Priest about the bible, your questions regarding the bible will be answered.

You basically just ranted, made no points.

But here:

The AIDS epidemic was discovered June 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_5), 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981), when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention) reported a cluster of Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29) caused by a form of Pneumocystis carinii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), now recognized as a distinct species Pneumocystis jirovecii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), in five homosexual men in Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#_note-MMWR2) The disease was originally dubbed GRID, or Gay-Related Immune Deficiency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-Related_Immune_Deficiency), but health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. In 1982, the CDC introduced the term AIDS to describe the newly recognized syndrome, though it was still casually referred to as GRID.

[fraggled]

Read the bible, read several sites about the bible, talk to a decent Priest about the bible, your questions regarding the bible will be answered.

You basically just ranted, made no points.

But here:

The AIDS epidemic was discovered June 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_5), 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981), when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention) reported a cluster of Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29) caused by a form of Pneumocystis carinii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), now recognized as a distinct species Pneumocystis jirovecii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), in five homosexual men in Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#_note-MMWR2) The disease was originally dubbed GRID, or Gay-Related Immune Deficiency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-Related_Immune_Deficiency), but health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. In 1982, the CDC introduced the term AIDS to describe the newly recognized syndrome, though it was still casually referred to as GRID.

No basically what I did was question your stupidity without saying, you are stupid :|, I suggest learn to read better.

[Deimos]

Oh, I'm aware of that. But this is a debate board, and insults do not work well within a debate, hence why I did not call you a morom when I countered your HIV comment.

[fraggled]

Oh, I'm aware of that. But this is a debate board, and insults do not work well within a debate, hence why I did not call you a morom when I countered your HIV comment.

They also assume that you have the ability to think, of which you have clearly not shown based on your lack of research and usage of contradictory material.

[fraggled]

Read the bible, read several sites about the bible, talk to a decent Priest about the bible, your questions regarding the bible will be answered.

You basically just ranted, made no points.

But here:

The AIDS epidemic was discovered June 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_5), 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981), when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention) reported a cluster of Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29) caused by a form of Pneumocystis carinii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), now recognized as a distinct species Pneumocystis jirovecii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocystis_pneumonia_%28PCP%29), in five homosexual men in Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#_note-MMWR2) The disease was originally dubbed GRID, or Gay-Related Immune Deficiency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-Related_Immune_Deficiency), but health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. In 1982, the CDC introduced the term AIDS to describe the newly recognized syndrome, though it was still casually referred to as GRID.

I suggest you stop stealing content from Wikipedia and passing it off as your own without credit and that you correctly classify that person as a bisexual who prefered women over men, AND that you obtain the original documents from the CDC by calling their 1800 number and requesting copies, you can also contact your local CDC or Hospital and obtain the documentation that correctly classifies and states everything.

[Deimos]

It's clearly from Wikipedia fool, I even left the links in to other wikipedia sites, xD

[fraggled]

It's clearly from Wikipedia fool, I even left the links in to other wikipedia sites, xD

Don't call me a fool, just because you leave links does NOT mean you gave credit, start giving fuckin credit to your sources.

[Deimos]

Don't need to, not a university assignment, lol.

But I make no attempt to conceal the wiki stuff ^^, as opposed to you.

Good job refusing to acknowledge other valid points btw.

[fraggled]

Don't need to, not a university assignment, lol.

But I make no attempt to conceal the wiki stuff ^^, as opposed to you.

Good job refusing to acknowledge other valid points btw.

There were no valid points at all, non, basically what you did was throw in the bible and try to compare it to society when most of common society hates the bible, then you tried to throw in a wiki article which incorrectly classified its research and then said that aids was all because of gay men which is wrong.

Here:

Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. The virus most likely jumped to humans when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over several years, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world. For more information view our question and answer on the origin of HIV (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa3.htm). - Center for Disease Control (United States of America) http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm#origin

The earliest known case of HIV-1 in a human was from a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo. (How he became infected is not known.) Genetic analysis of this blood sample suggested that HIV-1 may have stemmed from a single virus in the late 1940s or early 1950s. - Center for Disease Control (United States of America) http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa3.htm

[sarahgirl_88]

hahaha i like all ur responses. HOMOS FTW =] .. only cuz im 1 of them haha

[Gemski]

Jordon rocks my world XD

Good responses if you ask me!
and I'm bi, so stick the burning bush in your arse Deimos

[Deimos]

Well, you'll burn in hell too ^^

[fraggled]

Well, you'll burn in hell too ^^
Judgemental idiots go to hell too :> Should have listend in bible school when they said Hypocrits go to hell, liars who spread false information go to hell and people who judge will be judged at the gates to heaven and then GO TO HELL!

I do believe God also said, "Do not go to church like the hypocrits, pray in the safety of your closet and speak forgivness unto ones self."

[Deimos]

Never said I was religious, Me, you and the Bi are all burning ^^

[Gemski]

the Bi, HAHA.
Your fucking hilarious. No, Really.

[Innamorata]

Grr :/

[fraggled]

Grr :/

Angry growl or "This is crap" growl?

