Illegal Immigrants

[EssixOwl]

What's everybody's views on Illegal Immigrants? Personally I think it's got to the stage where we should just say 'fuck it' & transfer them out of the country. This may sound radical, but housing a illegal immigrant for the night costs £2,000 when they come into this country now multiple by the 500,000 that came into this country last year & that's a hell of alot of money. And the Govt doesn't help, I mean our rules on immigration are so loose it's a bloody joke. Once a application fails it takes 2yrs for there Visa app to be heard again & by then they've fucked off & started calling themselves Steve Jones. It's a joke & it ain't funny anymore....get your arse into gear Labour!

[fcuk4forest]

Send Them Back

EDIT: Why have a dig at Labour? Probably the greatest government we've had in ages.

[xxrachxx]

i agree, theres supposed to be thousand and thousand of immigrants that havent been traced in Yorkshire it hink it was, im sure it was on the front of the star, its stupid

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

I think half of the population in my town are illegal immigrants. We have more mexicans here...it's crazy. Alot of them jump the fence then scramble up to Colorado because no one bothers to check on them. I'm not complaining, though. They all work and not many are living off social security...yeah...a few are, but meh. They do all the dirty jobs for cheap.

[D3c3p7ioN]

I dont really give a shit about them.

[fcuk4forest]

I think half of the population in my town are illegal immigrants. We have more mexicans here...it's crazy. Alot of them jump the fence then scramble up to Colorado because no one bothers to check on them. I'm not complaining, though. They all work and not many are living off social security...yeah...a few are, but meh. They do all the dirty jobs for cheap.

Illegal immigrants working?!?!

Fucking hell, it's loads different here. They get paid shit loads for NOT working. Plus get money for food, clothing etc etc.

It's bollocks. People who are unemployed and are legally a British Citizen only get something like £42.

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

They all work under the table. People hire them because they're so cheap...it sounds like a production line..haha...but yeah. They all work.

I don't really like alot of them as people, but they're hard workers.

[Patriot1776]

I'm not sure where I stand on that issue. Sure some of them may have had a terrible life where they came from and they really shouldn't expect to find it much better over here. At least they probably had SOMETHING back there while here they most likely have to start over.

Then again they are willing to work hard and I have heard stories of illegal immigrants at least making a halfway decent life.

[Bob!]

Yeah cause o all the benefits they get over here, even more than our own homeless and needy.

The illeagal ones should be sent back tbh, im sure theyd be less forgiving if we broke the law in their countries.

Hell goverment departments like the one im workin at havent even got good computer systems, the whole lot was down today. Which means the staff cant work efficiently cause the governments so tight, probs cause theyre spendin too much money elsewhere lol.

[Entice]

But.....its easy to say "send them back"
But would you really send a family back?
I mean if they were running from war?
Or would that make them a refugee then?
Nvm me.

[kattylover]

I can't say about them. But lets think, why would they want to come to another country? Because they want to have a better life in another country. Maybe in their own country, they do not have much opportunities to have a good life. And they do it illegally, cause they cannot afford air tickets. So I can't say all of them are bad.

[angelic-a]

illegal immigrants: send back
immigrants: stay, as long as they earn a living for themselves (work, pay tax, etc etc) and dont sit on their backsides running on governments money.

[*fender.chiq*]

I think it's really stupid how the government don't do anything about illegal immigrants. The money to keep them here could be used for more useful things for people in the country or whatever, and it's also coming from our working citizens tax. We're paying to keep them here, when it's illegal in the damn first place. They might be fleeing 'bad' home life or whatever, but they're here illegally, and I'm sure if we bombarded their country they'd have something to say about it - and their government wouldn't be so damn leniant on us either. They'd take action, not leave us to spread through the country, claiming benefits and living the life of luxuary.

If they work for their living, then so be it, they're earning their right to stay here, but if they're just lounging around all day, buying fancy clothes, living a life of free housing and money.. Then why the hell should we work? They're not legal British citizens, so why should we go to work and earn money to buy nice clothes and houses and cars? It's rediculous.

[Patriot1776]

But.....its easy to say "send them back"
But would you really send a family back?
I mean if they were running from war?
Or would that make them a refugee then?
Nvm me.

Often times that would make them a refugee,but they are usually transported by the Red Cross or something like that.

