Abortion: Life or Choice?

[IceBurn3000]

What are your views on a womans right to have an abortion? Is it her choice? Is she murdering her unborn child? Do you support the choice to have an abortion?

[NATAL!E]

Well, abortion is something I see many sides of and I don't really have one view point on.

I can understand that a woman may have not planned on conceiving a child, so therefore it is obviously her right as to whether she wants to keep it or not. It would be damn unfair on the child to be brought into the world with a mother who's going to regret having it for the rest of her life. Also, what about if she didn't have enough money, and didn't want to bring a child into the world which she could not provide for? It's dependant on the mother whether she chooses to have the baby or not.

Also, what if the child was conceived as an act of something awful, like rape? The woman should surely be able to decide what's best for her in that kind of situation? However, if the baby was conceived under other circumstances, such as parties and the likes, it's really a slightly different matter. That was carelessness, which shouldn't've happened. If the girl was able to have sex, she should have been cautious enough to use protection. Moreover, if it happens more than once, it's just down to carelessness aswell. People should take responsibility for their actions, more so if they cannot cope with the outcomes.

Abortion is a reasonably dangerous procedure, so it should really be a last resort with a lot of careful consideration. And not just as an escape route every time the girl gets pregnant due to careless attitudes. If so, then she should take time to think carefully about her actions.

It's also understandable why some people are against abortion though. Some religions believe it's wrong to take away a life by artificial means. It's also justified why some people believe this, because it's not the baby that's making the choice for itself, as it has no say in the matter of whether it lives or dies.

Although, at that stage of pregnancy, it's not really classed a person. The foetus is only a few cells large, which has the potential to develop, it's not actually a living, breathing human, as to speak. This is a bit like a chicken's egg, vegetarians do not believe it's wrong to eat the egg because it's not fertilised, so when the foetus is in the womb, it's not a baby or really anything more than a few living cells. However, please note, I am not encouraging the act of cannibalism.

But anyway, as I demonstrated, these are a few different reason why and why not abortion is acceptable. I personally believe it's upto the woman herself to decide. In that situation of choosing whether to keep a baby or not, I would have to consider the circumstances.

[Luke]

Choice.

"Not the Chuch, not the state, the woman must decide their fate".

[Mamfy]

I guess it depends on when you believe the baby to be regarded as a baby.

I mean, some people believe it is a living thing when it is conceived, which basically means it's murder to have an abortion in all circumstances because it is the murder of an innocent being. They believe that the baby has as much right to live as any other human being does.

Whereas, others believe it is not a baby til you can monitor it's heartbeat and all, or when it is physically born. I guess it all depends on when you believe the baby to be a living human being.

I believe the decision is up to the mum, in the end she will be carrying the baby around for 9 months, she will have to change her lifestyle for it, and all in all, she will be the one bringing it up if anything happens.

[Shane]

It is upto the Woman really. if they don't think they can give the baby a good life or its going to be messed up in some way like it won't be able to walk or will be mentally retarded then in a way its for the best. I know I would have rather been aborted then been born into a life of pain and/or misery.

[Brianna.]

I'm pro-choice.


There are alot of circumstances that could come up where abortion is the best option.

[Richiecroft]

It is upto the Woman really. if they don't think they can give the baby a good life or its going to be messed up in some way like it won't be able to walk or will be mentally retarded then in a way its for the best. I know I would have rather been aborted then been born into a life of pain and/or misery.

I can understand what your sayin Shane, but, imagine the parents say 5-10 years down the line why they had an abortion. Lets do a little role-playing, the "mother" can be called Joan and her friend can be called "Nikki" lol, here goes;

Nikki; "So joan, why did you have an abortion?"
Joan; "tbh , i really couldn't afford to have the child"

Just by these two sub-sentences we can clearly see that Joan just got rid of "her child" as she couldn't afford the costs. Now to me, thats b***s**t sorry but why have sex or whatever then say your not having the child!

[Mamfy]

Okay, if you're having sex you should realise the consequences and you should have to live with them.

If you are old enough (or think you are mature enough) to be having sex, then you need to think about what might happen.

[Brianna.]

What about rape?

[NATAL!E]

I can understand what your sayin Shane, but, imagine the parents say 5-10 years down the line why they had an abortion. Lets do a little role-playing, the "mother" can be called Joan and her friend can be called "Nikki" lol, here goes;

Nikki; "So joan, why did you have an abortion?"
Joan; "tbh , i really couldn't afford to have the child"

Just by these two sub-sentences we can clearly see that Joan just got rid of "her child" as she couldn't afford the costs. Now to me, thats b***s**t sorry but why have sex or whatever then say your not having the child!

I understand what you mean here, but would you rather be brought up in a happy home life, or a life where you had no real home, no food, no electricity, no clothes. Yeah? A kid costs a lot of money, even for just the basics.

I think I'd rather be brought up in my home life now, where I have enough of everything I need, rather than a form of poverty..