[Sweetest.x.Sin]

I like bis/gays/straights, whoever you are. You're only human.
I mean being gay is not really MY bag, but hey all the power to you. ;)

[Innamorata]

Both.


Angry growl or "This is crap" growl?

[sarahgirl_88]

my best friend, she was homophobic. hated gays.. n then.. i got the guts up to tell her i was bi.. n she stopped being homophobic.. for bein so homophobic.. chances are.. sum1 close 2 u is probably gay. and either afraid 2 come out to u.. or ur close 2 loosing their friendship cuz u think their sexual preference is wrong.. i dont judge u.. so dont judge me. u kno? thats the way is should be.. i dont criticise u .. so dont come over here talkin shit about gay people if u dont kno our reasons or our feelings or anything. i suggest u stop talkin ur shit n get a life.

[fraggled]

my best friend, she was homophobic. hated gays.. n then.. i got the guts up to tell her i was bi.. n she stopped being homophobic.. for bein so homophobic.. chances are.. sum1 close 2 u is probably gay. and either afraid 2 come out to u.. or ur close 2 loosing their friendship cuz u think their sexual preference is wrong.. i dont judge u.. so dont judge me. u kno? thats the way is should be.. i dont criticise u .. so dont come over here talkin shit about gay people if u dont kno our reasons or our feelings or anything. i suggest u stop talkin ur shit n get a life.

Word Up!

[Gemski]

Fucking well said Sarah!
Well done

[Deimos]

But awfully typed ^^

And no, chances are, no one close to me is gay.

[fraggled]

But awfully typed ^^

And no, chances are, no one close to me is gay.
Corrected version for the guy / gal with supreme English skills.

However, awfully typed. And no, by chances, no one close to me is gay.


You would really think if you are going to go around correcting people you would type as well as you speak. Though I am no English teacher, I am just another programmer who gets sick of the world correcting people like they are smart enough to ;)

[saraharms1]

I'm okay with gays as long as they don't hit on me. They really are just normal people but I do not roll that way... lol

[Joseph]

I am gay myself, or as the cunt of a creator of this post says: "them", wow straight peoiple are such narrow minded twats! And erm no I will not mind my language: freedom of speach.

I wont be looking back at this marrow minded post so I suggest contacting me by PM if you have something to say.

Joseph - New Member.

[Leon]

You say that Joseph but there's also a thread created by gays about how stupid straight people are, so it's really just as bad.

[*Jess*]

I am gay myself, or as the cunt of a creator of this post says: "them", wow straight peoiple are such narrow minded twats! And erm no I will not mind my language: freedom of speach.

I wont be looking back at this marrow minded post so I suggest contacting me by PM if you have something to say.

Joseph - New Member.

You say we're narrow minded, yet you are choosing to pile all straight people into one category and saying we are all the same. I think that is more narrow minded to be honest.

Perhaps if you'd bothered to read past the first post you would have found many straight people's opinions on gays - that they are nothing different to straight people, that they can make their own decisions, that most of us aren't homophobic and in fact most of us support you completely.

Its just lumping people into two categories and creating a barrier between people of different sexualities. I think this is all part of the problem of why there is still so much prejudice because we BOTH (and yes I did say both because both sexualities contribute to the problem) generalise and treat it like because we have a different way of life in some respects we are completely different as human beings and we can't possibly get along normally. I treat gay people the same as I would a straight person, I have nothing against you and I don't think many people on this forum would. Is that narrow minded? I think not.

I think its more narrow minded of you to imply that straight people and homosexual people/bisexual people can't get along and as straight people we are all narrow minded.

[Nirvana_rox]

Stop the bloody judging.
No matter what your sexuality is your still yourself.
If your gay, your still a person.
If your straight your still a person.
If your bi geuss what your still a person.
So just forget the differences and remember the similarities you plonker.
No point trying to put up a wall because that's just pointless.

[Joseph]

I completly agree with the last comment.

Sorry for my anger, I have never used... and will not use again - a mainstreem (meaning primarily straight) forum.

It just bothers me how people call gay people "them" or "gay's" and just like that girl above the last comment said "us" (meaning striaght people) there is NO need to make this divide. Ever.

We are all changable and I strongly believe you can fall in love with another person no matter their genitalia, because we are all capible of seeing past gender if the persons personality is right.

I have been bullied for many years for being very openly gay, so that one work and in fact the whole poll about "them" really hurt me. I have came past suicide and abuse and even rejection and this just bought it all back to me, because as I said, I have never been on a mainstreem forum.

Thank you for reading.

Joseph - New Member.

[Nintendus]

You say that Joseph but there's also a thread created by gays about how stupid straight people are, so it's really just as bad.
That is such crap. That thread parodies this one to prove the point, pulling it out of context for your argument is a cheap trick.

[*Jess*]

I completly agree with the last comment.

Sorry for my anger, I have never used... and will not use again - a mainstreem (meaning primarily straight) forum.