Sometimes thoguh a country won't take them in for fear of involvment in the war (Ex:Cambodia)

[EssixOwl]

Send Them Back

EDIT: Why have a dig at Labour? Probably the greatest government we've had in ages.

Because I'm a Conservative at heart & some of Labour's policies are bulls**t.


I can't say about them. But lets think, why would they want to come to another country? Because they want to have a better life in another country. Maybe in their own country, they do not have much opportunities to have a good life. And they do it illegally, cause they cannot afford air tickets. So I can't say all of them are bad.

And the reason why there's no 'oppurtunites' in all these countries/communities? Because all of the citizens are jumping ship & getting nice retirement packets here & in other European countries. We should do a France & take a hard line approach with them. Shut down the 'holding' centre's & just send them back to where they came from.

@ D3c3p7ioN: You will when your paying taxes & you want your money going to worthwhile projects such as the NHS not Adesjehakja who got here in the back of a lorry.

[danster73]

essex owl i think your opinion is very strong towards this particular topic, but as its your opinion i cant argue it. what i can say is this, immagrants escape from there country and try and seek a better life, some countries such as England offer a great chance for them to restart. I personally think that if there living in such bad conditions then its everyones duty to help them. No one should live in horrid conditions where they cant even leave there own country. what does everyone else thing, thats my opinion!

[CraigYohn]

It doesnt make a difference to me, but if they start coming through my door thats when we need to do something about it,

think about it thought, they're coming here for a better way of life rather than a war torn country or a country thats in poverty, an they cant do a damn thing about it.


think logically, to be quite fucking honest, before mouthing off.

[Entice]

Ok are we talking about Illegal Immigrants or Refugees?

[Jessicar]

Well, its meant to be illegal immigrants, hehe.
I think its ok when they come into the country just for salvation, but when they come into the country just because they want to live in the country, its not good. And its not good for any type of immigrant if they just come into the country, whether its for salvation or any other reason, and our tax goes on keeping them alive. Like everyone else, they should work to get a living. If they dont speak our language, they should do something about that. Theres not much point in coming here and not understanding a fecking word. And if they just cant work coz of disabilities, then that acceptable. But if they just cant be arsed doing something, and they can live off our money anyway. Do-gooders think that them having a bad life before they came into this country is an acceptable excuse not to work. But if you can work, you should work. Living off the countries hard earned money is NOT acceptable. We arent just here to keep them alive. We dont work to keep them in fancy clothes and fancy houses and eating fancy foods and sitting on their arses all day, i mean, we cant afford to do that.
People who do nothing with their lives seem to get more than people who do at times. And they get all the sympathy of everyone else. They come into this country, but arent meant to. So if they choose to break our laws, then they should look after themselves.

[Pearson]

Send 'em Back!!!!!! getting all our taxes, sitting on there arse doing nowt not even bothering to learn english, they disgust me.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Awfully silly, do you know for a fact that all they do is sit around? I know there are a great many illegal immigrants here where I am living, and also a great deal of legal's, mostly Polish, and the majority of them work, here you are more likely to see locals sat on the streets begging then going to the dole office than anyone else. It may usually only be a crappy job such as selling the "Big Issue" or something like that for the illegal immigrants but at least they are earning. I think you're making judgements on certain things you more often than not hear and not see. And in all honesty, they take the jobs most of us would never take because we are so much "above" that type of labour, they clean the streets, or work in clean bathrooms in McDonalds, can any of you honestly say that you would ever apply for a job like that? I know I wouldn't. If I had to I would take a job such as that, but I certainly wouldn't want it. And in this day and age, I probably never will have to take it, and most of you will never either.
In relation to them learning english, I think they make a damn good effort, considering some of them will come from countries where english is not their mother tongue, and where they probably already learnt one if not two other languages, because that is the normal thing to do. Just because they do not keep up with slang is no reason to say they don't know english, in all honesty, I know plenty of people who's mother tongue is english, and who can barely spell it let alone speak it in a manner which one could understand.

[*Jess*]

In my opinion, if you want money. Work your ass off for it. Not settle for handouts.

[Haunting_Echoes]

It all depends on how much money you want, some immigrants work their asses off for very little money, and they don't complain about it. But it's a very subjective topic.