[Boy_Wonder06]

i think this is a really hard topic to discuss, i dont think there are any right or wrong answers. A women should have the right to chose if she wants to have the baby but i also think the baby has the right to live. Its so hard to chose. I mean i personally think it is a hard descision for anyone to make, and i really hope no one i knows gets put in that position.

[michelle]

i think abortion is murder, nad it shouldn't be done, yes people dont plan have a child but why have sex and then say oops im pregnant whe nits there responseability. on some cases i would agree with it like rape, but aprt from that i disagree with it
thats my point of view anyway

[Lindsay]

i'm pro-choice.
i think its a sad thing, but i also think the option should remain open.

[_bosnian_]

in the end it is up to the woman if she wants the baby or not. but i think it's murder. in some cases i can understand this decision, for example, if the baby is the result of rape or if the doctors diagnose that the embryo is invalid or just hasn't the possibility to live "normally".

[Artemis]

I think that abortion by itself is too broad. For one thing, I think that ultimately the woman has the choice, however I do think that after a certain period of growth, the abortion becomes murder.

A woman who is forced to have her child despises her child might abuse/ignore him. That child could lead a 'bad' life due to his/her family history.
Also rape victims. Some victims are young teens who cannot bear the reponsibilty of being a mother.

And yet, after the baby has grown enough to look familiar or "old enough" the pictures can get very gruesome.

I have to say I'm pro choice however I do think that this should be thought out more too.

[Patriot1776]

I would say for the most part no, but that is for religious reasons. However, there are a few grey areas.

Rape- Should a mother be forced to keep the child in this situation? I'm not 100% sure about what I would say here. Some would say yes, some would say no. SOme would say that the real issie is the total statistics of rapes each year.

Teenage Sex- Same thing. Some would say yes, others no. Some people would say that the real issue is teens having sex at sauch a young age.

Medical Reasons- Yes. There are situations where having a child would kill both the mother and the child. Is it really worth having both die just because you are worried about the child. No. In this case I would say yes, abortion is okay.

So even though I would say no in most situations, there are some grey areas. In some of these areas (Like rape and teenage sex) the question could be: Is abortion the REAL issue here?

Then there are some medical conditions where abortion will actually save lives.

Most of the time no, but some extreme situations yes

[NewAbortion]

Wow, old thread.

I see many people here have brought up the topic of rape, and that abortions should be allowed only under those circumstances. However, we must think about this. If it become a law that women could only get abortions if they'd been raped, several problems would arise:

1) Women who were raped but can't prove it; does that mean they can't get an abortion?
2) Women would falsely report rapes just so they could get an abortion, which would take up the time of the police department, preventing them from investigating actual crimes.
3) False reports and convictions would lead to a lot of innocent people serving 25-year sentences for having consensual sex.

To me, these problems seem to outweigh the benefits. Anyway, I'm pro-choice, regardless of the cirumstances. Yes, I thoroughly agree that if a woman has sex and gets pregnant, she should have to deal with it, because it was her fault, and I feel no pity for her whatsoever. However, we shouldn't punish the child for the mistakes of the mother; that seems just as cruel, if not crueler than an abortion.

~Maggot

[mandude]

I don't think abortion is wrong, because the foetus (NOT child, NOT baby) is not in a conscious state of living, therefore would have less of a bearing on it than if you were to kill an animal for food.

[Kaiser]

I'm for abortion in any situation whatsoever when the pregnant individual chooses it. A person has a fundamental right to their own body that doesn't end when they choose to have sex. Carrying a fetus causes significant harm, and until the fetus is capable of surviving outside of the womb, it is technically classified as a parasite. And an abortion is MANY times safer than going through with a pregnancy.

Having an abortion is taking responsibility for a situation, because having a child when you are not emotionally and/or financially ready for it is irresponsible. Don't fucking say that a woman has to "deal with the consequences," a child should NEVER be a punishment, and that aside, why on earth should she? She had sex, BIG DEAL. When America (other countries, too, but it's particularly strong here) gets over it's damnable "sex is evil, except only for women" attitude, the abortion debate will become a lot more one-sided. Why? Because the vast majority of "pro-lifers" don't care at all about the welfare of the fetus (and even less about it once its born), they just want to punish women for having sex. Well screw that.

There are simply too many reasons for abortion to be available on demand to give sway to the crappy, usually uninformed "reasoning" of most pro-lifers. For that matter, I haven't ever heard one good pro-life argument that didn't utterly fly in the face of reason and factual evidence.

[NewAbortion]

There are simply too many reasons for abortion to be available on demand to give sway to the crappy, usually uninformed "reasoning" of most pro-lifers. For that matter, I haven't ever heard one good pro-life argument that didn't utterly fly in the face of reason and factual evidence.

Agreed. As many times as I've debated over abortion, I've not heard one decent argument.

~Maggot