It just bothers me how people call gay people "them" or "gay's" and just like that girl above the last comment said "us" (meaning striaght people) there is NO need to make this divide. Ever.

We are all changable and I strongly believe you can fall in love with another person no matter their genitalia, because we are all capible of seeing past gender if the persons personality is right.

I have been bullied for many years for being very openly gay, so that one work and in fact the whole poll about "them" really hurt me. I have came past suicide and abuse and even rejection and this just bought it all back to me, because as I said, I have never been on a mainstreem forum.

Thank you for reading.

Joseph - New Member.

By saying "us" I didn't mean that as a divide. Us can mean any group of people. I say "we" meaning my area all the time. I say "we" meaning the north of England. I say "we" meaning girls. In my post I was trying to work against the whole divide thing, and if I didn't get it across then I'm sorry about that but that was the intention.

You shouldn't be bullied for your sexuality at all. That is one thing I find absolutely appauling. The person who started this thread was indeed an asshole for saying what they did on the poll. You have a right to be angry about that. But thing is I wouldn't get too upset when people refer to any group as "we" or "us" or "they", as unless it was directed in a manner like the poll on this thread then its not usually meant badly. I certainly didn't mean it badly I just worded it a little oddly perhaps.

There is certainly no discrimination towards you here apart from the odd person. So to that fact I welcome you to TF. You should feel welcome on this being a mainstream forum, and not as if you have to join a non-mainstream one. Everyones welcome and you are as much of a person as anyone, and most certainly more of a respectable person than whoever started this thread and whoever bullied you in the past.

More than anything the thing that will stand out the most about you is that from that previous post you certainly seem to be a strong, intellegent and good person. The thing that stands out is never anyone's sexuality and it shouldn't be as that is what creates the divides.

[VraiCanon]

When I speak to someone, their sexuality doesn't make a difference in regards to how I act towards them.
What annoys me is when someone is supposedly best friends with someone, then they find out they're gay and stop talking to them :| they're still the same person tbh.

[Nirvana_rox]

It just bothers me how people call gay people "them" or "gay's"

We are all changable and I strongly believe you can fall in love with another person no matter their genitalia, because we are all capible of seeing past gender if the persons personality is right.

I have been bullied for many years for being very openly gay, so that one work and in fact the whole poll about "them" really hurt me.

I understand where your comming from.
This thread is a load of pooh anyway.
The people that bully you due to your sexuality are a pain in the ass i know.

[Joseph]

Wow, you people are so nice! Aww! *Runs over and cuddles you all*

I will do an introduction on me shortly in the... erm Introduction section and do things properly.

It is so nice to see a place where people are so welcoming. The thing is also I have never had any friends who define themselfs as straight because I find it confusing that someone can not have feelings for the same sex, but if I am wanting to be accepted then I suppose I will simply have to adapt.

I am willing to do that. :-) Thank you for this unusally welcoming start to my life here! I am TRYING to get to the chat room, OMFG I would murder to be a moderator in their, because I have used flashchat all my life as an Administrator. Do they generally let users be a moderator once they have proven commitment to the site? And is it going to be working soon?

Erm and for the record I dont usually do off topic which I have done here, hehe.

Once again, thanks really you are such nice people, please PM me sometime.

Love Joseph - New member x

(P.S: Sorry for any spelling mistakes, i'v just woken up because I did lots of early morning work! Look out for my intro soon)

[God.]

I'm glad you like this site, generally people are very open. If anyone says anything that offends you, let the staff know, and they'll be dealt with.

The chat normally works, but the site is under maintenance atm, so some things have been disabled. This should be back up soon.

We're always on the lookout for staff, particularly making use of their skills. The worst thing you can do is ask though, I'll keep my eye on you, and if you show potential, i'll promote you myself to chat mod. :)

[*Jess*]

Wow, you people are so nice! Aww! *Runs over and cuddles you all*

I will do an introduction on me shortly in the... erm Introduction section and do things properly.

It is so nice to see a place where people are so welcoming. The thing is also I have never had any friends who define themselfs as straight because I find it confusing that someone can not have feelings for the same sex, but if I am wanting to be accepted then I suppose I will simply have to adapt.

I am willing to do that. :-) Thank you for this unusally welcoming start to my life here! I am TRYING to get to the chat room, OMFG I would murder to be a moderator in their, because I have used flashchat all my life as an Administrator. Do they generally let users be a moderator once they have proven commitment to the site? And is it going to be working soon?

Erm and for the record I dont usually do off topic which I have done here, hehe.

Once again, thanks really you are such nice people, please PM me sometime.

Love Joseph - New member x

(P.S: Sorry for

Aww I'm glad you feel that way now :). Don't worry about any prejudice. We're generally quite welcoming and open minded, the view that you are any different to anyone else isn't a commonly shared view here. You do get some people's opinions on here you wouldn't agree with though and that can be quite offensive but thats life I guess and its unfortunate.

If you ever have any problems, report it or pm one of the moderators/admins. If someone flames you about ANYTHING at all they'll sort it out. Nobody wants that to happen to anybody so it will all be sorted.