[Pearson]

You say there sellin Big Issues like its a good thing. There selling Big Issues cos there too thick to do owt else, I wunt consider ma sen for a job like that because I don't have to and a lot of illegal immirgrants do, do nowt and they dont learn english and they do sit on there arse all day soaking up the governments money, I have no problem with them that do make a living, that do learn english that do make the most of the time they spend in this beautiful of country of ours. I do with the others.

[*låð¥*]

I know there are a great many illegal immigrants here where I am living, and also a great deal of legal's, mostly Polish, and the majority of them work, here you are more likely to see locals sat on the streets begging then going to the dole office than anyone else. It may usually only be a crappy job such as selling the "Big Issue" or something like that for the illegal immigrants but at least they are earning. I think you're making judgements on certain things you more often than not hear and not see. And in all honesty, they take the jobs most of us would never take because we are so much "above" that type of labour, they clean the streets, or work in clean bathrooms in McDonalds, can any of you honestly say that you would ever apply for a job like that? I know I wouldn't. If I had to I would take a job such as that, but I certainly wouldn't want it. And in this day and age, I probably never will have to take it, and most of you will never either.


i totally agree with u there.

i was watching a channel 4 documentry about illegal immigrants and the fact was that most of them work their ass off for a living. For example, a farmer was interviewed and when asked why he only employed immigrants he said 'because they're punctual, they get the job done, they dont complain, basically everything the young british generation aren't.'' (we're talkin about those type of white racist british people, that sit on their ass and complain immigrants they are taking all the jobs'' He was also asked that did he think they were taking all the jobs, his reply was ''They got a nerve to say that, they sit on their backsides and expect a job handed on a plate for them, reality is they need to lower their ego.''

so really, they're not that bad....

[Haunting_Echoes]

They are exactly like us, but they just take the jobs that most of us would never even consider. I mean can anyone honestly say they would take a job like selling the Big Issue on a freezing cold december morning. Or sweeping the streets and cleaning up after the friday night booze up? You wouldn't, not unless you had no choice, but they do it, and do you see them whinging about pay? No, nowadays teens complain if they only get the national minimum wage because they can't afford the latest "nike" runners or whatever else they may "need".

[*Jess*]

Yeah i get what you mean there. They dont need to get big ass jobs. just earning money some way would be enough. At least they then can be bothered to do something instead of live off other people.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Exactly. But there is always someone that will assume that they all must be bad, and all leach off the state. It's sad really. Because they don't know what kind of persecution they may have been through, or what their lives are like.

[Pearson]

well haunting echoes im guessing ur a southerner, that documentry was made to make you think there all or8, dont belive everything you see on TV and for the last time selling big issues int a job, we wunt do that cos we dont have to do, selling big issues is for very poor or homeless people that need the income desperately.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Guess what you like, that does not make you right. I don't know what doccumentary that is I have not seen it. Do not tell me what I should or should not believe, it is my choice, I make my decisions based on what I know what I see. Selling the Big Issue is a job, it may be a very bad one, but it is. You don't have to do jobs such as cleaning streets because they do them for you. That's the only reason you don't have to do them. What do you think illegal immigrants are? Rich? I think not, they need the income just as much as a lower class British family does. The only reason you do not have to do such horrible jobs, is because they are done for you, and they are done to make a living, so that they can keep their family fed. And as a matter of fact, I happen to know that a lot of immigrants, illegal or not are very punctual, Polish people in particular, are always on time, and willing to work any hours they are given, as are many others, and do you know why? So they don't lose their job, because they can't afford to lose any job, that's why they work hard, that's why they turn up on time, because it's difficult enough to get a job, without having to try and get another one if they got fired.

[Boy_Wonder06]

i think you should stop being so harsh, to be honest i think its great that england lives in a society where we allow immagrants into, they can start a new life and i think everyoen should be given that chance. If you were in some of there shoes you'd see things so differently. Ok maybe they steel are jobs and our homes, but we live in a society where we can all get jobs and make a hoenst living. some of them didnt even have that chance!

[Haunting_Echoes]

They don't really steal our jobs, because there are more than enough jobs for everyone in England at this stage. But where they come from they don't have many oppertunities. If it was you in their shoes, you would want to move to England, and you would want to be able to get a job. England is the country of oppertunity for a lot of people.