Also we're having problems with the chat at the moment I think. Nobody can get into it. And generally speaking moderaters are chosen kindof out of the ones who prove they are like good at something or trustworthy or something like that. :)

PM any of us if you ever want to talk, most of us are quite friendly and would love to talk :)


Anyway, sorry about going off topic everyone. :D

[Joseph]

Hehe, i'll try and get into that chat room every few hours then! Ahh! You dont know how much I love that chat system. I is SOOOO cheesy and novety and has this REALY cute delay!!! It bought a tear to my eye when I had to shut my site (that was sponcered by yahoo) because my sponcer got shut down!

Ahh! Anyway as I really said before I will take this opportunity to understand this is a community and will treat it as such apposed to getting angry, which I admit I did, thanks for your understanding! I love you God!

Hehe! Joseph - New Member xXx

[God.]

Lol, damn right you love me, I'm amazing, :p

[Nirvana_rox]

Hehe, i'll try and get into that chat room every few hours then! Ahh! You dont know how much I love that chat system. I is SOOOO cheesy and novety and has this REALY cute delay!!! It bought a tear to my eye when I had to shut my site (that was sponcered by yahoo) because my sponcer got shut down!

Ahh! Anyway as I really said before I will take this opportunity to understand this is a community and will treat it as such apposed to getting angry, which I admit I did, thanks for your understanding! I love you God!

Hehe! Joseph - New Member xXx

It is cheesy indeed.
Awwh.
That's a shame.
Well you got a new toy to play with soon:D
It's holy

[Leon]

That is such crap. That thread parodies this one to prove the point, pulling it out of context for your argument is a cheap trick.Nintendus' angry side finally emerges, and I wasn't aware of that fact anyway. Just thought I'd mention it existed.

Anyway Joseph don't think I have anything against you because I don't, I don't judge anyone by their sexuality or anything silly like that anyway.

[fraggled]

We judge people on IQ level around here.

[Nirvana_rox]

And that's the end of that chapter:D

[PrettyVacant]

i have no problem with anyone of an alternative sexually
i treat them no different from anybody else - they're still a person.
i personally don't see a difference anyway.

i have friends from all different sexual orientation
it's not a case of 'i don't mind them' or 'i like them'
it's just a *shrugs* i treat everybody the same...

apart from:
bi-fashionables (well thats my word for them)
they kind who are bi because they think it's cool and brag about how 'open minded' they are because they get it on with both sexes. attention seeking you say?
OR alternatively girls who kiss girls to get guys - simple as

though i obviously know there are people out there who are bi-sexual for all the right reasons and don't fit in the above catagories - i'm not calling you guys fakes
so chill :)

[VraiCanon]

I am a fag hag.

[Hugga-Bear]

wow what a thread, hey, guess who started it? me :P i ist cool :)

Yeah...can't remember the admirer match : /.

Anyway, I'm indifferent, although I've always wanted a gay best friend :)

[Stephanie]

hhahah I found this a while back on the internet and thought it'd be relevant to post on this thread:

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-Australian

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Australians always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in Australia.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.




I loved it! As soon as I read it, I printed like 20 copies of it and stuck it all around my Catholic All Girls school. I got questioned by so many teachers about it because I was the only one they could think of who would do such a thing. I'm not gay or anything (though I think I may be bi but that will forever be a long confusing road it seems) but I constantly stand up and advocate for gay rights at school and will argue till the bitter end if a teacher/student gives me passages from The Bible for reasons to frown upon them.

[God.]

Lol, good on you. (y)

[Kate]

I think I may be bi but that will forever be a long confusing road it seems) but I constantly stand up and advocate for gay rights at school and will argue till the bitter end if a teacher/student gives me passages from The Bible for reasons to frown upon them.


Haha, woot xD
Gah, I go to a Christian school, and there's one lad who's reason against homosexuals is that "It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve".
Some people will never change I guess. It's the parent's and school's responsibility to teach respect for and equality of the different sexual preferences.

[VraiCanon]

When I argue against homophobia, it means I'm gay. Apparently.

[Kate]

When I argue against homophobia, it means I'm gay. Apparently.

Haha, same. I hate this society in which you can't even stand up against homophobia, and people use "You're a fag/'lezza" as an insult. Stupid.

[Buttons93]

Haha, same. I hate this society in which you can't even stand up against homophobia, and people use "You're a fag/'lezza" as an insult. Stupid.

Yeps .. I had a go at a guy sat infront of me, 'insulting' his mate by calling him gay.. It really got to me.

[Nirvana_rox]

Urrrrgh
why do people have a problem with homosexuality
-_-
its fucking annoying
I can't even hug my girlfriend without getting people asking questions and comments
-_-
and when we were kissing the other day there was a fucking crowd emerging
and earlier this day in fact
makes me so mad i just want to punch the life out of them and grrrr :angered:

So yeah
I love my gay and lesbian friends :)
And yeah i am gay :)

[Sneaky]

I am gay. My friends don't care, I don't think anyone in this town gives a crap. My dad was discussing the Lance Bass thing. "Yeah, so this guy comes out in the magazine. "I'm GAY!" "...so?"

[Leon]

I saw an advertising billboard the other day that said

'Some people are gay, get over it'

Think it was to do with bullying.

EDIT: this is indeed it:

http://ancientboy.com/blogifotod/2007_12/2007-12-stonewall-campaign.jpg

[Richiecroft]

Im gay, this means i like men... Not that i go on a rampage every thursday night does it! Im me, and funny.. i aint changing for no-one, if people dont like me, then thats their problem not mine! The amount of abuse we get for not being "normal" or indifferent, is in the hands ot thier parents not explaining to them that theres alsorts of people out this world, so i agree 100% with that pic above me ^^

GET OVER IT!!!

[Leon]

I think that was the point of the advert =/

[nyx]

This as a thread, just shouldn't exist really.

[God.]

Couldn't agree more. I'm not Bi, but I wouldn't say I'm tolerant either.

The reason I say that, is that I don't believe there is a need for the question to be asked in the first place - "Are you tolerant of Bi/Homosexuals?" to me is asking me "Are you tolerant of the air?" - there's just no need for it.

Until we realise thats its not a case of us being tolerant of others, but more about us truly recognising that we're all the same, and united by our differences, then conversations like this will always ensue.Wise words from a slightly younger me.

[tf_arl_90]

I don't think I've ever had a conversation about homosexuality with my friends. Because there's no need to discuss it, we just accept that it's just the way some people are, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. The reason these conversations still exist is because there is still a huge percentage of people who have a problem with homosexuality as well as people who are tolerant of it.

You're right - there shouldn't be a need to discuss it. People should just show some respect for others. But they don't. So there are discussions about why people don't, particularly on online message boards where people are encouraged to share their opinions.

[Innamorata]

I wish it was a public poll.

[trooperwhiteguy]

Honestly, my view on gay and lesbians are that they deserve nondiscrimination. Simply, it is somewhat like the 1950s except we do not have discrimination in the present for those of different color. Truly, I believe gay/lesbians should have rights. I don't mind them because there are lesbians next door to my house and they can be really nice.

[VraiCanon]

I don't really think it matters.
What pisses me off is when people feel the need to proclaim their homosexuality.
Who cares? I don't go round shouting about the fact I'm straight.

[Hugga-Bear]

I do :D
I think its weird that racism and such is still around though, I know you probably dont belive me but I am really unprejudiced, I mean I dont give a toss if someones black, white or green, or if they like trees in their bed whatever! But I dont get why people are prejudiced, can anyone explain? Is it fear? what?

[sabrina]

people are prejudiced because they don't agree with one another?
lol . .
haha . ..
I personally think that gays, lesbians, shouldn't be indiscriminated. they are humans, like everyone after all.

[eukaryote]

I don't care if people are gay or not. As long as they don't try to get involved with me in that way, I don't think about it.

[Shiro Yuri]

It's not a problem to me. I have many friends who are homosexual, and I find them, for the most part, much more entertaining than straight people.

[GemmaJamPot]

I personally dont have a problem with them... they are just people, as the rest of us are.
I dont like it when guys are really homophobic about homosexual males, but are like obsessed with lesbians... Fair enough it arouses them, but how can they claim to be homophobic when homophobic is when you discriminate lesbians as well as gays. If you know what I mean?
It does kinda annoy me when people try too hard to fit into stereotypes because they think they should conform, however, whos to say that sometimes it isnt just their natural personality?
Also, like it has been previously said, when people move away from them... its not a disease, you cannot catch homosexuality, you are either gay or not!
Also, I agree with the part about the emo/scene (or whatever they claim to be these days) population suddenly all deciding they are bisexual... its like a craze or accessory to them. Fair enough, we cant say that they are pretending, because we dont know how they feel.. but it cant really be a coincidence that everyone in their friendship groups are all claiming to be bi, can it? Or maybe they are just baseing their claims upon a few homosexual kisses or something? But there are plenty of straight people out there who have kissed a member of the same sex, and are not bisexual...
Eh I dunno... Thats enough from me methinks.
X

[Thesimpleone.]

there is nothing wrong with lgbt ppl.
but i do agree that all these ppl who say they r bi nowadays, about 50 % are just saying that cause they have kissed somebody of the same sex, get over yourselves.
im bi and you bitches make people like me seem bad.
and for ppl that think being bi is "greedy" again, get over yourselves.
you should fall in love with the person, not the gender.

[TheMan]

I'm okay with bi chicks.
gay guys..I know a couple of them cuz they hang with chicks I know..I dont mind them, as long as...you know.

[Torn Apart]

I personally dont have a problem with them... they are just people, as the rest of us are.
I dont like it when guys are really homophobic about homosexual males, but are like obsessed with lesbians... Fair enough it arouses them, but how can they claim to be homophobic when homophobic is when you discriminate lesbians as well as gays. If you know what I mean?
It does kinda annoy me when people try too hard to fit into stereotypes because they think they should conform, however, whos to say that sometimes it isnt just their natural personality?


Both awsome points! Its a huge turn off for me if a guy acts so flamboyant about his sexuality, I just wanna yell at them "tone it down!".

And secondly I dont even understand why straight guys find lesbians so hot? It makes no sense to me.

[Shane]

I'm okay with bi chicks.
gay guys..I know a couple of them cuz they hang with chicks I know..I dont mind them, as long as...you know.
As long as they actually block the cock?

[tf_arl_90]

And secondly I dont even understand why straight guys find lesbians so hot? It makes no sense to me.

I was actually just thinking about this the other day. I guess one girl = hot, two girls = hotter?
Same doesn't seem to hold true for guys though. I'm not attracted to two guys together, and I don't think most girls are either. *shrug*

[GemmaJamPot]

I'm not attracted to two guys together, and I don't think most girls are either. *shrug*

Some emo girl I know has a pic of 2 guys kissing on her bebo page.. so maybe some girls do find it hot? I dunno. I dont have an issue with guys getting it on, but it isnt a turn on.


Both awsome points! Its a huge turn off for me if a guy acts so flamboyant about his sexuality, I just wanna yell at them "tone it down!".

And secondly I dont even understand why straight guys find lesbians so hot? It makes no sense to me.

Absolutly agreed! Some, I think, do it because they want to provoke a reaction, and know they will gain attention from acting like that.

And yeah... why do guys find lesbians so hot? Lesbians like girls, and therefore have no interest in your cock whatsoever...

X

[*Jess*]

I do understand why gay men are a little more, erm, girly than other men sometimes. It's probably natural. When they announce it though, there's no need for it. I don't announce I'm straight all the time.

The same goes for lesbian couples. There are some in my college, all over each other continuously as though they're trying to prove something. It's fine for them to be affectionate, but it's sort of full on. Then when people look at them, they literally shout "Yes we're gay, get over it". There's no point in it. They have nothing to prove and I think it's gross and inconsiderate when people have full on make-out sessions in front of others anyway. They did it to me when I was behind them in the canteen once, I was not looking for them because of their sexuality, but their lack of social decorum. No watching people feel each others arse and shove their tongues down each others throats for me thanks. It's like they bring on any prejudice themselves at times.

[GemmaJamPot]

I dont understand why they hafta act on their sexuality tho.. its like them being someone else coz they feel they have to.

I know what you mean... You dont wana see any couple all over each other all the time like that... it has nothing to do with their sexuality. But yeah, they make it about their sexuality themselves, by announcing it everytime someone looks at them.

X

[ficti0n]

Cock blocking is very importany when talking to a gay man. Very important.

[Shiro Yuri]

Cock blocking is very importany when talking to a gay man. Very important.
Drastic idiotic statement. Stereotypical, and sloppy.

[ficti0n]

It was a play on what shane had said.

[jennyeatworld]

Some gay guys that I know are complete pricks, but that is just personality wise. I know a good couple handfulls of gays and some of them are the greatest people I have ever known. In general, I have no problem with them. I actually know a girl that has a thing for me and she often hits on me and it doesn't even bother me. I'm straight, she's lesbian. That's really the only difference between us, and I don't make a huge thing out of it because you can't help who you like/love.

[Thesimpleone.]

Lol
"Backs against the walls theres a gay in the room"
haha
i think its funny when (especially guys) say they can tolerate gays if they dont come on to them .
Do all guys think they are like gods gift to well, guys ? Lol
Just cause they're gay doesnt make them all sexual predators lol.
A - they know where the line is between gay n straight
B - they probably wont find you attractive ;)
xxx

[KatieMay-]

I have absolutly no problem with gays, bis, lesbians, whatever.
I myself am straight, but who knows, 16 is too early to tell and until anyone has a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex they will never know whether they are gay.
I have kissed girls and stuff but in no way would I count myself as bi because of that (it's usually a drunken thing, when you get the the stage of feeling all 'ohh, i love youuuu!') LOL :)

[Thesimpleone.]

haha yeah before i kind came out i had loads of drunkern "your my best mate" snogs.
but never classed myself as bi.
then hey, Xes happened , this was the situation ...
*guy says* ---*girl* says its a pity your straight cus she thinks yr stunnin
I say --------- Sorry :$

then later on when they are leaving.
*girl says* ----see you later
I say----------enjoy the rest of your night
Kiss on cheek, look away
proper kiss
all of us go back to *Guys*'s
Me and *Girl* get a bit friendly and end up sleeping together.

Kinda from then on i realised that Im not straight, and never was.
I pretty much prefer girls a lot, so guys must think yourself lucky if i show you attention at all.x

[Thesimpleone.]

I changed names for private reasons lol.
does it make any sense at all ?
x

[KatieMay-]

Yeah, makes sense.
& that's cool, atleast you completely know 'who you are' now and what you like.
At the moment, I can't say I am attracted to girls, but I'm only 16 and still have a lot of emotional developing to do, so who knows where it will all lead. :)

[Thesimpleone.]

Girls are better in bed, Trust.
(no offense to guys. just try harder. btw, the clitoris isnt where you think it is)

[KatieMay-]

Girls are better in bed, Trust.
(no offense to guys. just try harder. btw, the clitoris isnt where you think it is)

LOL :)
Made my day :P

[Rickeo]

My opinion on this is strange people are probably going to hate me but oh well.

Am a Christian but my views would be the same if I wasn't a Christian, I have a problem with gay people because it is un-natural the laws of nature did not design us so we would sleep with the same gender.

However I don't hate gays nor do I think God hates gays the Bible says homosexuality is a sin but so is lieing and all sins are equal to God so am just as bad as a gay person but God hates no one those people from godhatesfags.com really get under my skin and make me mad.

I have gay friends I don't mind them they are only human but I wont discuss there sexual life or what they do in the bedroom with them it's there private business nor will I talk to them about a guy/gal they fancy.

I feel as a Christian it is not my job to judge someone so I don't judge but it is my job to uphold Christian morals and I think homosexuality is wrong.

But then again so is telling a lie, stealing, being disrespectful to your parents etc so yea am not one to talk.

But in short I have no issues with gay people bi people lesbians etc etc I have a problem with homosexuality :)

Rick

[Thesimpleone.]

I understand how your religion points you away from fondness of lgbt people. and i dont hate you for tht, even though i fall into that category.
I think all people arewithin their rights to any belieffs tey have .
as long as you dont walk round saying kill all gays im fine with it hehe
(sorry about bad spelling, slightly inebriateed :/)

[Rickeo]

Nah if I had the right to kill a gay person then they would have the right to kill me I would hate to be a hypocrite.

And even if I could kill gay people I wouldn't want to like I said don't hate gays it's homosexuality I dislike :)

Rick

[Thesimpleone.]

I understand that because of you religion :)
And i respect your views.
I disagree with them but can fully understand why you would believe that :) X

[GemmaJamPot]

But in short I have no issues with gay people bi people lesbians etc etc I have a problem with homosexuality

So... does this mean that you havnt a problem with the individual people, just their sin?

X

[Azzer]

I Love This Argument, Because Of The Trauma Surrounding It.

On The One Hand Religion Says That Homosexuality Is Wrong, And Incorrect, Whereas Morally A Lot Of People Have No Problem With It.

I Say That If Your Happy Being Gay Then Let It Be That Way, I Think You Should Be Allowed To Be. I'm A Very, Flamboyant Lad, But Definitely Not Gay, I Like To StandOut But I Think That Confuses People Hence Why A Lot Think I'm Gay. It Makes Me Laugh A Lot Of The Time, And I Get On With It, Because I'm Happy As Me, And I Don't See Anything Wrong With That.

I Can Understand Both Sides Of The Argument, So I Guess I'm Kinda The Guy Who Says Go For It!! :p

[-Luke-]

I looked into homosexuality on wiki (Unreliable, i know, but nevertheless, its has a basis in fact.)
And i found some physiological differences between homosexual and hetrosexual people thats interesting.

Recent studies have found notable differences between the physiology of gay people and non-gay people. There is evidence that:


The average size of the INAH-3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INAH_3) in the brains of gay men is approximately the same size as INAH 3 in women, which is significantly smaller, and the cells more densely packed, than in heterosexual men's brains.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-levay-2)
The suprachiasmatic nucleus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprachiasmatic_nucleus) was found by Swaab and Hopffman to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[140] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-139) the suprachiasmatic nucleus is also known to be larger in men than in women.[141] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-140)
The anterior commissure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_commissure) is larger in women than men and was reported to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[142] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-141) but a subsequent study found no such difference.[143] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-142)
Gay men report, on an average, slightly longer and thicker penises than non-gay men.[144] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-143)
Gay men's brains respond differently to fluoxetine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine), a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.[145] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-144)
The functioning of the inner ear and the central auditory system in lesbians and bisexual women are more like the functional properties found in men than in non-gay women (the researchers argued this finding was consistent with the prenatal hormonal theory of sexual orientation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation)).[146] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-mcf-145)
The startle response (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Startle_response) (eyeblink following a loud sound) is similarly masculinized in lesbians and bisexual women.[147] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-146)
Three regions of the brain (medial prefrontal cortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medial_prefrontal_cortex), left hippocampus (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Left_hippocampus&action=edit&redlink=1), and right amygdala (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Right_amygdala&action=edit&redlink=1)) are more active in gay men than non-gay men when exposed to sexually arousing material.[148] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-147)
Gay and non-gay people emit different armpit odors.[149] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-148)
Gay men are more likely to have a counter-clockwise hair whorl pattern.[150] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-149)
Gay and non-gay people's brains respond differently to two human sex pheromones (AND, found in male armpit secretions, and EST, found in female urine).[151] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-150)[152] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-151)[153] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-152)
Finger length ratios (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio) between the index and ring fingers may be different between non-gay and lesbian women.[154] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-153)[155] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-154)[146] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-mcf-145)[156] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-155)[157] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-156)[158] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-157)


Cognitive differences in gay men and lesbians

Recent studies suggest the presence of subtle differences in the way gay people and non-gay people process certain kinds of information. Researchers have found that:


Gay men and lesbians are significantly more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness_and_sexual_orientation) than are non-gay men and women;[159] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-158)[160] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-159)[161] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-160) Simon LeVay argues that because "[h]and preference is observable before birth[162] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-161)... [t]he observation of increased non-right-handness in gay people is therefore consistent with the idea that sexual orientation is influenced by prenatal processes," perhaps heredity.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-levay-2)
Gay men[163] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-162) and lesbians are more verbally fluent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluency) than heterosexuals of the same sex[164] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-163)[165] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-164)[166] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-165) (but two studies did not find this result).[167] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-166)[168] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-167)
Gay men may receive higher scores than non-gay men on tests of object location memory (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Object_location_memory&action=edit&redlink=1) (no difference was found between lesbians and non-gay women).[169] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#cite_note-168)

So homosexuality is produced by genetic, hormonal and social factors, so the choice on whether to follow through and accept who you are is there.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#Prejudice_against_gay_and_lesbian_pe ople

[AnnaRose_18]

After me and bob had a random thing with the admirer match, i wondered. Is anyone here actually gay?
I have no problem with them but i was wondering if people do have a problem and if so why? (and if not, any reason?)
this also applies to the ladies with lesbianiness

I am not gay, but I have absolutely no problems with the gay community. I have friends who are gay and I love them to death. They are choosing to love in their own way and I respect that. I have grown up in a very conservative Christian home, and am a Christian myself, but I am very open minded when it comes to homosexuality.

[Tami]

i thought i was gay for a while
im still not sure
im not sure if i ever will be
i am more in to men at the moment
anyway
5 of my best mates (all guys) have gay tenancies
i say this coz 3 are gay
and to haven't decided yet they swap and change between being bi and gay

[Rickeo]

So... does this mean that you havnt a problem with the individual people, just their sin?

X

Pretty much I have gay friends, but tbh I am a sinner as well so I can't judge anyone can I lol :)

So I think to sum it up people can do what they like it's there choice nothing to do with me being gay doesn't define someone or there personality so it's wrong for me to judge I just don't like the thought of homosexuality if that makes sense :\

[GemmaJamPot]

Ahh okay :) yeah that makes sense. Thanks for answering my question.
X

[-Luke-]

I have no problem with homosexual people really. I can rely on my gay friends to decide what looks good on me, lol. And my lesbian friends give me a great insight into the mysteries of the female mind.... (Still learning, lol)
:)

[Edophe]

I'm going to say I'm bi, but as a teenager, you know, who actually knows. I've had both hetro and homosexual relationships lol.. I'm pretty open minded. My best friend is a christian and feels the same way, love the sinner; hate the sin. But, imho, I think that's a bit of bollocks. If you look at it, really. God created us all, right? Why would he create homosexuality if it is a sin against him? And, okay, so we can say that it was the devil that enforced homosexuality on the human race but I can't buy that. It really saddens me to know that there are people out there who have closed their minds to everything barre what the bible says, forgetting, perhaps, that the Bible only started out as the Word Of God, and since then has been translated (badly, might I add) into many different languages by men who are smited by the devil?

Ahh, sorry. I think I've been needing to get that one off my chest for a long time. Don't mean to offend, just wanted to point out a different view :)

[Eric]

i clearly do not see why straight males are so afraid of us homosexuals.
Maybe it's something to do with them not being confident about their sexual orientation them selves?
i mean some guys are cool with it
but others , they just get so discusted by us. when we are the same regular people,
except we have different preferences.
it just confuses me

[Edophe]

It's society, I think. There has always been a thing against homosexuality - take Leviticus 18:22: You should not lie with another man as you lie with a woman, that is disgusting. It always has been that way and probably always will be. People are cruel and, you know, all we can do is be confused...

[rosie1]

im not gay
vein tho - so that could make me gay. mehhhh

[-Luke-]

I wish this world was more accepting sometimes :(

[Arielle]

I like gay people. My best friend in the world is a lesbian, and we have such a laugh together, xD I'm kinda confused about my own feelings but mehhhhhhh. I don't see anything wrong with being gay, it's just other people who put negative stigma on it.

[-Luke-]

Eric, gay men rock, lol.
Well, in my experience, they've helped me out a few times :)
And i'm happy to go to the gay pub with them in town

[rosie1]

People are cruel
people are
you just dont worry about them
be happy with yourself and you will be fine

[Jimbob]

i think its funny when (especially guys) say they can tolerate gays if they dont come on to them .
Do all guys think they are like gods gift to well, guys ? Lol
Just cause they're gay doesnt make them all sexual predators lol.
A - they know where the line is between gay n straight
B - they probably wont find you attractive ;)

A lot of gay guys see pulling the straight lad as more of a challenge though and you know that :P

If gay men want straight men to respect their sexuality, then they should try and do the same in return.